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[coinerer]

One question I have is that I play live blackjack games on this site but I have noticed many times that when everyone bet big amounts on the board the dealer gets 20/21 points even with risky cards.  How does it happen?  Can there be any tricks in giving cards here?  I don't understand if it depends on luck and random cards come.  I can see that they are giving random cards but I doubt that any technique works here.  Can someone clear this up for me.  I have lost good amount of money here now I am confused about it

It's not just happening to you; I experience that same thing often too. For sure not only us. This is why I don't play the originals by Stake much anymore. As much as possible I stick to sports betting. Actually, someone posted on the scam accusations board about something similar regarding the Original by Stake, implying there's some cheating involved. They say that originals are probably fair but when I'm playing these game it feels not probably fair.

Slots games are completely algorithm based so there is a lot of cheating because you are betting there to win and you are predicting that you will win that bet but you cannot understand or see what is happening in the backend of the game. so it is much higher risk. But those who enjoy gambling do not worry about win loss. But if we see that they are cheating us by using different tricks then it cannot be accepted. I still don't understand that they are cheating somehow. I think we lose gambling because of our bad luck

Stake is still a reputable casino site so i Don't think they can cheat with there customers. i also enjoy stake orginal game like blackjack I think they surf fair cards. Gambling depends on luck be it live games or slots games. So your win loss will depend on your luck. stake is a reputable casino site so you can't blame them for your losses. You have to take responsibility for it. And if you gamble, you have to take this risk. so don't be upset about it.

[BitcoinHunt3r]

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Some of us discussed about the monthly bonus date after the release of pre-monthly bonus. We aren't expecting it before the 17th of June. I don't think they will send the monthly bonus earlier because of Euro 2024. Did they mention anything about the Euro 2024 in the monthly bonus of Stake.us?

I saw a bonus code being shared on the RainTEAM channel without any description so there's no harm in guessing that Stake will distribute bonuses to global users next Thursday. As you and I said before Euro 2024 could be a reason to share early, but whatever it is we can't expect more because the 14th and 17th are fair schedules. I have to be honest, last month my bonus was lower than my weekly bonus and I understand for some reason but for this month there should be no other reason because my activity is higher than last month and at the new VIP level  

[Symphonized]

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[BlackyJacky]

One question I have is that I play live blackjack games on this site but I have noticed many times that when everyone bet big amounts on the board the dealer gets 20/21 points even with risky cards.  How does it happen?  Can there be any tricks in giving cards here?  I don't understand if it depends on luck and random cards come.  I can see that they are giving random cards but I doubt that any technique works here.  Can someone clear this up for me.  I have lost good amount of money here now I am confused about it

Their "provably fair" thread is not monitored since years and the Crypto Gambling Foundation is also not reachable since years!!!

Their in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged:

Info 1)

If you take a look at my statistics here https://ibb.co/Hxf8NpR you can see the following total numbers:

Bets: 180,904

Wins: 78,285

Losses: 86,612

If we reduce the number of wins from the number of losses, we can see that I lost 8,327 bets (86,612 minus 78,285 = 8,327)

Losing 8,327 bets out of 180,904 bets placed = 4,6% of the bets lost.


Info 2)

The advertised house edge for the Stake in-house Black Jack is 0,5%, which means longterm I will lose 0,5% of all bets placed.

Losing 0,5% out of 180,904 bets placed = 900 bets to lose.

If you compare Info 1) with Info 2), you can see that I lost 8,327 bets instead of the 900 bets I should lose = 9 times more!

While there is a deviation from the expected outcome, it can not be 9 times more after 180,904 bets!


Info 3)

When the house edge is 0,5% and you placed 180,900 bets, you will lose 900 bets and the remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips.

The remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips, because they are neutral and you will win 50% = 90,000 bets and lose 50% = 90,000 bets.

4,6% of the bets lost while I should lose only 0,5% means my experienced deviation of the 180,000 coin flips is 4,1%!


Now let's take a look at the standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips:

A) Standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 212 coin flips = 0,12% (In 68% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0,12%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 34 times higher than the standard deviation (4,1% : 0,12% = 34)


B) 3 times standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 0,36% (In 99,7% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0.36%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 11 times higher than the 3 times standard deviation (4,1% : 0,36% = 11)

 
Info 4)

The Stake bet transaction history only states 180,000 single bet events and no overview of my experienced house edge.

To get my experienced house edge from the bet transaction history, I would need to take a look at all 180,000 bets and calculate it manually!

