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August 07, 2017, 08:31:57 PM |
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Even more claiming bcc/bch through desktop or hardware wallet is so risky as their are scam wallets which steals your btc when you download the bch/bcc wallet and try to claim the free bch/bcc.
My Trezor worked great, just a couple days late. They programmed in a "sweep", so all transaction history prior to Aug 1 12:20, was compressed into one. It looks like I've only received one transaction instead of the entire history. Pretty good for reducing Unspent Transaction Outputs.
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August 07, 2017, 08:46:43 PM |
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Even more claiming bcc/bch through desktop or hardware wallet is so risky as their are scam wallets which steals your btc when you download the bch/bcc wallet and try to claim the free bch/bcc.
My Trezor worked great, just a couple days late. They programmed in a "sweep", so all transaction history prior to Aug 1 12:20, was compressed into one. It looks like I've only received one transaction instead of the entire history. Pretty good for reducing Unspent Transaction Outputs. And there goes your privacy. You'll have no idea which unspent outputs are linked with which other ones when you start transacting BCH.
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August 07, 2017, 08:49:10 PM |
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What you're doing is not the safe way recommended on this thread. You should have sent your BTC to a new address or addresses. If the BCH wallet you're using is compromised, it can steal all your coins with the way you have proceeded.
Now about sending BCH at the same time as BTC, it's not possible, so there is no risk of that happening. It's like asking if you can make a single wire transfer with dollars and rubles, not going to happen.
So the 1st post in this thread states to do things in this order: 1. Create a new wallet 2. Send all your BTC to this new wallet 3. On a separate computer, install a BCash wallet and import keys from your original, now empty, BTC wallet So that is pretty much what I did, only I did step 3 before moving my BTC to the new wallet. I'm now working on steps 1 and 2. The reason I'm doing steps 1 and 2 is that I understand there would otherwise be a risk of loosing my BTC balance when I transact my BCC since they both share the same keys. All 3 computers are on my local LAN with a gateway/firewall to the outside and all the wallets are encrypted.
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August 07, 2017, 08:50:13 PM |
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Case in point!
Nice catch, @NxtChg
You're new to the Internet? Do your own damn due diligence instead of listening to the ravings of a lunatic... ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) The wallet is open source, it can be run locally, it doesn't send _anything_ to my server. So yeah, nice catch, numnuts. die in a fire NxtChg, your shit is well known
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This is not some pseudoeconomic post-modern Libertarian cult, it's an un-led, crowd-sourced mega startup organized around mutual self-interest where problems, whether of the theoretical or purely practical variety, are treated as temporary and, ultimately, solvable. Censorship of e-gold was easy. Censorship of Bitcoin will be… entertaining.
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August 07, 2017, 09:05:40 PM |
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Thank you
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August 07, 2017, 09:20:14 PM |
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Case in point!
Nice catch, @NxtChg
You're new to the Internet? Do your own damn due diligence instead of listening to the ravings of a lunatic... ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) The wallet is open source, it can be run locally, it doesn't send _anything_ to my server. So yeah, nice catch, numnuts. die in a fire NxtChg, your shit is well known & he can't spell "numbnuts." ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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aesma
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August 07, 2017, 09:35:09 PM |
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What you're doing is not the safe way recommended on this thread. You should have sent your BTC to a new address or addresses. If the BCH wallet you're using is compromised, it can steal all your coins with the way you have proceeded.
Now about sending BCH at the same time as BTC, it's not possible, so there is no risk of that happening. It's like asking if you can make a single wire transfer with dollars and rubles, not going to happen.
So the 1st post in this thread states to do things in this order: 1. Create a new wallet 2. Send all your BTC to this new wallet 3. On a separate computer, install a BCash wallet and import keys from your original, now empty, BTC wallet So that is pretty much what I did, only I did step 3 before moving my BTC to the new wallet. I'm now working on steps 1 and 2. The reason I'm doing steps 1 and 2 is that I understand there would otherwise be a risk of loosing my BTC balance when I transact my BCC since they both share the same keys. All 3 computers are on my local LAN with a gateway/firewall to the outside and all the wallets are encrypted. That's not the risk at all. The risk is that you have given a private key (wallet.dat in your case) full of BTC to an untrusted piece of software. You can still correct this, if your funds haven't been stolen, by sending now your BTC to a new address.
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crazydane
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August 07, 2017, 10:18:47 PM |
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That's not the risk at all. The risk is that you have given a private key (wallet.dat in your case) full of BTC to an untrusted piece of software.
You can still correct this, if your funds haven't been stolen, by sending now your BTC to a new address.
So Bitcoin ABC Wallet is untrusted? I downloaded it directly from https://www.bitcoinabc.org The look and feel is identical to Bitcoin Core.
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August 07, 2017, 11:15:20 PM |
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Hi everyone !
1st August my coins were on a multisig Copay Wallet. I would like to get my BCH.
The problem is for one of my 2 private keys when I put it in Electron, it gives me a different public key and shows no coin. If I put the public keys in "just watch" mode I can see my coins... I think its linked to the fact the copay is Bip44 and electron Bip39. It is the same problem with the seed (mnemotechnic).
Does anyone have a solution ?
For the other key, it's not working if I put the private directly, but its working with the seed (public address shows by electron is the good one). Strange thing, the key which is not working is in French with é (accentuation).
If anyone can help me it will be welcolm Cheesy
Thanks a lot !
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August 07, 2017, 11:38:04 PM |
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That's not the risk at all. The risk is that you have given a private key (wallet.dat in your case) full of BTC to an untrusted piece of software.
