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November 25, 2018, 02:21:23 PM
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https://coingeek.com/original-bitcoin-will-live-bitcoin-sv-bsv/
There is a lack of consensus behind what is "bitcoin".

Not really. There is bitcoin (BTC) and 1000+ altcoins, a handful of which are trying desperately to create confusion over what is the "the real bitcoin" as their main marketing tactic.

Its still BTC. Always has been, always will be.

BCH had very little real world adoption (even less now), and BSV has zero. A coin whose entire premise is trying to pretend and trick new users into thinking it is "the real bitcoin" is no coin at all.

BTC was no longer bitcoin after the segwit upgrade, how many times must i repeat this to you before it penetrates your thick skull?

Repeating something over and over again doesn't make it true. It is, however, the definition of insanity.
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November 25, 2018, 02:58:43 PM
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https://coingeek.com/original-bitcoin-will-live-bitcoin-sv-bsv/
There is a lack of consensus behind what is "bitcoin".

Not really. There is bitcoin (BTC) and 1000+ altcoins, a handful of which are trying desperately to create confusion over what is the "the real bitcoin" as their main marketing tactic.

Its still BTC. Always has been, always will be.

BCH had very little real world adoption (even less now), and BSV has zero. A coin whose entire premise is trying to pretend and trick new users into thinking it is "the real bitcoin" is no coin at all.

BTC was no longer bitcoin after the segwit upgrade, how many times must i repeat this to you before it penetrates your thick skull?

Repeating something over and over again doesn't make it true. It is, however, the definition of insanity.

Yep, crazy ambitions, power, influence and money could completely alter a person and his pattern of behavior. There will be always one original Bitcoin, forks will be always splits from the main chain and nothing more.
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November 25, 2018, 03:12:21 PM
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So is this being the BCH/ABC or SV thread these days?

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November 25, 2018, 03:14:19 PM
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So is this being the BCH/ABC or SV thread these days?
As we know already BCHABC win the race where BCHSV loss the position. In this case BCHABC should take place of BCH.

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November 25, 2018, 03:47:50 PM
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There is a lack of consensus behind what is "bitcoin".

Not really. There is bitcoin (BTC) and 1000+ altcoins, a handful of which are trying desperately to create confusion over what is the "the real bitcoin" as their main marketing tactic.

Its still BTC. Always has been, always will be.

BCH had very little real world adoption (even less now), and BSV has zero. A coin whose entire premise is trying to pretend and trick new users into thinking it is "the real bitcoin" is no coin at all.

BTC was no longer bitcoin after the segwit upgrade, how many times must i repeat this to you before it penetrates your thick skull?

Repeating something over and over again doesn't make it true. It is, however, the definition of insanity.

But it is true, and you're living in denial.

I'll go ahead and do some of the research for you since it's too hard for you.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6ibp8l/segwit_and_segwit2x_would_be_disastrous_for/
A change in the protocol that doesn't benefit bitcoin is an attack on bitcoin, and you have been duped into believe BTC is still bitcoin. On top of that, segwit opened the door for new attack vectors

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November 25, 2018, 04:07:32 PM
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Repeating something over and over again doesn't make it true. It is, however, the definition of insanity.

But it is true, and you're living in denial.

I'll go ahead and do some of the research for you since it's too hard for you.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6ibp8l/segwit_and_segwit2x_would_be_disastrous_for/
A change in the protocol that doesn't benefit bitcoin is an attack on bitcoin, and you have been duped into believe BTC is still bitcoin. On top of that, segwit opened the door for new attack vectors

There's flat earthers that make more sense than you.

Earlier you said you haven't lost any money. So clearly you're not invested in BCH, BSV or BTC. So does that mean you're getting paid to pump SV in fiat? If so, whoever hired you should know they're not getting their moneys worth.

I'm done entertaining you. Try convincing every other crypto user not in this thread of your conspiracies instead.
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November 25, 2018, 05:04:30 PM
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Repeating something over and over again doesn't make it true. It is, however, the definition of insanity.

But it is true, and you're living in denial.

