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November 24, 2022, 01:07:05 AM |
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Huh? Every site has their own term & condition, there has some websites that have a term & conditions (Returned your deposit, If you prohibited their term & condition). Especially from Sportsbet user who is violated their t&c (but they are not returned your deposit, in casethey close your account after you withdraw a winning amount more than your deposit) Also, there has some casinos that locked user accounts with the balance you have on the account. It's all depends on the term & condition & each site have their own t&c, off course you are never read that.
Been here for a long time, and as long not playing against their term & condition all fine. Oh yes, I forget most the time issue I always read on a forum from Sportbet players. Always multi-account because a few reason (Avoiding bet limits, promotion, and some odds stuff like that). Meanwhile, a issue for "CASINO" user is rarely happen. ~XD
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November 24, 2022, 02:12:36 AM Last edit: November 24, 2022, 02:27:28 AM by Symphonized |
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[$2,500] Perfect 10 | Week 58| SportsWin a multi-bet with at least x10 by betting on at least 5 matches (all sports). The minimum bet amount is set at 1USD$ (in any crypto currency). Giveaway's Topic: https://stakecommunity.com/topic/64824-2500-perfect-10-week-58-sports/
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November 24, 2022, 02:29:29 AM |
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Are you down Stake? I cant access it now, it stuck on loading for minutes already. I thought it is related to ISP block, but seems that your server is down at the moment or maybe you are doing a maintenance now as I cant access it through all the available mirror sites? I checked on your twitter, there are also some people saying that they cant access your site. Unfortunately, there is no official announcement in both telegram and twitter.
edit: it is back
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November 24, 2022, 06:36:52 AM |
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The accusations are not really a "scam" one, it’s disagreement over a situation between stake and a user. The other thing that the user claims that they used is seen as a potential multi accounting by stake, and it is not a multi accounting according to the user, that’s the disagreement.
However, there is no "scamming" going on, which means it should be handled here, not at scam accusation, what the scam accusation was for? It was for people who scammed you, like took your money and not give you anything back, this is not the case here, it's breach of rules according to stake and not a breach of rules according to user, so it’s a regular casino complaint.
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November 24, 2022, 06:46:15 AM |
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The accusations are not really a "scam" one, it’s disagreement over a situation between stake and a user. The other thing that the user claims that they used is seen as a potential multi accounting by stake, and it is not a multi accounting according to the user, that’s the disagreement.
However, there is no "scamming" going on, which means it should be handled here, not at scam accusation, what the scam accusation was for? It was for people who scammed you, like took your money and not give you anything back, this is not the case here, it's breach of rules according to stake and not a breach of rules according to user, so it’s a regular casino complaint.
All casinos will have unhappy costumers that will scream scam but all issues need to be investigated also. Haven't followed really in detail the ongoing accusations but all cases need to have proof and hopefully it all gets resolved quickly.
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BitcoinGirl.Club
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November 24, 2022, 07:00:18 AM |
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All casinos will have unhappy costumers that will scream scam but all issues need to be investigated also. Haven't followed really in detail the ongoing accusations but all cases need to have proof and hopefully it all gets resolved quickly.
Don't forget that there are people who want to blackmail betting websites knowing that the forum have a habit of being hard against betting sites. Several times after having long discussions it turns out the accusers were manipulating to take advantage of the sympathy the community shows. So unless an accusation have enough proof, it's completely waste of time for everyone and harassment for casinos too.
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November 24, 2022, 07:56:20 AM |
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All casinos will have unhappy costumers that will scream scam but all issues need to be investigated also. Haven't followed really in detail the ongoing accusations but all cases need to have proof and hopefully it all gets resolved quickly.
Don't forget that there are people who want to blackmail betting websites knowing that the forum have a habit of being hard against betting sites. Several times after having long discussions it turns out the accusers were manipulating to take advantage of the sympathy the community shows. So unless an accusation have enough proof, it's completely waste of time for everyone and harassment for casinos too. You forget, or neglect, that in many cases the accused party (me, for instance) cannot prove his innocence, because it is impossible. That is why in most countries you are considered innocent unless proven guilty. How would I prove that I only have one account? I cannot think of any way to definitely prove that I only have one account. If you can let me know.
