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August 15, 2017, 09:20:04 AM
 #1501

This is starting to feel like a social experiment.. The goal is to build our own movement without much interference of the DEV.
So if we succeed or not, imho it will all depend on the contributions of the people here in the movement.

Maybe we should start a slack channel or something, in this we can create the discussion spheres and grow . ..

How are sheep without a shepherd?) Voting, referendum, all this is good, but such questions and decision should be made by one person - the organizer, such as the number of participants.



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August 15, 2017, 09:20:53 AM
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This is starting to feel like a social experiment.. The goal is to build our own movement without much interference of the DEV.
So if we succeed or not, imho it will all depend on the contributions of the people here in the movement.

Maybe we should start a slack channel or something, in this we can create the discussion spheres and grow . ..

I believe you are right...
Maybe we should start discussing where we want to head to...
After all we are building from scratch and we must coordinate to give this movement the pulse to start right.

Consensus will achieve a day or another but i saw this in the spreadsheet :

First 0-100 Members: 0% bonus
First 100-500 Members: 0% bonus
First 500-1000 Members: 100% bonus

I really think this kind of vote is against the spirit of the DAO...


It is a legitimate vote though, nothing wrong with it. The majority decides, not a single person. If someone wants to vote for a 10000% bonus just for himself, he is free to do that, but nobody else will cast the same vote, so he in principle wasted his own vote.
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August 15, 2017, 09:24:43 AM
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Code:
Address must hold any amount above 0.01 ETH for an unspecified amount of time.

I signed up about a week ago and had no ETH in my wallet and I just saw this requirement yesterday and immediately put 0.01 ETH into my wallet. Does that still count if I did it late like now, won't I be disqualified or something?
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August 15, 2017, 09:24:54 AM
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This is starting to feel like a social experiment.. The goal is to build our own movement without much interference of the DEV.
So if we succeed or not, imho it will all depend on the contributions of the people here in the movement.

Maybe we should start a slack channel or something, in this we can create the discussion spheres and grow . ..

I believe you are right...
Maybe we should start discussing where we want to head to...
After all we are building from scratch and we must coordinate to give this movement the pulse to start right.

Consensus will achieve a day or another but i saw this in the spreadsheet :

First 0-100 Members: 0% bonus
First 100-500 Members: 0% bonus
First 500-1000 Members: 100% bonus

I really think this kind of vote is against the spirit of the DAO...


It is a legitimate vote though, nothing wrong with it. The majority decides, not a single person. If someone wants to vote for a 10000% bonus just for himself, he is free to do that, but nobody else will cast the same vote, so he in principle wasted his own vote.

I don't question the validity of this vote, just the mindset of the guy emmiting it...
Everybody have the right to vote whatever he wants, but i don't think it's smart to vote that kind of joke when you are applying to a organization where equity seems to be a goal...

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August 15, 2017, 10:22:27 AM
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Some more communication would be nice. I don't think people mind waiting a few more days, but at this point everything is very vague, what are the results of the votes, how many people, when will distribution happen, etc...

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August 15, 2017, 10:29:20 AM
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This is starting to feel like a social experiment.. The goal is to build our own movement without much interference of the DEV.
So if we succeed or not, imho it will all depend on the contributions of the people here in the movement.

Maybe we should start a slack channel or something, in this we can create the discussion spheres and grow . ..

I believe you are right...
Maybe we should start discussing where we want to head to...
After all we are building from scratch and we must coordinate to give this movement the pulse to start right.

Consensus will achieve a day or another but i saw this in the spreadsheet :

First 0-100 Members: 0% bonus
First 100-500 Members: 0% bonus
First 500-1000 Members: 100% bonus

I really think this kind of vote is against the spirit of the DAO...


It is a legitimate vote though, nothing wrong with it. The majority decides, not a single person. If someone wants to vote for a 10000% bonus just for himself, he is free to do that, but nobody else will cast the same vote, so he in principle wasted his own vote.

I don't question the validity of this vote, just the mindset of the guy emmiting it...
Everybody have the right to vote whatever he wants, but i don't think it's smart to vote that kind of joke when you are applying to a organization where equity seems to be a goal...