If the cards were dealt fair and I lost only 0,5% of all bets placed while the statistics states that I lost 4,6%, then the Stake statistics is rigged!

In either case, the Stake in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged and Stake has to compensate at least the 30,000 USD I lost from my pocket.

Their strategy to ignore me, while they are clearly at fault, will fail!  

[bitLeap]

One question I have is that I play live blackjack games on this site but I have noticed many times that when everyone bet big amounts on the board the dealer gets 20/21 points even with risky cards.  How does it happen?  Can there be any tricks in giving cards here?  I don't understand if it depends on luck and random cards come.  I can see that they are giving random cards but I doubt that any technique works here.  Can someone clear this up for me.  I have lost good amount of money here now I am confused about it

When betting large amounts on blackjack I also have the same prejudice as to why the dealer always ends up with a greater chance of winning. Not only once, almost every big bet I made was never able to win from the dealer. At that time I was angry and thought they were cheating by doing certain tricks but after the game ended leaving the casino I finally realized that what I was betting on was always with the ambition as if I would win easily. It was very disappointing, but after everything passed I admitted this was all a gamble. Such risks are familiar and in the future we only need to bet with more measured management, not risking larger amounts.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

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I don't trust the original BJ at stake as well but what you are writing is nonsense also.

You claimed that ALL your bets on stake ever made are from blackjack, I seriously doubt that. You never played ANY other game at stake??? Also, you can't put a $ amount to the lost bets since you don't know the bet size of every single bet. I doubt you make the same wager 180000 times.
How do you even keep playing this game for "180000 bets" when after 50k or 100k you should realise the house edge is not as advertised?

Anyway, copy/past the same words over and over again just gets people more fed up with you, also it's considered spamming.

[wiss19]

It's not just happening to you; I experience that same thing often too. For sure not only us. This is why I don't play the originals by Stake much anymore. As much as possible I stick to sports betting. Actually, someone posted on the scam accusations board about something similar regarding the Original by Stake, implying there's some cheating involved. They say that originals are probably fair but when I'm playing these game it feels not probably fair.

Slots games are completely algorithm based so there is a lot of cheating because you are betting there to win and you are predicting that you will win that bet but you cannot understand or see what is happening in the backend of the game. so it is much higher risk. But those who enjoy gambling do not worry about win loss. But if we see that they are cheating us by using different tricks then it cannot be accepted. I still don't understand that they are cheating somehow. I think we lose gambling because of our bad luck

I would say that back-end doesn't really matter, of course it is not decided on screen with animation in reality, backend just randomizes, it is a very simple code really, you could make a very simplified version of it on c# with like 10-15 lines of code, something that randomizes between 1-10 and if you guess the correct one then you are going to win type of thing.

We should consider the fact that we are going to end up with a great result without a doubt. I feel like the best thing we can do right now would be just focusing on how to get better, and for that to happen Slots are going to just stay the same with the backend, and the improvement will mostly happen based on what you do not see. Same goes for plinko and dice and so forth as well.

[hyudien]

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Some of us discussed about the monthly bonus date after the release of pre-monthly bonus. We aren't expecting it before the 17th of June. I don't think they will send the monthly bonus earlier because of Euro 2024. Did they mention anything about the Euro 2024 in the monthly bonus of Stake.us?

I saw a bonus code being shared on the RainTEAM channel without any description so there's no harm in guessing that Stake will distribute bonuses to global users next Thursday. As you and I said before Euro 2024 could be a reason to share early, but whatever it is we can't expect more because the 14th and 17th are fair schedules. I have to be honest, last month my bonus was lower than my weekly bonus and I understand for some reason but for this month there should be no other reason because my activity is higher than last month and at the new VIP level  

The 15th also doesn't seem too bad but it's too close to the weekly bonus on Saturday so the monthly bonus will drop on the 17th. It's a shame to hear that your monthly bonus is small, while mine has increased because the activity of the last few months has been quite aggressive so it increases the chance of bigger profits . In a week it can be up to 5 days in a row, the duration is also almost 5 to 7 hours. So the estimated monthly bonus this time should be quite large, but we'll see whether it matches predictions or not.

[Coin_trader]

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You are the only one questioning the Probably Fair of Stake despite a lot of players is actively playing on this casino including me that always play house blackjack regularly.

I read many times your thread and your math is a little bit flawed since you are questioning a probably fair integrity based on your few bets made most importantly that never repeated the process multiple time until you have a much larger bets quantity.

