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August 15, 2017, 04:28:16 AM
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Seeing quite a few people in here posting things like I will mine Eth until the 1st NOV,  or I mine such and such coin because it is going to go up in value!

This is just silly.  Stop doing this now.  Esp on 1080ti mining ETH is just silly.  Always mine what is most profitable and buy the coins you want.  In the case of ETH you can probably get 30-40 more ETH this way.

Just saying...

Why buy when you can mine them?
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August 15, 2017, 04:32:54 AM
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I've been trying today to figure out how to mine coins outside of nvOC. It looks like I either have to compile something like ccminer on linux or just purchase an ssd or m.2 and install windows. I'm leaning towards using an ssd (64gb) since I know windows so much better than linux. Any suggestions out there?

I suggest you install Windows and use Awesome Miner.  It's a great management tool.
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August 15, 2017, 07:01:20 AM
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Seeing quite a few people in here posting things like I will mine Eth until the 1st NOV,  or I mine such and such coin because it is going to go up in value!

This is just silly.  Stop doing this now.  Esp on 1080ti mining ETH is just silly.  Always mine what is most profitable and buy the coins you want.  In the case of ETH you can probably get 30-40 more ETH this way.

Just saying...

Why buy when you can mine them?

I guess I will have to spoon feed you.  Here is real world numbers as of right this second.

Say one 1080ti can mine $2.74 worth of ETH per day.  It can also mine $4.15 per day on skein or maybe $4.50 on signatum.

So how much BTC does $2.74 buy you? 0.00065

How much BTC does $4.50 get you?  0.00107

How do you buy ETH? with BTC. So you get almost double the ETH mining the more profitable coin.  I mean I am pretty awesome at basic maths but pretty sure this should be REALLY REALLY obvious.  Also a bunch of pools and sites auto convert to BTC so you can avoid transactions and sale fees. 

You can't argue that ETH might go up because you are already buying more ETH.  If ETH goes upto the point its more profitable to mine then you could switch over.  You can leave that BTC as BTC because it is getting really good gains.  Or you can pick and choose a good time to convert it to ETH if ETH price comes down.
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August 15, 2017, 07:16:52 AM
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For the  1080 ti price 700 for new in the usa  is decent  and sales tax matters  so if the seller taxes you it can be 50 bucks or more.

good seller slightly high price good gpu.  This would be a little lower for me with paypal discount of 1%  so this is 713 no sales tax

http://www.provantage.com/msi-gtx1080tiaero11g~7MST92JQ.htm

this card below is sold by kiwi-tesl for 740 but no tax amazon fulfills it I get 5% off so this is 703

https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-352-bit-Graphics-ZT-P10810D-10P/dp/B06XXVVQYH/ref=sr_1_26?m=A8Y74GVD15XGJ&s=merchant-items&ie=UTF8&qid=1502758847&sr=1-26



this one below is 699 + 20 to ship no tax = 720

https://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=GV-108TB11

So I do not buy  any of the above  since they are all a little too high in price.




Phil why skunk at nicehash?  Do you prefer it over mining at zpool?  How is it working can you post your bat file?

I am currently mining at zpool.  Sometimes it is better than skien sometimes not.   Here is my bat file for others interested.

ccminer-x64 -a skunk -o stratum+tcp://skunk.mine.zpool.ca:8433 -u 1NAr74hNRJjyNrdqWyAJigxToAo3y5dPJV -p c=BTC --cpu-priority=3 -i 22

This is for 1080ti  -23 might be better hash.


not using your build  of ccminer

but i think this would work

ccminer-x64 -a skunk -o stratum+tcp://skunk.usa.nicehash.com:3622 -u 1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje -p x -i 22

I have found -i  22 or 23 work well
I use

  80 tdp
+ 100 core
+ 250 ram
75% fan

what do you get per card  46 mh?

https://new.nicehash.com/miner/1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje

https://new.nicehash.com/miner/16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr

skunk is killing zec at the moment

Is this just selling hash to nicehash? What calc you using to assess returns?  Didn't seem to work.  Eyes are sore Will try it again in the morning.  Stratum connection failure.

