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[Getmon]

This token was on a big exchange - Okex, but was delisted from there due to small trading volumes.
Listing itself on big exchange will not do anything.
Neded a working product, then there will be a demand for a token.

I agree. Even if ATL is listed in all of the major exchanges, for as long as it remained stagnant just like this project is doing, it will be of no value. Okex is huge but the project and the team are not. Delisting is inevitable, causing it much harder for the few interested investors to have access to the coin.

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[Distinctin]

This token was on a big exchange - Okex, but was delisted from there due to small trading volumes.
Listing itself on big exchange will not do anything.
Neded a working product, then there will be a demand for a token.

I agree. Even if ATL is listed in all of the major exchanges, for as long as it remained stagnant just like this project is doing, it will be of no value. Okex is huge but the project and the team are not. Delisting is inevitable, causing it much harder for the few interested investors to have access to the coin.

If they want to buy, they can buy it at hitbtc, this is a good site, it has a volume also.
Exchanges are not only the main problem here, the team needs to step up big, they need to deliver and make some hype for this coin to be bought.

We have Okex before but I'm not fan of this site, I like Binance more as they know how to pump a coin.

[andreibi]

Most of you look from the trader's point of view. If you look through the developer's lens, no one can control their coins' free market price or the demand for coin listing. It's up to exchanges and the buyers.

They can only do what they can do which is to build and market. So far, Atlant said the coding is almost finished but government regulation is a stumbling block. And you can't promote something not yet available.

[btcyoda]

This token was on a big exchange - Okex, but was delisted from there due to small trading volumes.
Listing itself on big exchange will not do anything.
Neded a working product, then there will be a demand for a token.

Yes, because the listings will only be useless if no one wants to trade this token as it was already successful in such ico but failed to give what investors are looking for. If atlant will make a good product or updates of progress like starting on their overall plans in real estate they can have a good trading volume even in a small exchange. The productivity is always better to see than in a exchange with no interest.

I agree, atlant team should make a move to improve their product to attract more investors. Atlant listed in some exchange but still no demand that makes others to buy this token. This will a big hit once they will show a good product indeed.

Exactly, this is the best time for them to show their credibility in the market because slowly the market is moving in a positive direction so it is a very good chance for them to show their credibility which will help them for the community.

[bestcoins1]

Most of you look from the trader's point of view. If you look through the developer's lens, no one can control their coins' free market price or the demand for coin listing. It's up to exchanges and the buyers.

They can only do what they can do which is to build and market. So far, Atlant said the coding is almost finished but government regulation is a stumbling block. And you can't promote something not yet available.

So how long is it stuck here, is there no other option ?
ATLANT is actually a potential project unfortunately there is no progress in the market

[crypto mania]

I have a break from this thread for almost 3 months and I see that situation hasn't changed at all. Sorry, there is a change and ATL token was delisted from great exchange Okex which is a shame because such an opportunity to be listed in good exchange like Okex will never come back again especially without visible progress.
There are still no rentals which should be ready just after ICO  .
This is the true and actual state of Atlant project. I fill sorry for investors because there is no progress, the token was delisted, no volume, the price is falling and the only thing what we are told is: "we are waiting for the licenses" which can last forever.
This is the end for me in Atlant project. I have sold my holdings and invested in other projects. Just after I did it crypto market turned green and I almost tripled my money. I would have hold ATL token I will lose another 30% of value. I think this is no brainer for an average investor and everybody will stay away until they finally have some product.

[andreibi]

Most of you look from the trader's point of view. If you look through the developer's lens, no one can control their coins' free market price or the demand for coin listing. It's up to exchanges and the buyers.

They can only do what they can do which is to build and market. So far, Atlant said the coding is almost finished but government regulation is a stumbling block. And you can't promote something not yet available.

So how long is it stuck here, is there no other option ?
ATLANT is actually a potential project unfortunately there is no progress in the market

There you go. Market is irrevelant to a project's progress. Financial capital and human resources are the important aspects to watch for. There should be enough funding and developers to move a project.

Like I said, approval from government is needed or you could skirt the law and do it outside its jurisdiction and risk being punished later on.

[zahidmoon]

Most of you look from the trader's point of view. If you look through the developer's lens, no one can control their coins' free market price or the demand for coin listing. It's up to exchanges and the buyers.

They can only do what they can do which is to build and market. So far, Atlant said the coding is almost finished but government regulation is a stumbling block. And you can't promote something not yet available.

