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July 19, 2020, 04:05:38 PM |
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Yeah that is stealing IP but probably not worth pursuing. The thing about this sites is that if they are this blatently stealing property of another site then you can expect for them to steal from players as well. If you want to last in this bussines you need to do your own things not steal from others. That is what I wanted to know. I got the idea that if they are stealing like this, they would steal from the players as well and that is totally understandable and someone should check them out and warn people. However as an idea, if you steal someone's design but not the code (as in steal the front end, but have your own back end) and games are basically similar as well, does design really matter? But from the looks of it, even design of a website is still IP and that is stealing so I totally get it. Why do you think it is not worth pursuing? I mean not that these guys would have any money to sue and get (obviously, otherwise they would make their own) but at least you would teach some people who think this is fine a lesson and maybe even fix them to be more decent or they would get in trouble, like training a dog.
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Symphonized
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July 19, 2020, 07:11:24 PM Last edit: July 20, 2020, 10:57:30 AM by Symphonized |
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We've brought it back, better than ever!Multi insurance is the number one ticket to profits this week, book your tickets now! T's and C's: https://promotions.stake.com/soccer-insurance/So what do you all think of our new update?#Stak3
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July 19, 2020, 07:47:58 PM |
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However as an idea, if you steal someone's design but not the code (as in steal the front end, but have your own back end) and games are basically similar as well, does design really matter? But from the looks of it, even design of a website is still IP and that is stealing so I totally get it. Why do you think it is not worth pursuing?
This is the big con associated with crypto which scammers take advantage of on a regular basis. Even if they pursue this matter and try to screw the scammers, it would most likely result in a waste of time since these scammers usually never disclose their true identities. The best thing that can be done here is to warn gamblers to avoid these sites through this forum, review sites etc. Apart from this, I don't think anything else will be beneficial.
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eaLiTy
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July 19, 2020, 09:31:48 PM |
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Could lightning strike twice?? ⚡⚡
After two split decisions at #UFC251, you could make even more cash back this weekend at #UFCFightIsland with our permanent Split Decision promotion Do we have this promotion for future MMA events or just UFC events where split decision wins will be considered as voided or are you giving back a percentage as cash back and is it solely a competition for fight island or for future events, the recent fight card did not have a split decision but will be looking forward to hear about the promotion in detail.
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July 19, 2020, 11:54:06 PM |
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I noticed that there is a new feature to filter the casino games by "providers", does it mean that Stake is going to add games from 3rd party providers? If no, I do not think there should be such filter feature as all the games are original games from Stake. So I guess Stake will add games from 3rd party providers in the future. If it is true, I can say that it will be good addition as there will be more games to play and high likely there will be much more promotions.
Yep, they're coming. AFAIK they're currently in beta and you can get early access if you have a high enough VIP level and request it.
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July 20, 2020, 02:37:56 AM |
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I noticed that there is a new feature to filter the casino games by "providers", does it mean that Stake is going to add games from 3rd party providers? If no, I do not think there should be such filter feature as all the games are original games from Stake. So I guess Stake will add games from 3rd party providers in the future. If it is true, I can say that it will be good addition as there will be more games to play and high likely there will be much more promotions.
Yes it will coming this monday, if you are on platinum vip, you can ask the early access on your vip host.
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July 20, 2020, 06:05:40 AM |
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This is the big con associated with crypto which scammers take advantage of on a regular basis. Even if they pursue this matter and try to screw the scammers, it would most likely result in a waste of time since these scammers usually never disclose their true identities.
The best thing that can be done here is to warn gamblers to avoid these sites through this forum, review sites etc. Apart from this, I don't think anything else will be beneficial.
Yup,,, I think we as a crypto community who love the way crypto gambling allows us to keep our privacy should also understand that this privacy benefit cuts both ways. The only way we have to protect ourselves is to do this. Keep telling each other what is good in an objective and unbiased way, keep supporting what is good, and keep warning everyone else about what is bad.
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Stunna (OP)
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July 20, 2020, 06:15:59 AM |
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Stake version 3 is now live! Exciting day for Stake, all your favorites are finally under one roof Stake.com
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July 20, 2020, 06:36:02 AM |
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Stake version 3 is now live! Exciting day for Stake, all your favorites are finally under one roof Stake.com Another great updates from Stake, I noticed about this version 3 from the twitter on the twit of a riddle "version three is coming" and today it is indeed coming as scheduled. Congrats Stake, now we can play more games from various providers. Players wont need to move to other sites to play 3rd party providers now as it is now available here. I'll check what providers are available here, hopefully I can find my favorite providers and favorite slot games.
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babygun
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July 20, 2020, 06:44:19 AM |
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Another great update of Stake, a lot of novelties this last weeks! Providing casino games from various providers is something a lot of players want (I for sure will test it out), so I am curious to see how many new members they can bring aboard with this new update.
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July 20, 2020, 07:02:14 AM |
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Quick drop from 100% provably fair games to ~1%. Gotta be said.
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July 20, 2020, 12:27:12 PM |
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Quick drop from 100% provably fair games to ~1%. Gotta be said.
Yeah thats the main issue with all this games by various providers. They are generally trusted but not provablyfair. If you care about provablyfair as much as we do you can still play only Stake originals games. However hopefully we can push the industry towards provablyfair and one day hopefully there won't be any casino games that are not provablyfair.