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August 15, 2017, 07:19:22 AM
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For the  1080 ti price 700 for new in the usa  is decent  and sales tax matters  so if the seller taxes you it can be 50 bucks or more.

good seller slightly high price good gpu.  This would be a little lower for me with paypal discount of 1%  so this is 713 no sales tax

http://www.provantage.com/msi-gtx1080tiaero11g~7MST92JQ.htm

this card below is sold by kiwi-tesl for 740 but no tax amazon fulfills it I get 5% off so this is 703

https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-352-bit-Graphics-ZT-P10810D-10P/dp/B06XXVVQYH/ref=sr_1_26?m=A8Y74GVD15XGJ&s=merchant-items&ie=UTF8&qid=1502758847&sr=1-26



this one below is 699 + 20 to ship no tax = 720

https://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=GV-108TB11

So I do not buy  any of the above  since they are all a little too high in price.




Phil why skunk at nicehash?  Do you prefer it over mining at zpool?  How is it working can you post your bat file?

I am currently mining at zpool.  Sometimes it is better than skien sometimes not.   Here is my bat file for others interested.

ccminer-x64 -a skunk -o stratum+tcp://skunk.mine.zpool.ca:8433 -u 1NAr74hNRJjyNrdqWyAJigxToAo3y5dPJV -p c=BTC --cpu-priority=3 -i 22

This is for 1080ti  -23 might be better hash.


not using your build  of ccminer

but i think this would work

ccminer-x64 -a skunk -o stratum+tcp://skunk.usa.nicehash.com:3622 -u 1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje -p x -i 22

I have found -i  22 or 23 work well
I use

  80 tdp
+ 100 core
+ 250 ram
75% fan

what do you get per card  46 mh?

https://new.nicehash.com/miner/1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje

https://new.nicehash.com/miner/16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr

skunk is killing zec at the moment

Is this just selling hash to nicehash? What calc you using to assess returns?  Didn't seem to work.  Eyes are sore Will try it again in the morning.  Stratum connection failure.



Port should be 3362 not 3622 is working just not really sure how to see the profits Cheesy
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August 15, 2017, 07:22:04 AM
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3 cards installed now 585 watts this is not really loud

140mm fan dropped temps a bit but temps were okay with out it


the monitor  is attached to one of the 1080ti's  to the riser to the usb 3 cable to the pcie 1x 16 slot


Those gpu power cables look familiar Phil. How do you like them? Have more 6+2 connectors on the way if you need any more. Also let me know if you need any riser power cables. Thanks, FM

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FM what do you riser power cables look like.
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August 15, 2017, 11:00:24 AM
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Tested three different miners mining LBC or LBRY coin.

All got around 510 Mh/s  which makes it not that profitable.  Is similar to Zec.  I tested the top three miners on zpool that others are using but I didnt try too hard with intensity settings or anything.

Another dead end or probably misinformation.
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August 15, 2017, 11:01:19 AM
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skunk is killing zec at the moment

It was awesome while it lasted. Still don't know what they were mining with skunk on nicehash.

party started quite awhile ago.... I think NH is late to capture the moment

only SIGT is the coin that I know of using skunk algo and currently only available at Cryptopia exchange

yea, it was great while it lasted...

SIGT is currently trading $0.0526..... dropped -30%.... this could be due to dev leaving news or evil NH just opened the floodgates

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August 15, 2017, 01:17:56 PM
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skunk is killing zec at the moment

It was awesome while it lasted. Still don't know what they were mining with skunk on nicehash.

party started quite awhile ago.... I think NH is late to capture the moment

only SIGT is the coin that I know of using skunk algo and currently only available at Cryptopia exchange

yea, it was great while it lasted...

SIGT is currently trading $0.0526..... dropped -30%.... this could be due to dev leaving news or evil NH just opened the floodgates

It bounced back a fraction.

https://new.nicehash.com/miner/1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje




I am now at 24 a day  I was over 60 a day yesterday and it dropped to  13 a day

Once people used any kind of auto switching soft ware  it all  switched to sit and killed it.

