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[BitcoinHunt3r]

Honestly speaking, I doubt that there will be 500-1000 users when it comes to real mode game. The prizepool of the freeroll is quite attractive to be missed by those who like free roll tournament. When it comes to cash game or buy-in tournament, the number of participants can be lower than what you expect. We have many examples in this crypto industry where there are many poker sites unable to survive because they got so low interest. About house edge, as mentioned by arallmuus above, the most common used terminology is rake. As an addition, rake is usually few percent taken from the pot (in the cash games).

Yeah I understand and agree with this one and I said the same thing, I remember one of the famous sportsbooks on this forum and it was even on the same level as Stake.com provided poker games several years ago but in the end the game was closed, but this time we talk about Stake.com something different is there therefore I wonder if Stake.com can attract more poker players when the real table is activated. Currently around 60k active users play every day if stake could bring in just 1% playing poker then around 500-600 users would be at the table, yeah this is just my assumption but in general most of them play in-house games like the screenshot 19k users play Mines and Dice, Plinko, Limbo 20k users of these 3 games.

[iv4n]

...this time we talk about Stake.com something different is there therefore I wonder if Stake.com can attract more poker players when the real table is activated. Currently around 60k active users play every day if stake could bring in just 1% playing poker then around 500-600 users would be at the table, yeah this is just my assumption but in general most of them play in-house games like the screenshot 19k users play Mines and Dice, Plinko, Limbo 20k users of these 3 games.

It seems they have entered the poker very seriously, $1k free roll tournaments are a big thing in the crypto poker world. I guess $4k per day is not a big deal for Stake, but if they add more (and I think they will) they will have really attractive GTD tournaments. Since they have a lot of ambassadors if they make some deals with famous poker players that can be a big thing.

Many "real" poker players don't play free roll tournaments, they wish to play a "real game". That's why the stake has an opportunity to be a game changer in the poker world. I am somehow positive about that, whatever they did was a big hit.

So when this "promotional" part ends we will see what Stake prepared and how many people will be active. Many will stop playing, but I believe many new ones will start coming.

[arallmuus]

Many "real" poker players don't play free roll tournaments, they wish to play a "real game". That's why the stake has an opportunity to be a game changer in the poker world. I am somehow positive about that, whatever they did was a big hit.

So when this "promotional" part ends we will see what Stake prepared and how many people will be active. Many will stop playing, but I believe many new ones will start coming.

Yeah Im sick of this freerolls already. Big part of it is because I kept losing in this freerolls lol and yeah I've been playing super agressive since the first hand trying to sneak in as many chips as I could but yeah I kept losing somehow. I lost a hand on the last freerolls, it was A10s vs 910o and 678 miraculously showed up on flop and turn 

Its about time they add some GTD tournaments alongside freerolls, not everyone loves freerolls for sure ! lol

[Bitinity]

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Yeah I understand and agree with this one and I said the same thing, I remember one of the famous sportsbooks on this forum and it was even on the same level as Stake.com provided poker games several years ago but in the end the game was closed, but this time we talk about Stake.com something different is there therefore I wonder if Stake.com can attract more poker players when the real table is activated. Currently around 60k active users play every day if stake could bring in just 1% playing poker then around 500-600 users would be at the table, yeah this is just my assumption but in general most of them play in-house games like the screenshot 19k users play Mines and Dice, Plinko, Limbo 20k users of these 3 games.

Although there are many stake players who play the original games but it cant be used as reference to predict about the poker game because poker game is pvp poker game which work differently with the other original games. Hopefully I'm wrong and Stake will have many active poker players when the cash game is opened later. Perhaps what they do now by having regular freeroll is the one they can do to gain the interest from players although I think the number of players who want to play real cash game from those who like to play the freeroll will not be more than 50%.

[ryzaadit]

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If you are sick with the free tournament, better skip those ~XD. We are waiting for the cash game but don't know when they're deploying those ones on the table. IMO the best way to get the answer is by Eddie during the Weekly Stream. You can ask them.

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We can compare with other products. Example Coinpoker, they have free roll as well with less reward the player in estimation 400-600 player for free roll meanwhile the cash game tournament mostly just under 100 player even have worst number under 20-50 player. If we see stake, we have around 2500-3000 player each section just take 10% from them at least 200-300 player could be on the table.

