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July 19, 2017, 11:37:07 PM |
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What the heck is with all the x11 ASIC all of a sudden? It's like a nuclear race.
The "all of a sudden" was last year, when 3 came out of nowhere in less than 2 months - each with a "lower" process node and higher efficiency. I suspect the recent price explosion on DASH is the cause for this SECOND wave of miners, coupled with Bitmain apparently reaching saturation to some degree on the S9 leading to them having unused capacity available at the foundry that makes their chips.
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sil2222
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July 20, 2017, 03:32:12 AM |
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Can confirm, just contacted Dominique from Inno that this is indeed true. 30.2 GH at 750W Would be interested to work with a trusted member of bitcointalk to organise a group buy, as their MOQ is 100 units.
Innosilicon does have a history of over stating miner specs like th A4 dominator was announced at 850nhs then they said 450 mhs finally when miner was released it was only 280 mhs w/overclock. I have one and it only hashes 250-276 Mhs so this could be another fairy tale. I think they announce wrong info to attract investors to finance new miners.
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QuintLeo
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July 20, 2017, 07:25:13 AM |
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Some of the data is really questionable imho. They write it can operate from 0 to 100 C ? No other miner can. And also which chips should they use to use 50% of the power the D3 needs ? D3 should already be 16 nm asic or less, it does not get much lower than that.
No way the D3 is 16nm. The iBelink is 28nm and the D3 is less efficient. D3 is quite a bit better on efficiency vs the Baikal, which is 28nm. It's possible the D3 is a highly optimized 28nm design and the Baikal NOT highly optimised, but no way to tell for sure right now. I do have to wonder how long Innosilicon has been working on the A5 though - perhaps they were planning to release it late this year with no pre-announcement (like the A1 and even more the A2) but decided they needed to reply when Bitmain came out of nowhere with the D3? I think the main problem with the A4 was that Innosillicon was announcing CHIP level specs originally based on early tape-out, and found out the hard way that process variation on the 14/16 nm node is a lot worse than on previous nodes (Bitmain had the same issue on the chips for the S9), leading them to be way too optimistic about what a miner would be able to produce - or the cost was too high and they had to cut chips and run them at a higher LESS EFFICIENT voltage to keep the price down to something viable for a miner.
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July 20, 2017, 07:31:44 AM |
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Can confirm, just contacted Dominique from Inno that this is indeed true. 30.2 GH at 750W Would be interested to work with a trusted member of bitcointalk to organise a group buy, as their MOQ is 100 units.
Contact longsnowsm. He did last legit A4 group buy. With everyone satisfied. Check out his Profile trust rating and feedback.
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July 20, 2017, 07:33:35 AM |
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Just received a scam PM from Lon qsnowsm: - Notice the Q instead of G ________________________________________ Hi David2201,
Thank you for expressing interest in my Innosillicon A5 Dashminer group buy:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2034549.0
I have now secured a batch 1 order of 20 units.
Spec = 30.2 GH @ 750W CE marked Shipped by end Aug
Current price per unit = 2.5BTC inc. worldwide express shipping.
All units are on a first come first served basis ____________________________________________
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July 20, 2017, 07:47:16 AM |
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Just received a scam PM from Lon qsnowsm: - Notice the Q instead of G ________________________________________ Hi David2201,
Thank you for expressing interest in my Innosillicon A5 Dashminer group buy:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2034549.0
I have now secured a batch 1 order of 20 units.
Spec = 30.2 GH @ 750W CE marked Shipped by end Aug
Current price per unit = 2.5BTC inc. worldwide express shipping.
All units are on a first come first served basis ____________________________________________
Yep scammer. Brand new today. Newbie. No feedback yet. Obvious asshole.
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July 20, 2017, 08:07:07 AM |
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If the Antminer D3 suprise you, please wait for the next monster. Pre-order begin at August. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dash.org%2Fforum%2Fdata%2Fattachments%2F3%2F3955-eae0dec112a6cda5ce6768647af4ec78.jpg&t=665&c=qzIM87bOrOytGA) That is even faster and more efficient than the Antminer D3.
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July 20, 2017, 08:58:55 AM |
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Poor guys who bought that Ibelink on pre-order for 9k$ ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Mr_Snipes
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July 20, 2017, 09:04:29 AM |
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Hhhhmmmz ... There are so many contradicting infos out there - at some point it was said that Innosilicon was almost bancrupt. I wonder where they want to get more funds and R & D from to build something that outperforms the newest bitmain-development. By factor 2.
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July 20, 2017, 09:43:37 AM |
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Would nice to see a video about a working one...
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shaninium
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July 20, 2017, 09:45:25 AM |
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40cm long is that longer then normal?
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July 20, 2017, 09:47:35 AM |
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Yeah First iBelinks come, Baikal follows, then Bitmain strikes, then now Innosilicon. Good to see competition, but the skyrocketing difficulty with four new models of miners coming in...
Yea I agree better to be off with x11 mining for now, there is going to be about 5k-10k pieces released from august to october, all of them doing from 11GH to 30GH, its going to be bloodbath.
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This is madness. Prepare yourself miners, winter is here!
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Raziel__
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July 20, 2017, 09:53:04 AM |
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Poor guys who bought that Ibelink on pre-order for 9k$ ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) If Im not wrong those guys are getting miners first in August 1.
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This is madness. Prepare yourself miners, winter is here!
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July 20, 2017, 10:01:23 AM |
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Poor guys who bought that Ibelink on pre-order for 9k$ ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) yea it is! first from bitmain then 2nd shocking news from inno..2 bombs.
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July 20, 2017, 11:05:25 AM |
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Would nice to see a video about a working one...
I guess that Inno A5 devices will take some time to be ready. Probably Inno is fighting against Bitmain to be the first coming to market with the fastest miner but probably the development tests are not yet 100% finished and therefore the reliability not guaranteed yet. Regards
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July 20, 2017, 11:09:16 AM |
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This might be a really silly question, but the Innosilicon A5 DASHmaster is for DigitalCash (DASH) only?
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kodokbuduk
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July 20, 2017, 11:14:40 AM |
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Would nice to see a video about a working one...
I guess that Inno A5 devices will take some time to be ready. Probably Inno is fighting against Bitmain to be the first coming to market with the fastest miner but probably the development tests are not yet 100% finished and therefore the reliability not guaranteed yet. Regards How about bitmain? what do you think? are they ready? because i can see they put L3+ picture on D3..
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July 20, 2017, 11:20:51 AM |
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This might be a really silly question, but the Innosilicon A5 DASHmaster is for DigitalCash (DASH) only?
You can mine any X11 coin
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