I'll go ahead and do some of the research for you since it's too hard for you.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6ibp8l/segwit_and_segwit2x_would_be_disastrous_for/
A change in the protocol that doesn't benefit bitcoin is an attack on bitcoin, and you have been duped into believe BTC is still bitcoin. On top of that, segwit opened the door for new attack vectors

There's flat earthers that make more sense than you.

Earlier you said you haven't lost any money. So clearly you're not invested in BCH, BSV or BTC. So does that mean you're getting paid to pump SV in fiat? If so, whoever hired you should know they're not getting their moneys worth.

I'm done entertaining you. Try convincing every other crypto user not in this thread of your conspiracies instead.
I'm going to invest in the coin that is aiming to be p2p electronic cash for the world that scales on chain. As of right now that is BSV. I'm not paid by anyone, I just present facts, facts which seem to make you shake in your boots. Are you nervous about your precious btc? You should be, wont be long before its worthless. I've given you plenty of facts that prove btc is no longer bitcoin, but you fail to understand how bitcoin works and how blockchains work so theres nothing else I can do for you.

BTC=Segwit
BCH=WHC/Plasma, DSV, and shitcoins
BSV= Bitcoin, p2p electronic cash

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November 25, 2018, 06:09:33 PM
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Is BCHSV starting to raise in price too much?
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November 25, 2018, 08:26:49 PM
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So if you have BTC this means that you have BCH SV or was that just a fork of BCH on

yeah, not paying attention ..only BCH I have 'supposedly' I have not touched from the BTC Hoard wallet from when it landed...

brad


If you haven't split your coins from the original BCH fork from BTC, you now have coins in both the ABC and SV fork. Since neither side has implemented replay protection, it may be a challenge to split the coins. Since you are a miner, you can probably mine coinbase coins from both sides and then use these as 'tainted" coins to do the split. The process looks really complicated now, especially since you haven't done the original split. In any event, if you want to claim coins at any point, you are probably going to have to import your private keys/seed phrase for your BTC to Electron Cash.(That would probably be the easiest software, AFAIK) I would move your BTC to a new private key/seed as a first step.

As big a mess as all this is on Jan 1st, 2020 we could find out that Craig Wright really is the last man standing from the Satoshi group...and has access to what

he says is the so-called BTC trust at that point...god knows things are weird enough anyway on all this

so I'll probably just leave it all alone all the forked coins on my 2015 HODL wallet

(by the by I dumped 13 BTC like a small panic'd girl to pay for health insurance for 2019 and with my LTC dump have $$$ to stay retired till 2020 when I'm

65 years and could take soc sec 1 yr early and then could get Medicaid (no more 12k a year payments for health insurance)

so yeah, don't want to work for anyone for the next year so PUNTED..and 13 number of BTC being evil and all seems appropriate) Sad


hopefully, I'm wrong and this BCH war will pan out and BTC will recover..but not counting on it to keep retired this last year don't ya know Smiley

thanks for the update

brad

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November 25, 2018, 08:34:58 PM
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Is BCHSV starting to raise in price too much?

How is it too much when they were losing it for more than 50% ? Just wait until another pump or dump happened again with this coin, not surprising though to see it gets pumped again for more than 100% in a couple days/weeks/months/years later.
Just hope, this bullshit drama come to an end.
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November 25, 2018, 08:36:46 PM
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Is BCHSV starting to raise in price too much?

How is it too much when they were losing it for more than 50% ? Just wait until another pump or dump happened again with this coin, not surprising though to see it gets pumped again for more than 100% in a couple days/weeks/months/years later.
Just hope, this bullshit drama come to an end.


the craig wright group could be playing this and selling BTC high and buying low...would that not be a kick in the nuts if it was that kinda play


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November 25, 2018, 08:39:22 PM
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Is BCHSV starting to raise in price too much?

How is it too much when they were losing it for more than 50% ? Just wait until another pump or dump happened again with this coin, not surprising though to see it gets pumped again for more than 100% in a couple days/weeks/months/years later.
Just hope, this bullshit drama come to an end.


the craig wright group could be playing this and selling BTC high and buying low...would that not be a kick in the nuts if it was that kinda play


Everyone tries to buy on low rate and sell on high rate. It's trade also and behind bump and dump plays vital role by gambler.