Airdrop Ending Date, Airdrop Maximum Participants Limit, Bonus distribution, etc. must take decision by the Dev or Dev team.  Otherwise, if decision power give to participants, they must suggest as per their personal benefit.

So Dev./Dev. Team must take their own decision and close this Airdrop as early as possible. And start concentration on promotion and listing on exchanges.
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August 15, 2017, 10:43:16 AM
 #1507

From what i have understood from the circus that is happening here, the first two votes have ended.

Shouldnt we be moving towards the distribution and a roadmap?

The memberlist should be complete together with the bonuses and the amount of founding members.

What is the next step and when ?

What about a discord/telegram/slack ?

What the fuck is going on?

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August 15, 2017, 10:53:00 AM
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This is starting to feel like a social experiment.. The goal is to build our own movement without much interference of the DEV.
So if we succeed or not, imho it will all depend on the contributions of the people here in the movement.

Maybe we should start a slack channel or something, in this we can create the discussion spheres and grow . ..

I believe you are right...
Maybe we should start discussing where we want to head to...
After all we are building from scratch and we must coordinate to give this movement the pulse to start right.

Consensus will achieve a day or another but i saw this in the spreadsheet :

First 0-100 Members: 0% bonus
First 100-500 Members: 0% bonus
First 500-1000 Members: 100% bonus

I really think this kind of vote is against the spirit of the DAO...


It is a legitimate vote though, nothing wrong with it. The majority decides, not a single person. If someone wants to vote for a 10000% bonus just for himself, he is free to do that, but nobody else will cast the same vote, so he in principle wasted his own vote.

I don't question the validity of this vote, just the mindset of the guy emmiting it...
Everybody have the right to vote whatever he wants, but i don't think it's smart to vote that kind of joke when you are applying to a organization where equity seems to be a goal...

Airdrop Ending Date, Airdrop Maximum Participants Limit, Bonus distribution, etc. must take decision by the Dev or Dev team.  Otherwise, if decision power give to participants, they must suggest as per their personal benefit.

So Dev./Dev. Team must take their own decision and close this Airdrop as early as possible. And start concentration on promotion and listing on exchanges.


I agree...
But concerning exchanges, we aren't even sure the token exist ATM...

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August 15, 2017, 11:00:40 AM
 #1509

This is starting to feel like a social experiment.. The goal is to build our own movement without much interference of the DEV.
So if we succeed or not, imho it will all depend on the contributions of the people here in the movement.

Maybe we should start a slack channel or something, in this we can create the discussion spheres and grow . ..

I believe you are right...
Maybe we should start discussing where we want to head to...
After all we are building from scratch and we must coordinate to give this movement the pulse to start right.

Consensus will achieve a day or another but i saw this in the spreadsheet :

First 0-100 Members: 0% bonus
First 100-500 Members: 0% bonus
First 500-1000 Members: 100% bonus

I really think this kind of vote is against the spirit of the DAO...


It is a legitimate vote though, nothing wrong with it. The majority decides, not a single person. If someone wants to vote for a 10000% bonus just for himself, he is free to do that, but nobody else will cast the same vote, so he in principle wasted his own vote.

I don't question the validity of this vote, just the mindset of the guy emmiting it...
Everybody have the right to vote whatever he wants, but i don't think it's smart to vote that kind of joke when you are applying to a organization where equity seems to be a goal...

Airdrop Ending Date, Airdrop Maximum Participants Limit, Bonus distribution, etc. must take decision by the Dev or Dev team.  Otherwise, if decision power give to participants, they must suggest as per their personal benefit.

So Dev./Dev. Team must take their own decision and close this Airdrop as early as possible. And start concentration on promotion and listing on exchanges.


I agree...
But concerning exchanges, we aren't even sure the token exist ATM...

The dev spent much time on this so far so I bet this must be a success anytime in future.
But just be patient with it. It's still in very early stages until now.
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August 15, 2017, 01:07:16 PM
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This is starting to feel like a social experiment.. The goal is to build our own movement without much interference of the DEV.
So if we succeed or not, imho it will all depend on the contributions of the people here in the movement.

Maybe we should start a slack channel or something, in this we can create the discussion spheres and grow . ..

I believe you are right...
Maybe we should start discussing where we want to head to...
After all we are building from scratch and we must coordinate to give this movement the pulse to start right.