So how long is it stuck here, is there no other option ?
ATLANT is actually a potential project unfortunately there is no progress in the market

There you go. Market is irrevelant to a project's progress. Financial capital and human resources are the important aspects to watch for. There should be enough funding and developers to move a project.

Like I said, approval from government is needed or you could skirt the law and do it outside its jurisdiction and risk being punished later on.

market is going upward now and it looks good from the April fool day. but still the new project specially real estate project are still look for buy support
when i last check atlant price was 500 sat and now its below from that. price should be stable in BTC/ATL pair.
approval of govt is the first priority without it project progress is not possible

[wwzsocki]

This is the end for me in Atlant project. I have sold my holdings and invested in other projects. Just after I did it crypto market turned green and I almost tripled my money. I would have hold ATL token I will lose another 30% of value...

Again the price dropped very hard today. I see a change of -50% for ATL token only today and the entire week price was dropping despite the market was green and many alts gained 100 or more percent. We can clearly see there are no new investors interested in Atlant and holders (like me) have enough and dump their holdings to invest in better performing altcoins. This is not surprising and I thought that will happen a lot faster.

There is no product, no roadmap, nothing. All we have is a demo which is not enough even for toughest believers to stay. I don't see any talks in Telegram and when people ask for licenses the only answer they get is "we can't disclose any information".  We can easily assume that price will be falling further and is already too late to abandon the ship so all holders will sink together with the team.

Finally, Atlant token will be delisted from HitBtc and that would be the end of the story. Only 6 to 12 months that is all that it would take. I will come back here and quote myself at this time to confirm my prediction which is harsh but this is the reality, sorry. I was truly a supporter but there are too many red flags now and the price shows the real value of this project.

Even one big investor not left and new once run away when they see what is going on. I tried to convince one big fish a few months ago when we were discussing projects. At the start when he heard about Atlant and what it is all about he was very enthusiastic and jumped into research. After few days he laughs me in the face and said that he is an investor, not a gambler and even if he would be a gambler he will never invest because there are no chances for Atlant to be successful and finally start a working product. The product would be already ready and used even without licenses as a prelaunch or something to gain investors by showing real value.

Atlant team is taking a nice salary each month, travel the world, visit conferences and take their time to build a perfect product as they say. One day that money from ICO will be over and this will be the end of Atlant.

[Getmon]

This is the end for me in Atlant project. I have sold my holdings and invested in other projects. Just after I did it crypto market turned green and I almost tripled my money. I would have hold ATL token I will lose another 30% of value...

Again the price dropped very hard today. I see a change of -50% for ATL token only today and the entire week price was dropping despite the market was green and many alts gained 100 or more percent. We can clearly see there are no new investors interested in Atlant and holders (like me) have enough and dump their holdings to invest in better performing altcoins. This is not surprising and I thought that will happen a lot faster.

There is no product, no roadmap, nothing. All we have is a demo which is not enough even for toughest believers to stay. I don't see any talks in Telegram and when people ask for licenses the only answer they get is "we can't disclose any information".  We can easily assume that price will be falling further and is already too late to abandon the ship so all holders will sink together with the team.

Finally, Atlant token will be delisted from HitBtc and that would be the end of the story. Only 6 to 12 months that is all that it would take. I will come back here and quote myself at this time to confirm my prediction which is harsh but this is the reality, sorry. I was truly a supporter but there are too many red flags now and the price shows the real value of this project.

Even one big investor not left and new once run away when they see what is going on. I tried to convince one big fish a few months ago when we were discussing projects. At the start when he heard about Atlant and what it is all about he was very enthusiastic and jumped into research. After few days he laughs me in the face and said that he is an investor, not a gambler and even if he would be a gambler he will never invest because there are no chances for Atlant to be successful and finally start a working product. The product would be already ready and used even without licenses as a prelaunch or something to gain investors by showing real value.

Atlant team is taking a nice salary each month, travel the world, visit conferences and take their time to build a perfect product as they say. One day that money from ICO will be over and this will be the end of Atlant.

Then they will just announce that the rest of the bounty will only be given to those who will deposit an additional 5 ETH. They're good at it. At least their travel funds and salaries will continue flowing. LOL!

[Assembler]

And what did you expect people? in 21 months they have not done anything, just spend the ICO money and ask for more money.

[Apened]

This is the end for me in Atlant project. I have sold my holdings and invested in other projects. Just after I did it crypto market turned green and I almost tripled my money. I would have hold ATL token I will lose another 30% of value...

