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Author Topic: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees  (Read 691190 times)
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March 10, 2019, 08:18:24 PM
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the only digital coin that is worth consideration IMO is the one that can scale and is secure.  If it cannot stop double spending or if it cannot properly scale then no one will use it as money at scale.

BCH is now a dev based consensus model so there is a single point of failure same with btc.  The goal of the anti-bitcoin crowd is to add back in 3rd parties like Lightning network and dev based permissions/ liabilities like all vulnerable pre-bitcoin projects had.

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March 11, 2019, 03:31:33 AM
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the only digital coin that is worth consideration IMO is the one that can scale and is secure.  If it cannot stop double spending or if it cannot properly scale then no one will use it as money at scale.

BCH is now a dev based consensus model so there is a single point of failure same with btc.  The goal of the anti-bitcoin crowd is to add back in 3rd parties like Lightning network and dev based permissions/ liabilities like all vulnerable pre-bitcoin projects had.

LOL, and you think I'm a troll. You literally just said bitcoin was anti-bitcoin.

Stop using the introduction of confusion as your primary marketing tactic.

There's only 1 bitcoin, and that's Bitcoin. Then there are several altcoins with bitcoin in their names. These include:

Bitcoin Cash
Bitcoin SV
Bitcoin Gold
Bitcoin Diamond
Bitcoin Private
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March 11, 2019, 04:30:24 AM
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Sooner or later, the crypto community would soon realize both pros and cons of Bitcoin and its derivatives, that in the event that happens, they should take sides. I guess "the ball is now in the hands of the developers" of this projects and their capability to further improve and innovate more to ensure long term survivability. Imho.
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March 11, 2019, 12:02:39 PM
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Sooner or later, the crypto community would soon realize both pros and cons of Bitcoin and its derivatives, that in the event that happens, they should take sides. I guess "the ball is now in the hands of the developers" of this projects and their capability to further improve and innovate more to ensure long term survivability. Imho.

The miners are the ones who run the network.  this is why the devs are trying to remove them and also why miners should be hiring devs like SV  seems to be doing IMO.

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March 11, 2019, 12:16:21 PM
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There are hundreds of derivatives to chose from though ofc



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March 11, 2019, 12:52:59 PM
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The miners are the ones who run the network.  this is why the devs are trying to remove them and also why miners should be hiring devs like SV  seems to be doing IMO.

Oh no! BTC will assuredly come to a standstill!

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Devs trying to remove mining. Riiiight.

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March 11, 2019, 01:25:06 PM
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The miners are the ones who run the network.  this is why the devs are trying to remove them and also why miners should be hiring devs like SV  seems to be doing IMO.

Oh no! BTC will assuredly come to a standstill!

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Devs trying to remove mining. Riiiight.

Yes, that’s exactly what the devs are doing with the lightning network. The devs are removing the miners incentive to mine through the implementation of the lightning network. What do you think the blocksize debate is about?

The whole economic model of Bitcoin is literally destroyed for the socialist oligarchy of lightning nodes to collect their ‘hidden fees’ off chain. It’s central banking all over kiddo.

Worried about my trust rating? I am too. Bitcointalk users ‘Lauda’ and ‘gmaxwell’ have abused their superior powers in trust system to align their views with the ‘correct views.’ In no legal system in any jurisdiction do we have a definition for what Bitcoin is, they do not have the power to tell us what it is based on the rule of law.
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March 11, 2019, 03:06:11 PM
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Devs trying to remove mining. Riiiight.

Yes, that’s exactly what the devs are doing with the lightning network. The devs are removing the miners incentive to mine through the implementation of the lightning network. What do you think the blocksize debate is about?

The whole economic model of Bitcoin is literally destroyed for the socialist oligarchy of lightning nodes to collect their ‘hidden fees’ off chain. It’s central banking all over kiddo.