This is why I don't care for auto switching software.  It flattens prices on hot coins. look at the chart




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August 15, 2017, 02:11:33 PM
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I get 52mhs 80tdp on 1080ti, core +100 (about 1850mhz) with the new tpruvot ccminer that came out recently.
What intensity?
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August 15, 2017, 02:16:05 PM
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I get 52mhs 80tdp on 1080ti, core +100 (about 1850mhz) with the new tpruvot ccminer that came out recently.
What intensity?

-i 25
-i 26.5

depends on how many  1080 ti's  on the rig and the ram and the cpu

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August 15, 2017, 02:25:00 PM
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Seeing quite a few people in here posting things like I will mine Eth until the 1st NOV,  or I mine such and such coin because it is going to go up in value!

This is just silly.  Stop doing this now.  Esp on 1080ti mining ETH is just silly.  Always mine what is most profitable and buy the coins you want.  In the case of ETH you can probably get 30-40 more ETH this way.

Just saying...

Why buy when you can mine them?

I guess I will have to spoon feed you.  Here is real world numbers as of right this second.

Say one 1080ti can mine $2.74 worth of ETH per day.  It can also mine $4.15 per day on skein or maybe $4.50 on signatum.

So how much BTC does $2.74 buy you? 0.00065

How much BTC does $4.50 get you?  0.00107

How do you buy ETH? with BTC. So you get almost double the ETH mining the more profitable coin.  I mean I am pretty awesome at basic maths but pretty sure this should be REALLY REALLY obvious.  Also a bunch of pools and sites auto convert to BTC so you can avoid transactions and sale fees.  

You can't argue that ETH might go up because you are already buying more ETH.  If ETH goes upto the point its more profitable to mine then you could switch over.  You can leave that BTC as BTC because it is getting really good gains.  Or you can pick and choose a good time to convert it to ETH if ETH price comes down.

Yes, we are both equally gambling.

You can either mine the hot coin right now, and hope that it holds it's good conversion-to-BTC price so that you can get more BTC to buy ETH... losing conversion fees and transfer fees along the way, mind you.  Or you can just mine ETH directly and get what you put into the effort.

Sometimes it's better to mine the most consistent coin rather than the hot coin.


By the way, there's no need for the snarky "spoon feed" comment.
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August 15, 2017, 02:52:40 PM
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Seeing quite a few people in here posting things like I will mine Eth until the 1st NOV,  or I mine such and such coin because it is going to go up in value!

This is just silly.  Stop doing this now.  Esp on 1080ti mining ETH is just silly.  Always mine what is most profitable and buy the coins you want.  In the case of ETH you can probably get 30-40 more ETH this way.

Just saying...

Why buy when you can mine them?

I guess I will have to spoon feed you.  Here is real world numbers as of right this second.

Say one 1080ti can mine $2.74 worth of ETH per day.  It can also mine $4.15 per day on skein or maybe $4.50 on signatum.

So how much BTC does $2.74 buy you? 0.00065

How much BTC does $4.50 get you?  0.00107

How do you buy ETH? with BTC. So you get almost double the ETH mining the more profitable coin.  I mean I am pretty awesome at basic maths but pretty sure this should be REALLY REALLY obvious.  Also a bunch of pools and sites auto convert to BTC so you can avoid transactions and sale fees.  

You can't argue that ETH might go up because you are already buying more ETH.  If ETH goes upto the point its more profitable to mine then you could switch over.  You can leave that BTC as BTC because it is getting really good gains.  Or you can pick and choose a good time to convert it to ETH if ETH price comes down.

Yes, we are both equally gambling.

You can either mine the hot coin right now, and hope that it holds it's good conversion-to-BTC price so that you can get more BTC to buy ETH... losing conversion fees and transfer fees along the way, mind you.  Or you can just mine ETH directly and get what you put into the effort.