Again the price dropped very hard today. I see a change of -50% for ATL token only today and the entire week price was dropping despite the market was green and many alts gained 100 or more percent. We can clearly see there are no new investors interested in Atlant and holders (like me) have enough and dump their holdings to invest in better performing altcoins. This is not surprising and I thought that will happen a lot faster.

There is no product, no roadmap, nothing. All we have is a demo which is not enough even for toughest believers to stay. I don't see any talks in Telegram and when people ask for licenses the only answer they get is "we can't disclose any information".  We can easily assume that price will be falling further and is already too late to abandon the ship so all holders will sink together with the team.

Finally, Atlant token will be delisted from HitBtc and that would be the end of the story. Only 6 to 12 months that is all that it would take. I will come back here and quote myself at this time to confirm my prediction which is harsh but this is the reality, sorry. I was truly a supporter but there are too many red flags now and the price shows the real value of this project.

Even one big investor not left and new once run away when they see what is going on. I tried to convince one big fish a few months ago when we were discussing projects. At the start when he heard about Atlant and what it is all about he was very enthusiastic and jumped into research. After few days he laughs me in the face and said that he is an investor, not a gambler and even if he would be a gambler he will never invest because there are no chances for Atlant to be successful and finally start a working product. The product would be already ready and used even without licenses as a prelaunch or something to gain investors by showing real value.

Atlant team is taking a nice salary each month, travel the world, visit conferences and take their time to build a perfect product as they say. One day that money from ICO will be over and this will be the end of Atlant.

Then they will just announce that the rest of the bounty will only be given to those who will deposit an additional 5 ETH. They're good at it. At least their travel funds and salaries will continue flowing. LOL!

Seriously? i've heard about that and probably read somewhere in some of my colleagues. But, i never know that they are asking for that amount to receive the rest of their bounty. What a project isn't it, they have raised huge amount and asking more its seems like the intention is for them to ask for money. Honestly, if that's how they used to be i don't trust this atlant anymore.

[Assembler]

Yes @Apened, seriously.

[zahidmoon]

This is the end for me in Atlant project. I have sold my holdings and invested in other projects. Just after I did it crypto market turned green and I almost tripled my money. I would have hold ATL token I will lose another 30% of value...

Again the price dropped very hard today. I see a change of -50% for ATL token only today and the entire week price was dropping despite the market was green and many alts gained 100 or more percent. We can clearly see there are no new investors interested in Atlant and holders (like me) have enough and dump their holdings to invest in better performing altcoins. This is not surprising and I thought that will happen a lot faster.

There is no product, no roadmap, nothing. All we have is a demo which is not enough even for toughest believers to stay. I don't see any talks in Telegram and when people ask for licenses the only answer they get is "we can't disclose any information".  We can easily assume that price will be falling further and is already too late to abandon the ship so all holders will sink together with the team.

Finally, Atlant token will be delisted from HitBtc and that would be the end of the story. Only 6 to 12 months that is all that it would take. I will come back here and quote myself at this time to confirm my prediction which is harsh but this is the reality, sorry. I was truly a supporter but there are too many red flags now and the price shows the real value of this project.

Even one big investor not left and new once run away when they see what is going on. I tried to convince one big fish a few months ago when we were discussing projects. At the start when he heard about Atlant and what it is all about he was very enthusiastic and jumped into research. After few days he laughs me in the face and said that he is an investor, not a gambler and even if he would be a gambler he will never invest because there are no chances for Atlant to be successful and finally start a working product. The product would be already ready and used even without licenses as a prelaunch or something to gain investors by showing real value.

Atlant team is taking a nice salary each month, travel the world, visit conferences and take their time to build a perfect product as they say. One day that money from ICO will be over and this will be the end of Atlant.

Then they will just announce that the rest of the bounty will only be given to those who will deposit an additional 5 ETH. They're good at it. At least their travel funds and salaries will continue flowing. LOL!

Seriously? i've heard about that and probably read somewhere in some of my colleagues. But, i never know that they are asking for that amount to receive the rest of their bounty. What a project isn't it, they have raised huge amount and asking more its seems like the intention is for them to ask for money. Honestly, if that's how they used to be i don't trust this atlant anymore.

you know know this is old news and i think its implemented from jan 2019. without out kyc confirmation bounty hunters not allowed to receive any monthly payments and kyc will not confirm until bounty participant pay eth with kyc form submission.
atlant toekn price is falling 

[wwzsocki]

This is the end for me in Atlant project. I have sold my holdings and invested in other projects. Just after I did it crypto market turned green and I almost tripled my money. I would have hold ATL token I will lose another 30% of value...

