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August 29, 2017, 06:48:23 PM
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what time does livecoin open the ico?
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August 29, 2017, 06:50:50 PM
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what time does livecoin open the ico?

6PM GMT on September 1


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August 29, 2017, 06:52:50 PM
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so 2pm est. thanks Smiley

just a suggestion put a timer on your website for it
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August 29, 2017, 07:39:37 PM
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We have reached our thunderclap campaign target 3 days before the deadline! Thank you all!

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August 29, 2017, 08:09:55 PM
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Nope, he's not explained anything at all, that I wouldn't already know from the website or the topic.
Okay, there are 3 names of the team members on the website, and there are also 2 nicknames of the guys from CET who provide escrow, but for all I know, "Ronald B. Sao", "Deepak Kumar" and "Catherine Oliver" may be non-existent.

I agree that nobody owes me any links, but tell me one good reason not to post them, that would outweigh the positive confidence buildup within community?

Yes, this is one of the measures of judging crypto - to know who the team is, to see what is their past experience and record. And they aren't only mine, there is a good topic on red flags in ICO here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2109970.0

Thanks for the advice to stick to traditional forms of investments, but I think this advice is more appropriate for the people who don't research ICO enough and may end up broke after investing in a scam.

You're not wrong, but the fact is LinkedIn profiles can also be made up, or scammers can list the profiles of people who in real life have never heard of the ICO in question. Every ICO, short of, like, the brainchild of Vitalik Buterin and Da Hongfei, carries quite a bit of risk, and anyone who spends money on them that they can't afford is asking for trouble. You take a risk, and maybe you get rewarded or maybe you lose it all.

But more importantly, what are the incentives for a scammer? If the goal is to take the money and run, there are easier ways of doing it than the path WiC has been on (30+ pages on the original thread this spring, and now almost 90 on this one, active engagement with the community, partnerships with livecoin and reputable escrow-ers, etc.). You're unlikely to go through all that if you don't even plan to send out tokens. And if you do send out tokens, you might as well follow through with the idea at least far enough to pump the thing and get even more $$ out of it. In the latter case, ICO participants likely also do well.

The point is probably 1 ICO in 100 actually succeeds in the bigger picture, but from the perspective of the investor, ICOs are more about short-term profit than they are about finding the next ETH. With that in mind, the standards for judging the merits of an ICO change somewhat. It's less about 'will this really succeed?' and more about 'will this appeal to the extremely Lambo-obsessed crypto community enough to capture their attention and spike in value after release?".
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August 29, 2017, 10:02:30 PM
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You're not wrong, but the fact is LinkedIn profiles can also be made up, or scammers can list the profiles of people who in real life have never heard of the ICO in question. Every ICO, short of, like, the brainchild of Vitalik Buterin and Da Hongfei, carries quite a bit of risk, and anyone who spends money on them that they can't afford is asking for trouble. You take a risk, and maybe you get rewarded or maybe you lose it all.

But more importantly, what are the incentives for a scammer? If the goal is to take the money and run, there are easier ways of doing it than the path WiC has been on (30+ pages on the original thread this spring, and now almost 90 on this one, active engagement with the community, partnerships with livecoin and reputable escrow-ers, etc.). You're unlikely to go through all that if you don't even plan to send out tokens. And if you do send out tokens, you might as well follow through with the idea at least far enough to pump the thing and get even more $$ out of it. In the latter case, ICO participants likely also do well.

The point is probably 1 ICO in 100 actually succeeds in the bigger picture, but from the perspective of the investor, ICOs are more about short-term profit than they are about finding the next ETH. With that in mind, the standards for judging the merits of an ICO change somewhat. It's less about 'will this really succeed?' and more about 'will this appeal to the extremely Lambo-obsessed crypto community enough to capture their attention and spike in value after release?".
I apologize for going offtopic in advance, but I feel our conversation may be of some use for other forum members.

I agree that any ICO is a risk, then it's up to you how do you choose to mitigate the risk and maximize success when making the decision whether to participate - this is what I'm mostly ranting about.

The incentives for a would-be-scammer are money from ICO, and I think there are plenty. Note that I'm not saying CryptoWi is a scam and I'll be happy if in a couple of years I can walk streets of, say, Madrid, as a tourist, while enjoying Wi-Fi access through CryptoWi app. But still.

Possibly, we assess the effort and costs differently, but lets look what we have:
1) thread for 130 pages on the forum where someone would post news, answer questions etc
2) create, host, maintain a website (without any complex functionality and amateurish-looking, to be honest)
3) develop "application prototype" shown on videos
4) maintain telegram channel/facebook page
5) promote on steemit, medium, icolert, some other crypto media sites?
6) escrow
anything else I missed?
My estimate for pp.1-4 is more than $50k. I dont know how much p.5 and 6 cost, but I doubt the total would exceed $200k. Even if I'm wrong and underestimating the costs for 2-3 times, there is still plenty of incentive, and I'm not aware of an easier way of doing a million dollars in a few months (pls PM me if you do Smiley )

As for the ICO model you've described - I understood it as a pyramid. Get tokens earlier, sell them later to someone else for inflated price, move on. So yeah, as in any pyramid, some people will make money.