Sometimes it's better to mine the most consistent coin rather than the hot coin.


By the way, there's no need for the snarky "spoon feed" comment.

Actually  if you mine zec or sigt or skein  on nicehash and auto convert  to btc  then buying eth and holding the eth,

  you will earn more then mining and holding eth if you have 1080ti's

there are exceptions  but that is pretty much the facts.

A lot depends on how many cards  but mining zec skein and sigt have worked better for the most part.

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August 15, 2017, 05:08:13 PM
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It bounced back a fraction.

Can you guys check if yesterday's skunk profitability spike is still showing up on your Nicehash chart today? For some reason all I can see on my graph is a gap where there was a hump when I switched all my miners to skunk for a few hours. I clearly remember seeing a huge 2x bump in average profitability but now it's not there anymore.

Makes me think that Nicehash possibly had an issue with this algorithm yesterday or someone ordered a ton of hashing power by mistake and now they want to roll it back?

Just as an illustration, on my screenshot below I used a red pen to show how the chart looked like yesterday...
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Actually  if you mine zec or sigt or skein  on nicehash and auto convert  to btc  then buying eth and holding the eth,

  you will earn more then mining and holding eth if you have 1080ti's

there are exceptions  but that is pretty much the facts.

A lot depends on how many cards  but mining zec skein and sigt have worked better for the most part.

I think my point was missed.  Chasing after a hot coin to convert to a "stable" coin is gambling just as much as mining the "stable" coin and holding.

What happens when Sigt has a flash crash and you are left holding a bag of now less worthwhile coins?  Mining with a single 1080ti on Equihash at Nicehash will require you to wait 14 days to generate enough BTC to allow them to pay out.  Sure you can have more GPUs to decrease that wait period but you aren't in control of your income, you are depending on the "market" at Nicehash to deliver.  Plus you pay 4% to transfer out to your external wallet from Nicehash.  No thanks.

By no means am I advocating mining ETH with a 1080ti... but people have their legitimate reasons.  Mostly because they don't want to have to babysit their rigs chasing a hot coin, dealing with new versions of miners, compiling from source or just trusting that newbie posting who claims an extra 3% hashrate increase,or lose tons of profit in autoconversion schemes, conversion fees, transfer fees, etc.

I wish I could retire and watch rigs all day chasing after the "next big thing".  I envy you Philip.


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I get 52mhs 80tdp on 1080ti, core +100 (about 1850mhz) with the new tpruvot ccminer that came out recently.
What intensity?

Depends on what gpu you use.

You can try testing out if an intensity is right for you. You can start at 15 up to 30 or until artifacts are to show up.
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What's a fair price to pay for new 1080 ti's ?

I've seen them for around $720 in my area.

 Newegg usually has 1 to 3 GTX 1080ti models on sale at $699 at any given point - usually the Gigabyte "Windforce" model (this is a legit 2 slot card, but it really wants at least one fan with "open" access to cool well) as one of them.

 Works OK with a Zotac mini in front of it 2 slots over, but would probably prefer the Gigabyte or MSI "ITX" as a neighbor instead for better cooling.


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Intensity for me is 21 actually, I leave it to auto.  I have others on -i 24 about, it depends on the rig.  On nicehash, I did some digging yesterday.  Reason for payouts 250% what they should have been are that some guy left an unlimited order at something like 0.0450 btc per ghs, when fair mining price was about 0.02.  That lasted a few hours until the order was filled or cancelled.  Also, I saw huge discrepancy between usa/europe - some hash being rented at way below par, 0.0015 for example.  I put in a couple orders and the algos kicked in until the price went up to 0.02.  If you put your rigs on nicehash, it might be a good idea to put an order just below what you get paid for, and send it to yiimp ccminer pool or elsewhere - just to keep the market in check - else you may find someone getting cheap hash.  Mind you I only got 100 coins at a 10x cheap rate until price was equalized.  Nicehash does have its own "bot" you can have for free, but you have to dig a bit for it I think.
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