Consensus will achieve a day or another but i saw this in the spreadsheet :

First 0-100 Members: 0% bonus
First 100-500 Members: 0% bonus
First 500-1000 Members: 100% bonus

I really think this kind of vote is against the spirit of the DAO...


I knew that it would be! Earlier I already wrote about a similar problem - one will vote for absurdity, and if the result of voting is considered as an average result, then it will turn out to be absurd. Anyone, even a decentralized organization requires a coordinator. In particular, for voting, it is desirable to offer standard options that are not inconsistent with common sense, and if the coordinator does this, the participants control the entire movement with their own voices. And if everyone is looking for benefit only to himself, then chaos will happen.

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August 15, 2017, 01:47:12 PM
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Users should be patiente, seems to be good project so not to worry to speed all the process, it will come good news soon and all people will be happy again! Like this project give dev time

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August 15, 2017, 01:55:33 PM
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What is the final result of the vote ?

Yes please, tell us. Judging by the spreadsheet we had reached more than 51% votes almost a week ago. Waiting any longer only means more users joining in and having to wait for them to vote too. What was the -70% activity deadline for then?
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August 15, 2017, 02:01:49 PM
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Is there any information how and when closing date will be defined?

Not yet decided I think it will continue throughout the year and any member can join at any time and this will generate unlimited coins as per my opinion still no announcement about dead line.

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August 15, 2017, 02:39:32 PM
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{MovementAI@Dropper-Engine, message=20895865}




The
Movement



CONSENSUS REACHED


15th August 2017

364 Valid Votes

1731 Max Participants

Genesis Participant Application ends on August 31, 2017.


Genesis Collection Data







The Movement DAO is owned collectively by its founding members. By harnessing the power of the Ethereum blockchain, we are building the first Fully Crowdsourced Decentralised Autonomous Organisation (FC-DAO) from the ground up. Connect and Create @ the Unstoppable Organisation. Advancing and fostering cutting-edge Grassroots Networks.

Participants continue to increase their Activity rank until we move on to the next phase and finalize the Genesis Participant Data. We are now in the early stages. The amount of TAO Shares you are airdropped upon Genesis Launch is proportional to your Activity towards the Organisation.


We are the Movement.




🗝 The absolute amount of TAO Shares that will be created upon launch is not yet known.

3M is our base.

Let the DAO Activity determine the TAO.

The Genesis Snapshot will set this in stone.





How many Shares can I get?



{(3,000,000 TAO / (ΔTotal * Δrank)) * (Δactivity + Δboni)}

Where Δ = Founding Member



Bitcointalk Ranks:

Rank = Newbie 2, Junior 1.75, Member 1.5, Full Member 1, Senior Member 0.9, Hero 0.8, Legendary 0.7
// Decreasing numbers: higher reward in TAO


Movement Activity:

Activity = Idler 0.5, Mover 1, Contributor 1.75, Ambassador 2, Developer 3
// Increasing numbers: higher reward in TAO







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August 15, 2017, 02:41:39 PM
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Dear Dropper, please can you explain about this ranks?
Movement Activity:

Activity = Idler 0.5, Mover 1, Contributor 1.75, Ambassador 2, Developer 3

what is it and where it from?


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August 15, 2017, 02:55:42 PM
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supporting this, my genesis sentence; Really happy to join this airdrop! Support you completely!
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August 15, 2017, 02:55:58 PM
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Q & A

Round One




Dear Dropper, please can you explain about this ranks?
Movement Activity:
Activity = Idler 0.5, Mover 1, Contributor 1.75, Ambassador 2, Developer 3
what is it and where it from?


1. How to Increase my Movement Activity?


The amount of shares you get depends on your rank and is proportional to your amount of activity towards the DAO.

There are two crucial factors:


1. Movement Activity

Activity = Idler 0.5, Mover 1, Contributor 1.75, Ambassador 2, Developer 3
// Increasing numbers: higher reward in TAO


Enrolled, but inactive? Idler.

Participating in the Movement? Mover.

Actively contributing (i.e. Translation, Design, Community Management, Maintaining Spheres etc.)? Contributor.

Leading a team of Contributors? Ambassador.