But how do you think, would this make more people put more trust into ICOs/crypto as a whole?
Wouldn't it actually harm the crypto industry (still in its puberty, if not childhood) if there are two projects on the similar topic, but one of them is a pyramid?
Would scams cause more attention and regulation attempts from the government?
I agree that very little percentage of ICOs are successful projects - basically, as any startups - but by participating in pyramid-like ICOs we ourselves are making this percentage even smaller, aren't we?

So, however naive and pompously this may sound, I'm all for investing only in the projects that wouldn't consider a pyramid, to ultimately help mass adoption of crypto and personal gain, rather than personal gain alone.
Thanks for reading this, apologies for offtopic once again, and sorry for any mistakes in my English.
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August 29, 2017, 10:31:58 PM
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Hey, thanks for all the comments above and I appreciate all of your thoughts but let's keep the thread to discuss WiC from now on forward.

Thanks again!
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August 29, 2017, 10:40:43 PM
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Contribution Stats:

$ value contributed: $585,264.53
Number of participants: 479
Average contribution: 1,221.84

Amount remaining in Stage 4 = $74,735.47
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August 29, 2017, 11:00:24 PM
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Less than 2 days remaining for the presale.

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August 30, 2017, 04:54:35 AM
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Hi,

Forgive me if already unanswered, but how/when will tokens be sent to my ETH address?

Thanks!

Hey, tokens will be distributed after the token sale is completed.

lol this is even in the confirmation email  Cheesy why dont people read it haha

Dear kashish948,

Thanks for your pertinent comment!

The confirmation email doesn't seem to be automatic (or at least it was delayed for me) so I received the confirmation email after I posted this question. Pardon me for wondering WTF was going on.

Also, it was unclear to me if they would be distributed after pre-sale wave 4, after whole pre-sale or after whole-presale inc. ICO. I now have the answer: "Hey, it means when the entire token sale is over which is on October 15 if we do not sell out earlier."

Hope this can help anyone...  but I know this won't be of any help to you smart kashish948.








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August 30, 2017, 06:26:01 AM
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Hello, I cant get apps from Android and Iphone in Malaysia, how about other countries please?
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August 30, 2017, 07:17:37 AM
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Hello, I cant get apps from Android and Iphone in Malaysia, how about other countries please?
It maybe available into some part of asia  i mean tourist and business district are the most profitable when setting up WiC, asia is one of the most visited places on earth.
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August 30, 2017, 08:08:34 AM
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joined signature campaign and social media, i hope this project will successfull to the end, token sold out. i support you
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August 30, 2017, 08:26:02 AM
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Hello, I cant get apps from Android and Iphone in Malaysia, how about other countries please?

The app will be released after the token sale is over.
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August 30, 2017, 08:30:25 AM
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There will not be any problem of reaching at maximum cap of $1.48 millions as already in this round 39.5% of the total target has been acquired successfully. I assume that next round which is ICO will be more speedy to bring the remaining money to reach at that maximum.
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August 30, 2017, 09:34:11 AM
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I have changed rank and I am now a Full Member , can you please update spreadsheet in the signature campaign?
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August 30, 2017, 11:15:11 AM
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I have changed rank and I am now a Full Member , can you please update spreadsheet in the signature campaign?
pls how do you change your rank?

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August 30, 2017, 11:19:38 AM
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WiC ticket now appears in my Livecoin account.

But when and how they will rate it?
- From September 1 or after end of ICO?
- They (Livecoin) will sell it as agent by fixed price (from Sep. 01 and before ICO's end)? And will show it as market's price?
  Or it will be market's rated real price?

Or maybe we will wait until end of ICO, token's distribution to wallets and real sales by real people?

Sorry for this unreadable English, but I try to be as clear as possible...

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August 30, 2017, 11:24:25 AM
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Hello, I cant get apps from Android and Iphone in Malaysia, how about other countries please?

The app will be released after the token sale is over.

Their whitepaper's roadmap never mentioned?
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August 30, 2017, 11:40:52 AM
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WiC ticket now appears in my Livecoin account.

But when and how they will rate it?
- From September 1 or after end of ICO?
- They (Livecoin) will sell it as agent by fixed price (from Sep. 01 and before ICO's end)? And will show it as market's price?
  Or it will be market's rated real price?

Or maybe we will wait until end of ICO, token's distribution to wallets and real sales by real people?

Sorry for this unreadable English, but I try to be as clear as possible...
livecoin.net will sell WiC at the ico price during the ico so when the ico is over real trading will begin a day or two after the ico

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