...Atlant team is taking a nice salary each month, travel the world, visit conferences and take their time to build a perfect product as they say. One day that money from ICO will be over and this will be the end of Atlant.

Then they will just announce that the rest of the bounty will only be given to those who will deposit an additional 5 ETH. They're good at it. At least their travel funds and salaries will continue flowing. LOL!

Seriously? i've heard about that and probably read somewhere in some of my colleagues. But, i never know that they are asking for that amount to receive the rest of their bounty. What a project isn't it, they have raised huge amount and asking more its seems like the intention is for them to ask for money. Honestly, if that's how they used to be i don't trust this atlant anymore.

you know know this is old news and i think its implemented from jan 2019. without out kyc confirmation bounty hunters not allowed to receive any monthly payments and kyc will not confirm until bounty participant pay eth with kyc form submission.
atlant toekn price is falling  

This starts to be hilarious. Atlant doesn't disclose their members anymore and when asked multiple time for detailed team members count and other information they said that some of them are available on Linkedin but never disclose links or details. I had a lot of doubts and I wish to be wrong. Despite everything, I have never lost a cent on Atlant and even made a nice profit so this is not an angry ATH investor point of few only just a simple reaction from a community member to warn others because multiple additional red flags emerged lately. The team has been taken off from the Atlant pages and all additional information on the web and there is no way to know this despite was one of the most important things when investors where evaluating Atlant ICO. Sometimes because of team members involved ICO's where sold for millions in a matter of seconds but Atlant is after ICO and don't need this anymore. They even don't need exchanges and when Okex delisted ATL token there where no sign of comments or rhetorics just after from the team. Seems like the loss of one of best exchanges doesn't matter to the Atlant team. Is obvious that they don't give an F...K about investors. Just look what they did to bounty hunters and how they treat us today.

[RobertStadler]

We encourage sensible Atlant community members to beware the fud and take into account only tangible progress made by Atlant team. We have released bounty funds as we were supposed to. Substantial headway has been made - releasing tokenization platform beta both on web (https://trade.atlant.io/) and Android (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.atlant.trade), together with ATLANT wallet (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.atlant.wallet). Our team got the ERC-1462 Security Token standard accepted as a working draft for security tokens by the Ethereum Foundation (https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-1462) and released Ethereum Playbook as a simple alternative to Truffle Framework (https://blog.atlant.io/atlant-releases-ethereum-playbook-294b22273069). As opposed to baseless accusations, resources provided above speak for themselves.

The team keeps working on both p2p rentals and tokenization platform, with p2p rentals beta expected to be rolled out in Q2. Tokenization platform is fully functional - pending the licensing approval, which is extremely robust. However we're very confident to wrap up regulatory framework soon enough and start tokenizing real estates straight away. With capital markets being one of the most regulated industries out there, it's not an easy and straightforward job to do. We invite every genuine community member to join our official telegram group (https://t.me/atlant_eng) to stay up to date with the progress and ask any relevant questions - our team will gladly answer.

Thank you for your continuous support.

[wwzsocki]

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Show me the working product then I will believe in these explanations.

Why there is only a demo?

Release full version to attract investors when we are waiting for licenses what are you waiting for?

Or maybe the price has not dropped enough?

[RobertStadler]

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Show me the working product then I will believe in these explanations.

Why there is only a demo?

Release full version to attract investors when we are waiting for licenses what are you waiting for?

Or maybe the price has not dropped enough?

Current demo is technically a working product, only without actual listings, as there is no license yet. Once we obtain the license and can start operating, there won't be substantial changes to what you can see now in a demo version. If the current demo doesn't tell you how much development efforts have been put into the project, I'm afraid nothing else will.

[wwzsocki]

...Once we obtain the license and can start operating, there won't be substantial changes to what you can see now in a demo version. If the current demo doesn't tell you how much development efforts have been put into the project, I'm afraid nothing else will.

Thanks for the answer.

I see you are using the word "WE" in your text. Are you an official member of the Atlant team?

[andreibi]

...Once we obtain the license and can start operating, there won't be substantial changes to what you can see now in a demo version. If the current demo doesn't tell you how much development efforts have been put into the project, I'm afraid nothing else will.

Thanks for the answer.

I see you are using the word "WE" in your text. Are you an official member of the Atlant team?

I don't know if he's an official member of the Atlant team. These people have a hard time following some unwritten security protocols of crypto to prevent phishing attempts. But he clearly posts 100% about Atlant development. I don't think anybody outside the team would be a super fanboy.