I spend more than the amount you involved on the house blackjack but never experienced what you are claiming since the result pretty fair as a regular blackjack player on both live games and house game.

[BlackyJacky]

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I don't trust the original BJ at stake as well but what you are writing is nonsense also.

You claimed that ALL your bets on stake ever made are from blackjack, I seriously doubt that. You never played ANY other game at stake???

Yes, I played only Black Jack at Stake.

The first 1,000 or 2,000 bets I made while playing Evolution Gaming live Black Jack.

Also, you can't put a $ amount to the lost bets since you don't know the bet size of every single bet.

Please quote where I put a $ amount to the lost bets?

I made 181,000 bets and lost around 30,000 USD from my pocket.
 

I doubt you make the same wager 180000 times.

Correct.

How do you even keep playing this game for "180000 bets" when after 50k or 100k you should realise the house edge is not as advertised?

I had the suspicion after 50,000 bets that something is odd here, but 50,000 bets are nowhere enough to be sure that something is odd.

Even 100,000 bets is not a big enough bet size to be sure that something is odd.

181,000 bets is a big enough size to prove that their in-house Black Jack system is rigged.

The last around 40,000 out of the 181,000 bets were only micro bets to get the statistic.

What the hired people here miss is that I will hold Bijan, Edward and Mladen accountable and for this I need 100% sure proof which 181,000 bets are.

Bijan, Edward and Mladen also missed that I will hold them accountable, nevertheless I will do it.

Anyway, copy/past the same words over and over again just gets people more fed up with you, also it's considered spamming.

I do not care if hired people get upset with a Stake victim and no, answering questions of concerned people is not spamming.

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You are the only one questioning the Probably Fair of Stake despite a lot of players is actively playing on this casino including me that always play house blackjack regularly.

How many of the other players actively playing on this casino made 200,000 bets at Stake's in-house Black Jack?

Where are the screenshots of their bet statistics?

I read many times your thread and your math is a little bit flawed...

Please quote where my math is flawed?

since you are questioning a probably fair integrity...

If you have read my thread* many times, then you should have noticed that I say that Stake's in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged.

(* is not my thread, is the Crypto Gambling Foundation thread)

I do not say that Stake's card dealing system is provably rigged and I can not proof it because Stake does not give me my bets statistics as required by the licensing conditions.

The bets statistics is part of Stake's in-house Black Jack system.

So their bet statistics could be rigged or their card dealing system or both.

One of the two is provably rigged, because such a huge deviation from the standard deviation is technically not possible after 181,000 attempts!

based on your few bets made most importantly that never repeated the process multiple time until you have a much larger bets quantity.

181,000 bets is not few bets and is a sufficient size to prove that Stake's in-house Black Jack system is rigged.

I spend more than the amount you involved on the house blackjack but never experienced what you are claiming since the result pretty fair as a regular blackjack player on both live games and house game.

You have lost more than 30,000 USD playing Black Jack at Stake and now you make nonsense posts for cents to recover your loss?  

Please post screenshots of your Stake in-house Black Jack bets statistic?

[ralle14]

The 15th also doesn't seem too bad but it's too close to the weekly bonus on Saturday so the monthly bonus will drop on the 17th. It's a shame to hear that your monthly bonus is small, while mine has increased because the activity of the last few months has been quite aggressive so it increases the chance of bigger profits . In a week it can be up to 5 days in a row, the duration is also almost 5 to 7 hours. So the estimated monthly bonus this time should be quite large, but we'll see whether it matches predictions or not.

Speaking of the monthly bonus, it's already out now on their live support page.

My bonus was reduced by half, but i'd still say it's a decent amount after lowering my gameplay these past few weeks.

[LogitechMouse]

Does anybody get this bonus from their email as well?

It's my first time anyway so if many here already received this kind of bonus then just ignore me. I'm just happy, but anyway, thanks for the bonus, Stake. Now I have some bonus funds to put my bet on the Celtics winning in Game 4. 

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Does anybody get this bonus from their email as well?

It's my first time anyway so if many here already received this kind of bonus then just ignore me. I'm just happy, but anyway, thanks for the bonus, Stake. Now I have some bonus funds to put my bet on the Celtics winning in Game 4. 

Lucky you.
Even though I am platinum 5 I have never, and I mean NEVER, gotten any promotional email from stake with a free bonus or whatever.

Aside from weekly, monthly and VIP host related bonus stuff I guess they don't want me to get more. 