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November 25, 2018, 11:46:03 PM
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Here is mister Bitcoin Judas with his new video... and his fantastic Horse news.
COngratulations.
I have one question:
When next moon flippening fork ??

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November 25, 2018, 11:55:30 PM
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Is BCHSV starting to raise in price too much?

How is it too much when they were losing it for more than 50% ? Just wait until another pump or dump happened again with this coin, not surprising though to see it gets pumped again for more than 100% in a couple days/weeks/months/years later.
Just hope, this bullshit drama come to an end.


the craig wright group could be playing this and selling BTC high and buying low...would that not be a kick in the nuts if it was that kinda play


Everyone tries to buy on low rate and sell on high rate. It's trade also and behind bump and dump plays vital role by gambler.

Sorry I was unclear...I meant that he was not doing this with BTC SV or BTC ABC ....but selling BTC high to buy back BTC low...and all this BTC SV was just a cover with the price dump a cover

sure..I'm just making things up...but hell...that would be quite the 'con' indeed if he pulled something like that off

only a 1 in 100 chance of that .just tossing it out their for the 'wince' factor

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November 26, 2018, 12:26:25 AM
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So if you have BTC this means that you have BCH SV or was that just a fork of BCH on

yeah, not paying attention ..only BCH I have 'supposedly' I have not touched from the BTC Hoard wallet from when it landed...

brad


If you haven't split your coins from the original BCH fork from BTC, you now have coins in both the ABC and SV fork. Since neither side has implemented replay protection, it may be a challenge to split the coins. Since you are a miner, you can probably mine coinbase coins from both sides and then use these as 'tainted" coins to do the split. The process looks really complicated now, especially since you haven't done the original split. In any event, if you want to claim coins at any point, you are probably going to have to import your private keys/seed phrase for your BTC to Electron Cash.(That would probably be the easiest software, AFAIK) I would move your BTC to a new private key/seed as a first step.

As big a mess as all this is on Jan 1st, 2020 we could find out that Craig Wright really is the last man standing from the Satoshi group...and has access to what

he says is the so-called BTC trust at that point...god knows things are weird enough anyway on all this

so I'll probably just leave it all alone all the forked coins on my 2015 HODL wallet

(by the by I dumped 13 BTC like a small panic'd girl to pay for health insurance for 2019 and with my LTC dump have $$$ to stay retired till 2020 when I'm

65 years and could take soc sec 1 yr early and then could get Medicaid (no more 12k a year payments for health insurance)

so yeah, don't want to work for anyone for the next year so PUNTED..and 13 number of BTC being evil and all seems appropriate) Sad


hopefully, I'm wrong and this BCH war will pan out and BTC will recover..but not counting on it to keep retired this last year don't ya know Smiley

thanks for the update

brad

I am not jealous of your predicament.  Myself, I considered the changes and the way they have been forced and I was able to make up my mind very easily.  I refuse to be a party to fraud and further I know that the function many think this dsv will deliver is more durable if implemented in better ways more in line with the needs of the merchants who we hope would use this coin.  ABC and BTC have no future as they have refused all recommendations by their peers, miners and experts.  The only thing they have as a technical argument is Always Bad Craigman.



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So if you have BTC this means that you have BCH SV or was that just a fork of BCH on

yeah, not paying attention ..only BCH I have 'supposedly' I have not touched from the BTC Hoard wallet from when it landed...

brad


If you haven't split your coins from the original BCH fork from BTC, you now have coins in both the ABC and SV fork. Since neither side has implemented replay protection, it may be a challenge to split the coins. Since you are a miner, you can probably mine coinbase coins from both sides and then use these as 'tainted" coins to do the split. The process looks really complicated now, especially since you haven't done the original split. In any event, if you want to claim coins at any point, you are probably going to have to import your private keys/seed phrase for your BTC to Electron Cash.(That would probably be the easiest software, AFAIK) I would move your BTC to a new private key/seed as a first step.