I also looking forward for tournament poker with entry around 10-20$, free roll it's kinda hard to be used as practice the reason was simple people doing all-in everytime and just  hoping getting lucky. At least with entry cash game, they will think twice to all in every single turn ~LOL.

[Betwrong]

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A very interesting game from the start, there were not many all-in calls so we could play some nice poker.

I already played couple of these tournaments and I noticed that too. With so many players in this freeroll I was expecting a lot of all-ins from the start, but was surprised that it wasn't the case. I even told my wife "They are playing like good players in normal tournaments! Amazing!"

~ Maybe I could have taken a better place but I had a couple of bad decisions and I ended up trying to bluff and I ran into a set of kings and I was out 3rd.

Are you kidding me, mate? You took the 3rd place in a tournament of like 3,000 participants! I am proud to have once played at the same table with you in Bitcointalk Poker tournaments, and more than once actually! We were playing together at the final table too, remember? Congrats, @iv4n! The 3rd place in this Stake Tournament is amazing achievement.

I'm going to participate in as many of them as possible. Unfortunately, I miss most of them for obvious reasons(no electricity, no internet, stuff like that.)


I did win something good on Stake recently:



Not through poker, but still win is a win.

[panjul07]

Monthly bonus for US players has just been released, when the monthly bonus for .com players will be released?
Since we are on 12th now and we are getting closed to weekend, sooner chance will be on 13th or 14th (Friday).
If it will not come within the next 2 days then high likely .com players will receive the monthly bonus next Monday.
Euro 2024 is going to start this weekend so I hope Stake will release the bonus before 15th so players may use the monthly bonus to bet on Euro matches.

[Mahdirakib]

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Some of us discussed about the monthly bonus date after the release of pre-monthly bonus. We aren't expecting it before the 17th of June. I don't think they will send the monthly bonus earlier because of Euro 2024. Did they mention anything about the Euro 2024 in the monthly bonus of Stake.us?

[coinerer]

One question I have is that I play live blackjack games on this site but I have noticed many times that when everyone bet big amounts on the board the dealer gets 20/21 points even with risky cards.  How does it happen?  Can there be any tricks in giving cards here?  I don't understand if it depends on luck and random cards come.  I can see that they are giving random cards but I doubt that any technique works here.  Can someone clear this up for me.  I have lost good amount of money here now I am confused about it

It's not just happening to you; I experience that same thing often too. For sure not only us. This is why I don't play the originals by Stake much anymore. As much as possible I stick to sports betting. Actually, someone posted on the scam accusations board about something similar regarding the Original by Stake, implying there's some cheating involved. They say that originals are probably fair but when I'm playing these game it feels not probably fair.

Slots games are completely algorithm based so there is a lot of cheating because you are betting there to win and you are predicting that you will win that bet but you cannot understand or see what is happening in the backend of the game. so it is much higher risk. But those who enjoy gambling do not worry about win loss. But if we see that they are cheating us by using different tricks then it cannot be accepted. I still don't understand that they are cheating somehow. I think we lose gambling because of our bad luck

Stake is still a reputable casino site so i Don't think they can cheat with there customers. i also enjoy stake orginal game like blackjack I think they surf fair cards. Gambling depends on luck be it live games or slots games. So your win loss will depend on your luck. stake is a reputable casino site so you can't blame them for your losses. You have to take responsibility for it. And if you gamble, you have to take this risk. so don't be upset about it.

[BitcoinHunt3r]

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Some of us discussed about the monthly bonus date after the release of pre-monthly bonus. We aren't expecting it before the 17th of June. I don't think they will send the monthly bonus earlier because of Euro 2024. Did they mention anything about the Euro 2024 in the monthly bonus of Stake.us?