Good luck with your game 4 bet!!

[Symphonized]

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https://x.com/Stake/status/1801410607075442880

[ryzaadit]

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I guess it always depends on your habits.

If based on the explanation, he was choosing from Stake Top NBA Bettors. That's why the promotion came out for his account since Sportbook is not the way to make wagering. IMO, It's how Stake makes some treats to the users who are high roller enough or bet consistently on Sportbook with this kind of promotion. Meanwhile, for us regular user who are not playing on those sectors but have a good wagering on CASINO sector, basically just a random bonus from VIP lHost like Top and others.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

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I guess it always depends on your habits.

If based on the explanation, he was choosing from Stake Top NBA Bettors. That's why the promotion came out for his account since Sportbook is not the way to make wagering. IMO, It's how Stake makes some treats to the users who are high roller enough or bet consistently on Sportbook with this kind of promotion. Meanwhile, for us regular user who are not playing on those sectors but have a good wagering on CASINO sector, basically just a random bonus from VIP lHost like Top and others.

You couldn't be more wrong, lol. You should stop making assumptions like this, seriously.

His account has 673.55$ life time wager, I doubt he qualifies as a stake top NBA bettor, hahaha. I am platinum 5 ( 23% to go to plat 6 ) and basically only play basketball. You could say that I have 10000x his wager. Calling him a high roller would qualify me as a super rich high roller whale, and this this couldn't be more wrong as well.

I guess they just want him to log in, get fixed on playing and deposit ( to lose it ). @logitechmous: Try do win some money with the bonus but don't let them lure you in.

[zTec]

Where can I find full results for the $100k daily race? I see that there is a live standings only for the first 40 players. Where are the others? It is not enough for me to know my position in the ranking if I do not know who is ahead of me and how much wager I still have to make to overtake someone. And I will never be in the top 40 
The previous day's results would help me a lot. Can it be found somewhere?

[jjabra]

5000 USDT held on the STAKE.COM EOS network

The company does not cooperate at all, do I consider my funds lost?



https://bloks.io/transaction/ec4a2ffcb66f7b05b840fe1be9f8559f44f6955b128ad7a4196223a915164d3b




In total they have about $33,000 (and counting)




https://i.ibb.co/28ZmZgw/Captura-de-pantalla-2024-06-14-a-las-11-41-20.png

[ryzaadit]

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It's just my two cents and it was stated in the word promotion (Selected as top bettor NBA). I know, It's just a marketing word but at least he passed some minimum requirements triggered receive the promotion.


Welcome to stake then, while everything is an assumption. Even the user makes the assumption about "wen monthly" is being release, everything in here is assumption. That's the fun part. Take it easy, no need serious.

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Basically the answer it's (YES).

Do you open a deposit page? On their Stake with USDT only accepts with (ETH/BSC/Polygon/TRX) Network. You can ask with Live-Support, If they can recovery the asset or not. But mostly, they don't want it because the mistake is on user.

I have experience made wrong deposit around 300$ to CHIPS CASINO, and realized the deposit address are different comparing to other casino while mostly address ERC-20 all of them always same. Even the casino can easily recovery the fund by just changing the network, still they cannot process any asset are send to wrong network. So, you must take the L.

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Maximum only 40, you can't see full length. Did you wagering more than a few hundred thousand- millions dollars on stake ? If not, feel free to ignore because is required a few hundred thousand - millions dollars to get top 100 position. Just take number 40th around 750K$ with 4 hour left until the race is over, basically in around 400-500K for 70-100 position. It's just my assumption. If you worried about your position, just keep looking your own position and keep waggering until the timer is end.

[zTec]

Maximum only 40, you can't see full length. Did you wagering more than a few hundred thousand- millions dollars on stake ? If not, feel free to ignore because is required a few hundred thousand - millions dollars to get top 100 position. Just take number 40th around 750K$ with 4 hour left until the race is over, basically in around 400-500K for 70-100 position. It's just my assumption. If you worried about your position, just keep looking your own position and keep waggering until the timer is end.

I played for about $30-35k and I know that's enough for a $3 prize, but I'm wondering if I play more (eg $50k or $70k) how much prize would I get then? Or to put the question differently: how much wager do I need to make to get a prize of $10 or $20?
It's strange to me that you can't see the full ranking list or at least the first 1000 places live or that you can't see the order of all participants afterwards. In some other casinos, I can always see the full ranking list of all prizes and points.