As big a mess as all this is on Jan 1st, 2020 we could find out that Craig Wright really is the last man standing from the Satoshi group...and has access to what

he says is the so-called BTC trust at that point...god knows things are weird enough anyway on all this

so I'll probably just leave it all alone all the forked coins on my 2015 HODL wallet

(by the by I dumped 13 BTC like a small panic'd girl to pay for health insurance for 2019 and with my LTC dump have $$$ to stay retired till 2020 when I'm

65 years and could take soc sec 1 yr early and then could get Medicaid (no more 12k a year payments for health insurance)

so yeah, don't want to work for anyone for the next year so PUNTED..and 13 number of BTC being evil and all seems appropriate) Sad


hopefully, I'm wrong and this BCH war will pan out and BTC will recover..but not counting on it to keep retired this last year don't ya know Smiley

thanks for the update

brad

I am not jealous of your predicament.  Myself, I considered the changes and the way they have been forced and I was able to make up my mind very easily.  I refuse to be a party to fraud and further I know that the function many think this dsv will deliver is more durable if implemented in better ways more in line with the needs of the merchants who we hope would use this coin.  ABC and BTC have no future as they have refused all recommendations by their peers, miners and experts.  The only thing they have as a technical argument is Always Bad Craigman.




well seems now I have 87.45 BTC and 100 bch abc and 100 bch sv..plus the other assorted BTC forked coin I've not messed with. Dumped the last of my LTC. Have other coins that are so low, not worth moving.

so hell just hodl'ing all ...so I'm not tossing rocks either ....will see how it goes... the main thing have enough $$$ and paid off next years health insurance  so should be good till next dec 2019 and can stay retired

and if we are in a full recession in 2019 and 2020 as I suspect I can just take soc sec early and my traditional investments and hopefully still be in some kinda HODL mode

everything should pump now with my actions...it always does...so there is that

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everything should pump now with my actions...it always does

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wow yeah I thought I was the only one with that gift lol.   Grin

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everything should pump now with my actions...it always does

brad

wow yeah I thought I was the only one with that gift lol.   Grin
You are not only one. If you were only one then price dropped to almost 0 and you had all. There are a lots of people who are holding. Smiley I am also holding but not too much.


well seems now I have 87.45 btc and 100 bch abc and 100 bch sv..plus the other assorted BTC forked coin I've not messed with. Dumped the last of my LTC. Have other coins that are so low not worth moving.

so hell just hodl'ing all ...so I'm not tossing rocks either ....will see how it goes...

everything should pump now with my actions...it always does

brad


I think you will get good profit once it bump.

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November 26, 2018, 01:16:00 AM
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Is there still any BSV fan around here that can maybe explain why the hashrate keeps dropping and it is now at the bottom?

I mean, they said that all their hashpower was devoted to BSV and that they would keep mining it at a loss even for a decade... yet the hashrate is now less than half than at the peak.

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November 26, 2018, 04:12:33 AM
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everything should pump now with my actions...it always does

brad

wow yeah I thought I was the only one with that gift lol.   Grin
You are not only one. If you were only one then price dropped to almost 0 and you had all. There are a lots of people who are holding. Smiley I am also holding but not too much.


well seems now I have 87.45 btc and 100 bch abc and 100 bch sv..plus the other assorted BTC forked coin I've not messed with. Dumped the last of my LTC. Have other coins that are so low not worth moving.

so hell just hodl'ing all ...so I'm not tossing rocks either ....will see how it goes...

everything should pump now with my actions...it always does

brad


I think you will get good profit once it bump.

its all this EATING and putting a roof over your head and clothing and bathing and smelling nice for others...etc etc...eats up my crypto ACK!

but again, if it is a choice of burning all my crypto in the next 1.5 years (retire 1 yr early soc sec and traditional investments) or 2.5 years (hold off with crypto till full 66 years on all)

I will dump the works not to work for anyone again. (would retire early however at 65 as not to kill all crypto if that was the case)

so worse case for me..is I retire 3 years early and still have tulips and beanie baby BTC and altcoins

(I need a better outlook on all this ..that was just dismal)

later

brad

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