You can still correct this, if your funds haven't been stolen, by sending now your BTC to a new address.
So Bitcoin ABC Wallet is untrusted? I downloaded it directly from https://www.bitcoinabc.org The look and feel is identical to Bitcoin Core. Bitcoin ABC client gets code implemented by devs not related to Core, and thus can't be seen as equal to the Core client in terms of how solid it and well tested it is. They even removed the SegWit code. At the end of the day, it's all up to you whether or not you want to make use of it. Just make sure that you only import private keys that don't contain any Bitcoin value -- there is no need to expose yourself to unnecessary risks.
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August 08, 2017, 12:45:26 AM Last edit: August 08, 2017, 12:57:20 AM by JayJuanGee |
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What you're doing is not the safe way recommended on this thread. You should have sent your BTC to a new address or addresses. If the BCH wallet you're using is compromised, it can steal all your coins with the way you have proceeded.
Now about sending BCH at the same time as BTC, it's not possible, so there is no risk of that happening. It's like asking if you can make a single wire transfer with dollars and rubles, not going to happen.
So the 1st post in this thread states to do things in this order: 1. Create a new wallet 2. Send all your BTC to this new wallet 3. On a separate computer, install a BCash wallet and import keys from your original, now empty, BTC wallet So that is pretty much what I did, only I did step 3 before moving my BTC to the new wallet. I'm now working on steps 1 and 2. The reason I'm doing steps 1 and 2 is that I understand there would otherwise be a risk of loosing my BTC balance when I transact my BCC since they both share the same keys. All 3 computers are on my local LAN with a gateway/firewall to the outside and all the wallets are encrypted. That's not the risk at all. The risk is that you have given a private key (wallet.dat in your case) full of BTC to an untrusted piece of software. You can still correct this, if your funds haven't been stolen, by sending now your BTC to a new address. Correct me if I am wrong... In order to "correct" the jeopardy of the BTC, they have to be sent to a new address that is in a new wallet, and once the transaction has been sent (maybe a few confirmations, minimum) then the coins are safe in the new address, so long as they are in a new wallet and before they are potentially jeopardized by being unnecessarily exposed to questionable software as they remain in the old address and old wallet?
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1) Self-Custody is a right. There is no such thing as "non-custodial" or "un-hosted." 2) ESG, KYC & AML are attack-vectors on Bitcoin to be avoided or minimized. 3) How much alt (shit)coin diversification is necessary? if you are into Bitcoin, then 0%......if you cannot control your gambling, then perhaps limit your alt(shit)coin exposure to less than 10% of your bitcoin size...Put BTC here: bc1q49wt0ddnj07wzzp6z7affw9ven7fztyhevqu9k
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August 08, 2017, 02:12:35 AM |
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Does anyone know if there is a definitive list of bitcoin exchanges and wallets that are going to be distributing bitcoincash? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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August 08, 2017, 03:52:56 AM |
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Thank you for knowing that because many will know what will happen this August 1,
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August 08, 2017, 04:08:05 AM |
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Thank you for knowing that because many will know what will happen this August 1,
today is august 8th.
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August 08, 2017, 06:01:54 AM |
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Does anyone know if there is a definitive list of bitcoin exchanges and wallets that are going to be distributing bitcoincash? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Nothing is "definitive", but there is a website that lists exchanges and wallets. You been here? https://www.bitcoincash.org/
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1) Self-Custody is a right. There is no such thing as "non-custodial" or "un-hosted." 2) ESG, KYC & AML are attack-vectors on Bitcoin to be avoided or minimized. 3) How much alt (shit)coin diversification is necessary? if you are into Bitcoin, then 0%......if you cannot control your gambling, then perhaps limit your alt(shit)coin exposure to less than 10% of your bitcoin size...Put BTC here: bc1q49wt0ddnj07wzzp6z7affw9ven7fztyhevqu9k
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August 08, 2017, 07:15:58 AM |
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Does anyone know if there is a definitive list of bitcoin exchanges and wallets that are going to be distributing bitcoincash? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) What distribution? It's already over even If you add bitcoins into exchanges right now, you won't be credited BCH and If you are looking for exchanges that accept deposits with low amount of confirmation then I suggest HitBTC, and for a full list check CoinMarketCap as BitcoinCash official site seem to be outdated.
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August 08, 2017, 07:28:38 AM |
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Does anyone know if there is a definitive list of bitcoin exchanges and wallets that are going to be distributing bitcoincash? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The BCH distribution is over, it happened on August 1st circa 12:20 UCT. All participants will have now received the BCH if they were due any.
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August 08, 2017, 08:15:59 AM |
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Does anyone know if there is a definitive list of bitcoin exchanges and wallets that are going to be distributing bitcoincash? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) What distribution? It's already over even If you add bitcoins into exchanges right now, you won't be credited BCH and If you are looking for exchanges that accept deposits with low amount of confirmation then I suggest HitBTC, and for a full list check CoinMarketCap as BitcoinCash official site seem to be outdated. you can still claim with your local wallet, any privatekey that go through the fork and was holding bitcoin before it, i'm sure not everyone claimed his/her bitcoin cash yet
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August 08, 2017, 08:36:24 AM |
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does this apply for use with coinbase btc? it seems like its not splitting automatically?
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August 08, 2017, 08:59:48 AM |
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Hola qué tal amigos e tenido un gran problema en mi cartera ,he perdido la semilla y no se como restablecer cuando solo tengo mi contraseña y el código QR Alguien que pueda ayudarme porfavor Gracias
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