Innosilicon A5 DashMaster 30.2G 750W

[Mr_Snipes]

Some of the data is really questionable imho.
They write it can operate from 0 to 100 C ? No other miner can.
And also which chips should they use to use 50% of the power the D3 needs ?
D3 should already be 16 nm asic or less, it does not get much lower than that.

[Bibi187]

Keep in mind, Innosilicon has a history of delaying their shipment date buy 3-6 months. Ask the people who have the A4 Dominator (I was one of those people). First to market? nope, more like first to sell. And then Bitmain came out with the L3 that was way more efficient and literally half the freaking price. needless to say I sold the damn a4s and got me some L3+

Thanks for this information, i prolly will go on a bitmain for now

[maleemk]

From the look of it. Innosilicon has just put forward a vaporware to undermine the Bitmain D3 miner. Bad bussiness practice.

[Thetaj]

Keep in mind, Innosilicon has a history of delaying their shipment date buy 3-6 months. Ask the people who have the A4 Dominator (I was one of those people). First to market? nope, more like first to sell. And then Bitmain came out with the L3 that was way more efficient and literally half the freaking price. needless to say I sold the damn a4s and got me some L3+

Thanks for this information, i prolly will go on a bitmain for now

hey you don't have to take my word for it, its your money, try it! might work out.......might get rekt like us. Tell us how it goes!

[Bibi187]

Keep in mind, Innosilicon has a history of delaying their shipment date buy 3-6 months. Ask the people who have the A4 Dominator (I was one of those people). First to market? nope, more like first to sell. And then Bitmain came out with the L3 that was way more efficient and literally half the freaking price. needless to say I sold the damn a4s and got me some L3+

Thanks for this information, i prolly will go on a bitmain for now

hey you don't have to take my word for it, its your money, try it! might work out.......might get rekt like us. Tell us how it goes!

Dont worry i dont blame ppl for my action
Just nice to ear some information passed under the scoop !

[Searing]

Whats next? pandaminer x11, ebit x11, geass x11 , pinidea 10ghs things are gonna be screwed in 2 months.

Pinidea supposedly has one coming

Ibelink

Bitmain

Baikal

Insilocion

That's 5

[fanatic26]

Also remember that their last release was announced with really awesome specs that they couldnt even come close to matching.

A4 Dominator announcement:

Miner Performance: 600Mhs from 720W at the Wall or 850Mhs from 1020W

A4 Dominator actual retail speed:

280MH requiring a 1050w PSU


So take those preorder specs with a giant grain of salt

[woogod]

I just reached out to Inno about setting up a group buy and asked for more details and pricing. I would be willing to help setup the group buy if Inno is willing to work with the forum.

I will let you know what they tell me and if this is doable. I have worked with them on the A4 to do a group buy here so It might be something the would be willing to work with us on since we have done thing previously.

I also have a few contacts that are interested in a group buy,
Dominique from Innosilicon told me the MOQ they have in mind are 100 units, and our quantities did not fill that.

[woogod]

Also remember that their last release was announced with really awesome specs that they couldnt even come close to matching.

A4 Dominator announcement:

Miner Performance: 600Mhs from 720W at the Wall or 850Mhs from 1020W

A4 Dominator actual retail speed:

280MH requiring a 1050w PSU


So take those preorder specs with a giant grain of salt

were the specs changed after the deposits or payments for pre-orders were done?
Wouldn't that be outright false advertising..?

[Thetaj]

Also remember that their last release was announced with really awesome specs that they couldnt even come close to matching.

A4 Dominator announcement:

Miner Performance: 600Mhs from 720W at the Wall or 850Mhs from 1020W

A4 Dominator actual retail speed:

280MH requiring a 1050w PSU


So take those preorder specs with a giant grain of salt

lol please no more..........

[Savik]

From the look of it. Innosilicon has just put forward a vaporware to undermine the Bitmain D3 miner. Bad bussiness practice.