Lightning is an extremely tiny portion of the total transaction volume. This is a funny narrative that you've constructed to shill your fork of an altcoin, and nobody believes you. Mining won't come to a stop due to lightning because for as long as you and I are alive there will always be a block reward. The last bitcoin won't be mined until 2140, so its not really a problem to be concerned about for the next 120 years.

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March 11, 2019, 07:20:07 PM
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Devs trying to remove mining. Riiiight.

Yes, that’s exactly what the devs are doing with the lightning network. The devs are removing the miners incentive to mine through the implementation of the lightning network. What do you think the blocksize debate is about?

The whole economic model of Bitcoin is literally destroyed for the socialist oligarchy of lightning nodes to collect their ‘hidden fees’ off chain. It’s central banking all over kiddo.

Lightning is an extremely tiny portion of the total transaction volume. This is a funny narrative that you've constructed to shill your fork of an altcoin, and nobody believes you. Mining won't come to a stop due to lightning because for as long as you and I are alive there will always be a block reward. The last bitcoin won't be mined until 2140, so its not really a problem to be concerned about for the next 120 years.

So you don’t want lightning transactions to increase in volume?

Worried about my trust rating? I am too. Bitcointalk users ‘Lauda’ and ‘gmaxwell’ have abused their superior powers in trust system to align their views with the ‘correct views.’ In no legal system in any jurisdiction do we have a definition for what Bitcoin is, they do not have the power to tell us what it is based on the rule of law.
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March 11, 2019, 07:21:42 PM
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This shit show thread  is so entertaining

Is this the real bch/sv/gold/diamond/shit/alt thread??

$100,000 BTC in one hour🍄💊
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March 11, 2019, 07:40:10 PM
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This shit show thread  is so entertaining

Is this the real bch/sv/gold/diamond/shit/alt thread??


You’re quite literally one of the top posters in this thread.

Worried about my trust rating? I am too. Bitcointalk users ‘Lauda’ and ‘gmaxwell’ have abused their superior powers in trust system to align their views with the ‘correct views.’ In no legal system in any jurisdiction do we have a definition for what Bitcoin is, they do not have the power to tell us what it is based on the rule of law.
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March 12, 2019, 02:42:38 AM
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Devs trying to remove mining. Riiiight.

Yes, that’s exactly what the devs are doing with the lightning network. The devs are removing the miners incentive to mine through the implementation of the lightning network. What do you think the blocksize debate is about?

The whole economic model of Bitcoin is literally destroyed for the socialist oligarchy of lightning nodes to collect their ‘hidden fees’ off chain. It’s central banking all over kiddo.

Lightning is an extremely tiny portion of the total transaction volume. This is a funny narrative that you've constructed to shill your fork of an altcoin, and nobody believes you. Mining won't come to a stop due to lightning because for as long as you and I are alive there will always be a block reward. The last bitcoin won't be mined until 2140, so its not really a problem to be concerned about for the next 120 years.

So you don’t want lightning transactions to increase in volume?

What does it matter to you if they do or not? You're assuming that lightning will cut down miner fees, which are only a small portion of the block reward. Lightning isn't meant to take away from what is currently in place, its meant to accommodate future growth. In addition, as I mentioned and you glossed over, block rewards won't disappear for over 120 years.

So your whole narrative is bogus.

I don't know if you get paid to do this or you do it for fun, but I sure hope its the latter. If not, your employer isn't getting their money's worth and should up the quality of their troll standards.

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March 12, 2019, 01:16:38 PM
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Sooner or later, the crypto community would soon realize both pros and cons of Bitcoin and its derivatives, that in the event that happens, they should take sides. I guess "the ball is now in the hands of the developers" of this projects and their capability to further improve and innovate more to ensure long term survivability. Imho.

The miners are the ones who run the network.  this is why the devs are trying to remove them and also why miners should be hiring devs like SV  seems to be doing IMO.