I saw a bonus code being shared on the RainTEAM channel without any description so there's no harm in guessing that Stake will distribute bonuses to global users next Thursday. As you and I said before Euro 2024 could be a reason to share early, but whatever it is we can't expect more because the 14th and 17th are fair schedules. I have to be honest, last month my bonus was lower than my weekly bonus and I understand for some reason but for this month there should be no other reason because my activity is higher than last month and at the new VIP level  

[Symphonized]

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[BlackyJacky]

One question I have is that I play live blackjack games on this site but I have noticed many times that when everyone bet big amounts on the board the dealer gets 20/21 points even with risky cards.  How does it happen?  Can there be any tricks in giving cards here?  I don't understand if it depends on luck and random cards come.  I can see that they are giving random cards but I doubt that any technique works here.  Can someone clear this up for me.  I have lost good amount of money here now I am confused about it

Their "provably fair" thread is not monitored since years and the Crypto Gambling Foundation is also not reachable since years!!!

Their in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged:

Info 1)

If you take a look at my statistics here https://ibb.co/Hxf8NpR you can see the following total numbers:

Bets: 180,904

Wins: 78,285

Losses: 86,612

If we reduce the number of wins from the number of losses, we can see that I lost 8,327 bets (86,612 minus 78,285 = 8,327)

Losing 8,327 bets out of 180,904 bets placed = 4,6% of the bets lost.


Info 2)

The advertised house edge for the Stake in-house Black Jack is 0,5%, which means longterm I will lose 0,5% of all bets placed.

Losing 0,5% out of 180,904 bets placed = 900 bets to lose.

If you compare Info 1) with Info 2), you can see that I lost 8,327 bets instead of the 900 bets I should lose = 9 times more!

While there is a deviation from the expected outcome, it can not be 9 times more after 180,904 bets!


Info 3)

When the house edge is 0,5% and you placed 180,900 bets, you will lose 900 bets and the remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips.

The remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips, because they are neutral and you will win 50% = 90,000 bets and lose 50% = 90,000 bets.

4,6% of the bets lost while I should lose only 0,5% means my experienced deviation of the 180,000 coin flips is 4,1%!


Now let's take a look at the standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips:

A) Standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 212 coin flips = 0,12% (In 68% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0,12%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 34 times higher than the standard deviation (4,1% : 0,12% = 34)


B) 3 times standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 0,36% (In 99,7% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0.36%)
 
My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 11 times higher than the 3 times standard deviation (4,1% : 0,36% = 11)

 
Info 4)

The Stake bet transaction history only states 180,000 single bet events and no overview of my experienced house edge.

To get my experienced house edge from the bet transaction history, I would need to take a look at all 180,000 bets and calculate it manually!

If the cards were dealt fair and I lost only 0,5% of all bets placed while the statistics states that I lost 4,6%, then the Stake statistics is rigged!

In either case, the Stake in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged and Stake has to compensate at least the 30,000 USD I lost from my pocket.

Their strategy to ignore me, while they are clearly at fault, will fail!  

[bitLeap]

One question I have is that I play live blackjack games on this site but I have noticed many times that when everyone bet big amounts on the board the dealer gets 20/21 points even with risky cards.  How does it happen?  Can there be any tricks in giving cards here?  I don't understand if it depends on luck and random cards come.  I can see that they are giving random cards but I doubt that any technique works here.  Can someone clear this up for me.  I have lost good amount of money here now I am confused about it

When betting large amounts on blackjack I also have the same prejudice as to why the dealer always ends up with a greater chance of winning. Not only once, almost every big bet I made was never able to win from the dealer. At that time I was angry and thought they were cheating by doing certain tricks but after the game ended leaving the casino I finally realized that what I was betting on was always with the ambition as if I would win easily. It was very disappointing, but after everything passed I admitted this was all a gamble. Such risks are familiar and in the future we only need to bet with more measured management, not risking larger amounts.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

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I don't trust the original BJ at stake as well but what you are writing is nonsense also.

You claimed that ALL your bets on stake ever made are from blackjack, I seriously doubt that. You never played ANY other game at stake??? Also, you can't put a $ amount to the lost bets since you don't know the bet size of every single bet. I doubt you make the same wager 180000 times.
How do you even keep playing this game for "180000 bets" when after 50k or 100k you should realise the house edge is not as advertised?

Anyway, copy/past the same words over and over again just gets people more fed up with you, also it's considered spamming.

