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November 19, 2018, 04:22:05 PM
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Can someone explain reasoning behind why CSW believes ABC changes would make BCH illegal, has he spelled out in detail what the problem is?

DSV is what makes bitcoin (BCH) illegal.

https://ambcrypto.com/bitcoin-cash-bch-proponent-dsv-changes-it-from-being-something-that-is-effectively-legal/

https://bitcoinprice.media/how-dsv-seeks-to-criminalize-the-bitcoin-bch-blockchain.html

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November 19, 2018, 04:32:00 PM
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CSW is putting millions of his own dollars mining at a loss for SV. While Roger and ABC just borrow hash from BTC pool when they need it

He/You probably has about $500 to his/your name. Everything else is borrowed from his/your special friend. He won't be getting anything back either.
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November 19, 2018, 04:36:39 PM
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CSW is putting millions of his own dollars mining at a loss for SV. While Roger and ABC just borrow hash from BTC pool when they need it

He/You probably has about $500 to his/your name. Everything else is borrowed from his/your special friend. He won't be getting anything back either.

Another core troll I smell, hows segwit working out for ya and BTC?

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November 19, 2018, 05:27:36 PM
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CSW is putting millions of his own dollars mining at a loss for SV. While Roger and ABC just borrow hash from BTC pool when they need it

He/You probably has about $500 to his/your name. Everything else is borrowed from his/your special friend. He won't be getting anything back either.

Another core troll I smell, hows segwit working out for ya and BTC?
Must cut out the Bcash cancer for the sake of crypto . This is not a drill  Angry


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Must cut out the Bcash cancer for the sake of crypto . This is not a drill  Angry

The Bcash community has always been toxic. They have hated on Bitcoin for months and played a big part in ruining the crypto market. When Bitcoin goes down, it takes everything else with it, including Bcash. So it is kind of stupid to hate on Bitcoin knowing that it will have an adverse effect on the value of your own project. They have been warned about this for months, but they wouldn't listen. Now they are reaping what they have sown. And we are all paying for it. I hope the BCH community has learned something from this. Hopefully, they will learn to get along with others in this space and stop being so hateful and divisive.
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November 19, 2018, 06:59:28 PM
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Another core troll I smell, hows segwit working out for ya and BTC?

Spiffing. Just sent a SegshitcoreborgstreamAxaBilderbergLizard tx and it worked fine.
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November 20, 2018, 01:42:50 AM
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CSW is putting millions of his own dollars mining at a loss for SV. While Roger and ABC just borrow hash from BTC pool when they need it

He/You probably has about $500 to his/your name. Everything else is borrowed from his/your special friend. He won't be getting anything back either.

Another core troll I smell, hows segwit working out for ya and BTC?
Hows the btrash price working out for ya..your shitcoin going way down
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I am starting to think that CSW knew all along that he had no to way win and it was all just a plot to profit from shorting both BTC and BCH. Anyone else?

Cost: A few millions.

Potential Profit: Tens or even hundred of millions.

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November 20, 2018, 02:31:52 AM
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Can someone explain reasoning behind why CSW believes ABC changes would make BCH illegal, has he spelled out in detail what the problem is?

You can read his own words in all their idiotic glory here:

https://medium.com/@craig_10243/drugs-fraud-and-murder-ddf12208ae8b

Basically he claims that by introducing an oracle-capable OP code Bitcoin Cash can be used for gambling, the Silk Road 2.0 and even murder-for-hire services. It's all bullshit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/9vxc7w/illegal_gambling_futures_markets_on_murder_and/

Perhaps most ironically he doesn't mind that his #1 partner Calvin Ayre made his fortune from running a gambling site, Bodog.


Can someone explain reasoning behind why CSW believes ABC changes would make BCH illegal, has he spelled out in detail what the problem is?

DSV is what makes bitcoin (BCH) illegal.

https://ambcrypto.com/bitcoin-cash-bch-proponent-dsv-changes-it-from-being-something-that-is-effectively-legal/

https://bitcoinprice.media/how-dsv-seeks-to-criminalize-the-bitcoin-bch-blockchain.html


Thanks for the links, CSW is like a medical doctor with catastrophically awful bedside manner giving brutally honest, but truthful,  bad news, I think he's correct. If miners process transactions that can be demonstrated to be involved in illegal activities,  and these tx are not encrypted and can be viewed in plain text on the blockchain, then the miners are vulnerable to legal action. This seems pretty clear cut to me now, just a shame CSW's personality obscures his message.