Participating in the development of The Movement's core infrastructure? Developer.



2. Bitcointalk Rank

Newbie 2, Junior 1.75, Member 1.5, Full Member 1, Senior Member 0.9, Hero 0.8, Legendary 0.7                      
// Decreasing numbers: higher reward in TAO






Answer: Do what you love. Get active, create a Sphere, or join an existing one.

Connect and create. Build teams with other members. Imagine. Share.

See here. Please also follow the ANN and bookmark Dropper's Summary.







2. When does the Airdrop end?

Consensus has been reached. The sign up period for the Airdrop (Genesis Participant Application) will end once 1713 participants have enrolled, or August 31, 2017 is reached.



3. Can I enroll multiple times?

No. One account per person. We have an audit system and alt accounts are kicked out effectively on the day of the final audit.



4. When will I receive my Tokens?

Once the Genesis participant application data has been finalized, we are moving to the Ethereum blockchain to establish the DAO. The fuel of the movement, TAO, is distributed to all verified founding members on that day. Announcements will be made in time.






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August 15, 2017, 02:59:43 PM
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{MovementAI@Dropper-Engine, message=20895865}




The
Movement



CONSENSUS REACHED


15th August 2017

364 Valid Votes

1731 Max Participants

Genesis Participant Application ends on August 31, 2017.


Genesis Collection Data







The Movement DAO is owned collectively by its founding members. By harnessing the power of the Ethereum blockchain, we are building the first Fully Crowdsourced Decentralised Autonomous Organisation (FC-DAO) from the ground up. Connect and Create @ the Unstoppable Organisation. Advancing and fostering cutting-edge Grassroots Networks.

Participants continue to increase their Activity rank until we move on to the next phase and finalize the Genesis Participant Data. We are now in the early stages. The amount of TAO Shares you are airdropped upon Genesis Launch is proportional to your Activity towards the Organisation.


We are the Movement.




🗝 The absolute amount of TAO Shares that will be created upon launch is not yet known.

3M is our base.

Let the DAO Activity determine the TAO.

The Genesis Snapshot will set this in stone.





How many Shares can I get?



{(3,000,000 TAO / (ΔTotal * Δrank)) * (Δactivity + Δboni)}

Where Δ = Founding Member



Bitcointalk Ranks:

Rank = Newbie 2, Junior 1.75, Member 1.5, Full Member 1, Senior Member 0.9, Hero 0.8, Legendary 0.7
// Decreasing numbers: higher reward in TAO


Movement Activity:

Activity = Idler 0.5, Mover 1, Contributor 1.75, Ambassador 2, Developer 3
// Increasing numbers: higher reward in TAO








Nearly half the users that signed up are penalized -70%, I have a feeling some of them might try to create second accounts because new users aren't facing the penalty

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August 15, 2017, 02:59:50 PM
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Q & A

Round One




Dear Dropper, please can you explain about this ranks?
Movement Activity:
Activity = Idler 0.5, Mover 1, Contributor 1.75, Ambassador 2, Developer 3
what is it and where it from?

1. How to Increase my Movement Activity?

The amount of shares you get depends on your rank and is proportional to your amount of activity towards the DAO.

There are two crucial factors:

1. Movement Activity

Activity = Idler 0.5, Mover 1, Contributor 1.75, Ambassador 2, Developer 3
// Increasing numbers: higher reward in TAO


2. Bitcointalk Rank

Newbie 2, Junior 1.75, Member 1.5, Full Member 1, Senior Member 0.9, Hero 0.8, Legendary 0.7                                    
// Decreasing numbers: higher reward in TAO



Answer : In short: Do what you love. Get active, create a Sphere, or join an existing one. Connect and create. Build teams with other members. Imagine. Share.
See here. Please also follow the ANN and bookmark Dropper's Summary.





2. When does the Airdrop end?

Consensus has been reached. The sign up period for the Airdrop (Genesis Participant Application) will end once 1713 participants have enrolled. August 31, 2017 is the final date to apply.





but one more questions made by many.... when will the distribution of the tokens happen?
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August 15, 2017, 03:09:17 PM
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but one more questions made by many.... when will the distribution of the tokens happen?

Thank you for the great questions. Q & A Round One is being update as we speak.

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