Yeah, projects with POW mining algorithms have an inherent risk of being compromised and that is a bit risky. If they could only upgrade the network to change its mining algorithm to other more secure algorithms that uses less energy, then I think it might be good for all of the community.
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March 12, 2019, 11:42:41 PM
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Sooner or later, the crypto community would soon realize both pros and cons of Bitcoin and its derivatives, that in the event that happens, they should take sides. I guess "the ball is now in the hands of the developers" of this projects and their capability to further improve and innovate more to ensure long term survivability. Imho.

The miners are the ones who run the network.  this is why the devs are trying to remove them and also why miners should be hiring devs like SV  seems to be doing IMO.

Yeah, projects with POW mining algorithms have an inherent risk of being compromised and that is a bit risky. If they could only upgrade the network to change its mining algorithm to other more secure algorithms that uses less energy, then I think it might be good for all of the community.

Nice try to twist my words lol.  that is not at all the point lol.  the algo is not used in bitcoin like how encrypted files in storage uses an encryption algo lol.  and the community has nothing to do with mining LOL.  And your comment about POS or hybrid algo & electricity shows you do not understand reality based security at all.  good luck.

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altcoins will disappear, there will be only BTC and BCH as a large block addition
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March 14, 2019, 08:52:58 AM
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Unicorns will appear and give everyone pizzas made of seaweed and deep fried giraffe eyelids




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March 14, 2019, 09:12:00 AM
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altcoins will disappear, there will be only BTC and BCH as a large block addition


This is the post of the day really funny when someone admit publicly altcoins have no future. You should learn the definition of altcoins and this thread where stands?
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March 14, 2019, 10:11:59 AM
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altcoins will disappear, there will be only BTC and BCH as a large block addition


This is the post of the day really funny when someone admit publicly altcoins have no future. You should learn the definition of altcoins and this thread where stands?

I guess guess BCH is more likely becoming a survivor fork of BTC and that is good since competition will surely spur innovation. I also think that the other one governed by faketoshi and his armies would have a hard time surpassing it. Crypto community don't like to be deceived. Smiley
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March 14, 2019, 12:08:09 PM
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altcoins will disappear, there will be only BTC and BCH as a large block addition


This is the post of the day really funny when someone admit publicly altcoins have no future. You should learn the definition of altcoins and this thread where stands?

I guess guess BCH is more likely becoming a survivor fork of BTC and that is good since competition will surely spur innovation. I also think that the other one governed by faketoshi and his armies would have a hard time surpassing it. Crypto community don't like to be deceived. Smiley


The definition of altcoin?

Do you realize these terms are socially constructed over time by people and not by any technology or science. You could call Bitcoin anything you want and the blockchain will not change.

There is no ‘definition’ is to what an ‘altcoin’ is and what ‘bitcoin’ is.

You have a lot to learn kiddo, stick with those kiddy diddlers over at EOS, this is the grownups forum .

Worried about my trust rating? I am too. Bitcointalk users ‘Lauda’ and ‘gmaxwell’ have abused their superior powers in trust system to align their views with the ‘correct views.’ In no legal system in any jurisdiction do we have a definition for what Bitcoin is, they do not have the power to tell us what it is based on the rule of law.
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March 14, 2019, 01:00:46 PM
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The definition of altcoin?

Do you realize these terms are socially constructed over time by people and not by any technology or science. You could call Bitcoin anything you want and the blockchain will not change.

There is no ‘definition’ is to what an ‘altcoin’ is and what ‘bitcoin’ is.

The definition of altcoin is every cryptocurrency that is not bitcoin. Ergo, BSV is an altcoin. This isn't debatable, even on video  Cheesy

You have a lot to learn kiddo, stick with those kiddy diddlers over at EOS, this is the grownups forum .

Oh man, the guy who backs Calvin Ayre's coin should not be calling anybody "kiddy diddlers".

https://dealbreaker.com/2019/03/calvin-ayre-twitter-oops

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