Edit, I remember hearing about a case where a guy went to jail for lending his brother a car, just because his brother asked "I need to use your car to do X', and X was obviously illegal. If he just asked 'I need to use your car' , then the brother would not have known of any illegal activity involving his car, so he would not have committed any crime.
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November 20, 2018, 03:23:41 AM
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CSW is like a medical doctor with catastrophically awful bedside manner giving brutally honest, but truthful,  bad news,

He's more like a shitty doctor who botches an unnecessary surgery and then is overly brutally honest about the bad news. He could have just not said peep, slunk back into obscurity after being famously outed as Not Satoshi. But no. He had to press his ego on the crypto world and now his #1 pet project is down over 50% in 7 days because of it.
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CSW is like a medical doctor with catastrophically awful bedside manner giving brutally honest, but truthful,  bad news,

He's more like a shitty doctor who botches an unnecessary surgery and then is overly brutally honest about the bad news. He could have just not said peep, slunk back into obscurity after being famously outed as Not Satoshi. But no. He had to press his ego on the crypto world and now his #1 pet project is down over 50% in 7 days because of it.

If miners process transactions on the blockchain that are involved in illegal activities, and this is clearly visible, then they are at risk

It is far better if miners never know what any particular tx is for, otherwise, CSW's warning is valid, miners could be legally liable for KNOWINGLY facilitating illegal activities by processing tx into a block where the purpose is illegal, and this can be seen in the op code. Nothing really to do with CSW personally, or ethics, just legal realities of the world we live in today.

disclaimer: CSW is a dick, I agree!
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November 20, 2018, 04:38:28 AM
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The war of superiority Roll Eyes i hope in the very end or at least, at some point there emerged a winner 🏆, otherwise, this is just senseless war with baseless meanings to the majority of the crypto community,   annnd bch, what purpose those it serve Undecided     hahhhhh suddenly satoshi has finally revealed himself Grin.    I need a breath of fresh air Wink
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November 20, 2018, 05:02:49 AM
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What a tragedy Roger.-
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November 20, 2018, 05:23:19 AM
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Hows the btrash price working out for ya..your shitcoin going way down

btc is also heading down, it is below $4700 at the time of this post.
So by your definition btc is now a shitcoin.   Wink

What will be interesting is if the BCH War ends up killing btc instead of the bch forks.   Smiley

btc drops below $2000 and it's miners may give up, this would kill the btc /segwit network.




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November 20, 2018, 05:26:28 AM
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What a tragedy Roger.-
This is what happens when people stand above a greater good. Why did not they promote those improvements, discussions and interests in the core? Was this forks game needed? Anyway, I'm going to make money on top of you, thanks Judas, CSWrong and others. Grin
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November 20, 2018, 05:27:27 AM
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Hows the btrash price working out for ya..your shitcoin going way down

btc is also heading down, it is below $4700 at the time of this post.
So by your definition btc is now a shitcoin.   Wink

Bitcoin is the biggest shitcoin ever made besides all other coins.

What will be interesting is if the BCH War ends up killing btc instead of the bch forks.   Smiley

What you're advocating is suicide. BCH is inexorably linked with BTC and cannot thrive if BTC doesn't thrive. If BTC dies, everything else dies along with it. At least for the next few/several years.
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November 20, 2018, 05:31:03 AM
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What you're advocating is suicide. BCH is inexorably linked with BTC and cannot thrive if BTC doesn't thrive. If BTC dies, everything else dies along with it. At least for the next few/several years.

Sorry the altcoins need BTC is bullshit,  btc could die tomorrow and crypto will go on.

A New #1 coin would sit at the top of cmk and life goes on.  Smiley

No different than if a king or queen or favorite political leader dies, you pick a new one and life goes on.





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November 20, 2018, 05:43:36 AM
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What you're advocating is suicide. BCH is inexorably linked with BTC and cannot thrive if BTC doesn't thrive. If BTC dies, everything else dies along with it. At least for the next few/several years.

Sorry the altcoins need BTC is bullshit,  btc could die tomorrow and crypto will go on.

A New #1 coin would sit at the top of cmk and life goes on.  Smiley

It's literally never happened. It's literally never come close to happening. On June 14th, 2017, Ethereum had 31% of the total coin market cap compared to bitcoin's 38%. That was the closest a coin has ever come to surpassing BTC.

But I mean this thread is full of the delusions of the strong-ego'd and hopelessly misinformed, so, carry on.

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November 20, 2018, 05:55:42 AM
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What you're advocating is suicide. BCH is inexorably linked with BTC and cannot thrive if BTC doesn't thrive. If BTC dies, everything else dies along with it. At least for the next few/several years.

Sorry the altcoins need BTC is bullshit,  btc could die tomorrow and crypto will go on.

A New #1 coin would sit at the top of cmk and life goes on.  Smiley

It's literally never happened. It's literally never come close to happening. On June 14th, 2017, Ethereum had 31% of the total coin market cap compared to bitcoin's 38%. That was the closest a coin has ever come to surpassing BTC.

But I mean this thread is full of the delusions of the strong-ego'd and hopelessly misinformed, so, carry on.

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Ethereum is dying faster than btc , it was already unprofitable to mine before the drop.
Ethereum will not outlast btc.

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November 20, 2018, 06:07:31 AM
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This was a foolish fork from the beginning that should have never been supported. Now you have crashed the entire market due to child like pettiness. I say we should all demand that top exchanges drop both forks or we will no longer patronize them.
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