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July 20, 2020, 01:27:39 PM |
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Quick drop from 100% provably fair games to ~1%. Gotta be said.
Thats right, but evolution games is a big provider afaik, and i am assuming stake did their due diligence and the other providers are fair/reputable as well. This provides some needed variety to the casino folks on stake, and anyone concerned about provable fairness can always stick to stake originals
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July 20, 2020, 02:20:51 PM |
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Quick drop from 100% provably fair games to ~1%. Gotta be said.
Yes this is the main disadvantage for Stake of adding those games from 3rd party providers. But on the other side, it gives them more players because there are many gamblers who love to play those games from 3rd party providers. Yep, they're coming. AFAIK they're currently in beta and you can get early access if you have a high enough VIP level and request it.
I do not need to access the beta as it is open for public already I'm not really sure if Platinum II is a high enough rank to get early access for something like this. But I have once got early access for the sportsbook some time ago.
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July 20, 2020, 02:34:00 PM |
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Quick drop from 100% provably fair games to ~1%. Gotta be said. A disclaimer would be nice. Either something to the ends of "this is a third-party game provider and is not provably fair" or just explicitly stating that you can't verify their bets. The worst part, really, is that the whole process is not difficult to create for many of the games that have been added: slots being a huge part of the pool, and those already have predetermined results which could have easily been generated with various provably fair systems.
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Haunebu
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July 20, 2020, 04:07:47 PM |
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This new update is pretty decent in my opinion. The big pro is the ability to check details regarding the game like house edge etc before playing which is something I usually check though provably fair mechanism is an issue as the posters above pointed out.
Also, the segregation of Stake Originals and 3rd party games in an organized manner is another pro. However, performance still needs improvement in many departments on mobile and desktop.
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Symphonized
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July 20, 2020, 06:18:58 PM |
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NEW BLOG POST | A few months ago, we ranked our top five all-time sports documentaries. We decided to do a part two, just because there's so many good ones!! Check out our list now: https://news.stake.com/top-5-sports-documentaries-part-2/
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July 20, 2020, 06:46:22 PM |
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Quick drop from 100% provably fair games to ~1%. Gotta be said.
Yeah thats the main issue with all this games by various providers. They are generally trusted but not provablyfair. If you care about provablyfair as much as we do you can still play only Stake originals games. However hopefully we can push the industry towards provablyfair and one day hopefully there won't be any casino games that are not provablyfair. If you cant beat them, Join them . I wont really judge the decision to finally add these kind of providers into your site but wether people like or even hate it, it will definitely give more traffic to the site There are tons of other newly popped out site around here that adds all game from these providers , as a result they have quite significant amount of player A disclaimer would be nice.
Either something to the ends of "this is a third-party game provider and is not provably fair" or just explicitly stating that you can't verify their bets.
Every game that is provided by the 3rd party is not provably fair and it is easy to differrentiate which The worst part, really, is that the whole process is not difficult to create for many of the games that have been added: slots being a huge part of the pool, and those already have predetermined results which could have easily been generated with various provably fair systems. Think of it as a brand and those huge brand ( game provider ) could possibly bring in more new player to the site
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July 20, 2020, 06:52:41 PM |
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A disclaimer would be nice.
Either something to the ends of "this is a third-party game provider and is not provably fair" or just explicitly stating that you can't verify their bets. Every game that is provided by the 3rd party is not provably fair and it is easy to differrentiate which Yes, but how would an unfamiliar player know that they weren't provably fair? Could easily build the association between Stake and provably fairness, rather than with Stake's original games and provably fairness. Think of it as a brand and those huge brand ( game provider ) could possibly bring in more new player to the site I understand this, but it still doesn't mean I can't rag on the providers for a lack of provable fairness. Just because they are reputable does not mean that they cannot cheat in some form: that would be a huge logic gap that is massively exploitable.
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July 20, 2020, 08:02:10 PM Last edit: July 20, 2020, 08:35:09 PM by arallmuus |
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A disclaimer would be nice.
Either something to the ends of "this is a third-party game provider and is not provably fair" or just explicitly stating that you can't verify their bets. Every game that is provided by the 3rd party is not provably fair and it is easy to differrentiate which Yes, but how would an unfamiliar player know that they weren't provably fair? Could easily build the association between Stake and provably fairness, rather than with Stake's original games and provably fairness. Think of it as a brand and those huge brand ( game provider ) could possibly bring in more new player to the site I understand this, but it still doesn't mean I can't rag on the providers for a lack of provable fairness. Just because they are reputable does not mean that they cannot cheat in some form: that would be a huge logic gap that is massively exploitable. Not provably fair doesnt mean that the site is cheating, it just means you cant verify wether the site cheats you or not and it only works if you verify your own bets otherwise it doesnt. I doubt that majority of the player would verify their bets one by one after rolling tons with the autobet on the original stake game, do you? I get your concern regarding this but I believe that Stake has come to a tough decision by associating the site with all these game providers that has no provably fair system built on it. By associating the site with this 3rd party provider, Stake is also exposing their own players to the possibility of being cheated however I doubt that Stake would keep silent whenever there is a case where these providers cheat their players.
Stake need to attract larger pack of crowd to their site in other to survive the other competitor and to do that, it would be faster to use 3rd party provider then to code all their own game from scratch.
Edit : @Symphonized : Your signature still says Stake 2 , you might want to change it to Stake 3
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