[wiss19]

It's not just happening to you; I experience that same thing often too. For sure not only us. This is why I don't play the originals by Stake much anymore. As much as possible I stick to sports betting. Actually, someone posted on the scam accusations board about something similar regarding the Original by Stake, implying there's some cheating involved. They say that originals are probably fair but when I'm playing these game it feels not probably fair.

Slots games are completely algorithm based so there is a lot of cheating because you are betting there to win and you are predicting that you will win that bet but you cannot understand or see what is happening in the backend of the game. so it is much higher risk. But those who enjoy gambling do not worry about win loss. But if we see that they are cheating us by using different tricks then it cannot be accepted. I still don't understand that they are cheating somehow. I think we lose gambling because of our bad luck

I would say that back-end doesn't really matter, of course it is not decided on screen with animation in reality, backend just randomizes, it is a very simple code really, you could make a very simplified version of it on c# with like 10-15 lines of code, something that randomizes between 1-10 and if you guess the correct one then you are going to win type of thing.

We should consider the fact that we are going to end up with a great result without a doubt. I feel like the best thing we can do right now would be just focusing on how to get better, and for that to happen Slots are going to just stay the same with the backend, and the improvement will mostly happen based on what you do not see. Same goes for plinko and dice and so forth as well.

[hyudien]

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Some of us discussed about the monthly bonus date after the release of pre-monthly bonus. We aren't expecting it before the 17th of June. I don't think they will send the monthly bonus earlier because of Euro 2024. Did they mention anything about the Euro 2024 in the monthly bonus of Stake.us?

I saw a bonus code being shared on the RainTEAM channel without any description so there's no harm in guessing that Stake will distribute bonuses to global users next Thursday. As you and I said before Euro 2024 could be a reason to share early, but whatever it is we can't expect more because the 14th and 17th are fair schedules. I have to be honest, last month my bonus was lower than my weekly bonus and I understand for some reason but for this month there should be no other reason because my activity is higher than last month and at the new VIP level  

The 15th also doesn't seem too bad but it's too close to the weekly bonus on Saturday so the monthly bonus will drop on the 17th. It's a shame to hear that your monthly bonus is small, while mine has increased because the activity of the last few months has been quite aggressive so it increases the chance of bigger profits . In a week it can be up to 5 days in a row, the duration is also almost 5 to 7 hours. So the estimated monthly bonus this time should be quite large, but we'll see whether it matches predictions or not.

[Cointxz]

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You are the only one questioning the Probably Fair of Stake despite a lot of players is actively playing on this casino including me that always play house blackjack regularly.

I read many times your thread and your math is a little bit flawed since you are questioning a probably fair integrity based on your few bets made most importantly that never repeated the process multiple time until you have a much larger bets quantity.

I spend more than the amount you involved on the house blackjack but never experienced what you are claiming since the result pretty fair as a regular blackjack player on both live games and house game.

[ralle14]

The 15th also doesn't seem too bad but it's too close to the weekly bonus on Saturday so the monthly bonus will drop on the 17th. It's a shame to hear that your monthly bonus is small, while mine has increased because the activity of the last few months has been quite aggressive so it increases the chance of bigger profits . In a week it can be up to 5 days in a row, the duration is also almost 5 to 7 hours. So the estimated monthly bonus this time should be quite large, but we'll see whether it matches predictions or not.

Speaking of the monthly bonus, it's already out now on their live support page.

My bonus was reduced by half, but i'd still say it's a decent amount after lowering my gameplay these past few weeks.

[LogitechMouse]

Does anybody get this bonus from their email as well?

It's my first time anyway so if many here already received this kind of bonus then just ignore me. I'm just happy, but anyway, thanks for the bonus, Stake. Now I have some bonus funds to put my bet on the Celtics winning in Game 4. 

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Does anybody get this bonus from their email as well?

It's my first time anyway so if many here already received this kind of bonus then just ignore me. I'm just happy, but anyway, thanks for the bonus, Stake. Now I have some bonus funds to put my bet on the Celtics winning in Game 4. 

Lucky you.
Even though I am platinum 5 I have never, and I mean NEVER, gotten any promotional email from stake with a free bonus or whatever.

Aside from weekly, monthly and VIP host related bonus stuff I guess they don't want me to get more. 

Good luck with your game 4 bet!!