^^^Winner

I'll stick with the D3 (with a big fat assumption I can grab one)

[leecher2k16]

i want one

[not.you]

Some of the data is really questionable imho.
They write it can operate from 0 to 100 C ? No other miner can.
And also which chips should they use to use 50% of the power the D3 needs ?
D3 should already be 16 nm asic or less, it does not get much lower than that.

No way the D3 is 16nm.  The iBelink is 28nm and the D3 is less efficient.

[toptek]

I'm not trying to high jack this post.

 why not make the A4 better ? ........

This will cost ....

[Liquid71]

They need to drop the 100 MOQ and stop ignoring the market outside of China. Sick of ASIC companies ignoring the rest of the world...

[fanatic26]

They need to drop the 100 MOQ and stop ignoring the market outside of China. Sick of ASIC companies ignoring the rest of the world...

Well they can support one guy that buys 100, or 100 people that buy 1. I think its smart business if you dont have the support infrastructure to handle a ton of tiny claims. They are not ignoring the rest of the world, they are just ignoring the hobby miners that dont understand the mining game has long moved to datacenters and specialized companies.

[QuintLeo]

Yeah
First iBelinks come, Baikal follows, then Bitmain strikes, then now Innosilicon.
Good to see competition, but the skyrocketing difficulty with four new models of miners coming in...

 You forgot Pinidea, and iBelink is supposed to be shipping a SECOND generation machine shortly (the Bailkal "cube" doesn't count as it's still the same ASIC just they put 2 of them on one board for the cube).

 I suspect Innosilicon will drop the MOQ at some point, the A4 was originally MOQ 100 but they dropped that to 5 after a bit (and had a group buy that would ship 3 to one address).

 I WOULD worry about the preliminary specs not ending up matching the final specs, after the A4.



 Pandaminer doesn't do ASIC, they're strictly a GPU-based miner maker.

[QuintLeo]

Someone mentioned they offered 6-7k for 1 but they sounded like they wanted more then that

Assuming this is not a scam site?

 Innosilicon has been selling miners longer than most.
 They're NOT a scam site.


 This is not to say the "final" specs will be what they announced, they DID announce over-ambitious initial specs for the A4 after all - but it seems like EVERYONE got over-ambitious in the 14/16nm ASIC space, you don't see Bitmain claiming 14+ Ghash any more for S9s....

[btcapollo]

Someone mentioned they offered 6-7k for 1 but they sounded like they wanted more then that

Assuming this is not a scam site?

 Innosilicon has been selling miners longer than most.
 They're NOT a scam site.


 This is not to say the "final" specs will be what they announced, they DID announce over-ambitious initial specs for the A4 after all - but it seems like EVERYONE got over-ambitious in the 14/16nm ASIC space, you don't see Bitmain claiming 14+ Ghash any more for S9s....

Other than the power draw, I don't see a difference between the D3 and the A5. D3 does 15GHs and costs $2700 while the A5 does 30GHs and may cost around $6k. I guess the extra space is worth something plus the $100 in power costs. Save yourself $600 and buy two D3's.

[litecoinmaker]

Someone mentioned they offered 6-7k for 1 but they sounded like they wanted more then that

Assuming this is not a scam site?

 Innosilicon has been selling miners longer than most.
 They're NOT a scam site.


 This is not to say the "final" specs will be what they announced, they DID announce over-ambitious initial specs for the A4 after all - but it seems like EVERYONE got over-ambitious in the 14/16nm ASIC space, you don't see Bitmain claiming 14+ Ghash any more for S9s....

Other than the power draw, I don't see a difference between the D3 and the A5. D3 does 15GHs and costs $2700 while the A5 does 30GHs and may cost around $6k. I guess the extra space is worth something plus the $100 in power costs. Save yourself $600 and buy two D3's.

i agree

consider also that Inno usually delays the shipments...