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November 24, 2022, 08:03:02 AM |
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Huh? Every site has their own term & condition, there has some websites that have a term & conditions (Returned your deposit, If you prohibited their term & condition). Especially from Sportsbet user who is violated their t&c (but they are not returned your deposit, in casethey close your account after you withdraw a winning amount more than your deposit) Also, there has some casinos that locked user accounts with the balance you have on the account. It's all depends on the term & condition & each site have their own t&c, off course you are never read that. https://i.ibb.co/ZTymBS3/image.pngBeen here for a long time, and as long not playing against their term & condition all fine. Oh yes, I forget most the time issue I always read on a forum from Sportbet players. Always multi-account because a few reason (Avoiding bet limits, promotion, and some odds stuff like that). Meanwhile, a issue for "CASINO" user is rarely happen. ~XD I never hear before that bookie steal only deposit without play. Really I never hear. Also i publish proof where Stake lie. They say it, they send proofs to askgamblers, but askgamblers answer they dont received nothing. https://ibb.co/W6LmhtjAlso after my post on stakecommunity they banned me: https://ibb.co/yfrbQtYStake became scam.I provide you here many photos like proof. Only deposit steal without play hahaha, big fraud and scam, but soon Interpol knock on their door and newspaper...
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November 24, 2022, 03:03:20 PM |
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All casinos will have unhappy costumers that will scream scam but all issues need to be investigated also. Haven't followed really in detail the ongoing accusations but all cases need to have proof and hopefully it all gets resolved quickly.
Don't forget that there are people who want to blackmail betting websites knowing that the forum have a habit of being hard against betting sites. Several times after having long discussions it turns out the accusers were manipulating to take advantage of the sympathy the community shows. So unless an accusation have enough proof, it's completely waste of time for everyone and harassment for casinos too. I agree with you, at every point in time, casinos are sure to have one to two or even more unhappy customers accusing them of being a scam or something similar. I am just coming from owl.games ann thread and surprisenly, this same accusation is on there as at the time of me typing this reply, many gamblers clearly do not read the rules and terms of service of a casino before depositing money and playing there, they just go ahead and do what ever they like and device all means to win, not caring or wanting to know whether the casino supports such devices or frown at it, they just don't care.. When they are eventually caught which most times, the casino keeps quiet until they win big amount and request a withdrawal, and then the casino takes appropriate action on them.. They come out to scream that the casino is scam, sometimes without proper evidence, and some other times, they hide the evidences that would implicate them, just to gain sympathy from the community.
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November 24, 2022, 04:43:49 PM |
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Should casinos really care though? I mean I get that it does not look like a nice thing to try to blackmail a casino, and that's a bad thing on the side of the user, but at the end of the day, casinos do not have to care about this at all. We are forcing casinos too much to give a proper response, but when there is blackmail going on and users are forcing them to explain themselves, casinos could very well ignore and move on if we didn't force them too. If we ignored the complaint, that would mean the casino could too. We don't, just in case if it's real, but that gives a path to all these people to keep on trying to blackmail as well. Maybe we should try to sort them out as well?
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just saw this on twitter stake. I think it would be very unfortunate if this is passed up like that. Source : https://twitter.com/Stake/status/1595851579579457537?s=20&t=7Ab_GsFYG03n21D_efe11Agoodluck mate
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November 24, 2022, 10:09:32 PM |
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That's a very surprising case if all is true. Because I don't understand why someone would use a limited account to place his bets, if he has other accounts? Moreover odds on Stake are not higher than on other sportsbooks and their promotions are not so interesting, then there is no point in betting there when you have restrictions on your account for someone being an "abuser". Are you using a VPN or something like that to login there?
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November 24, 2022, 10:54:54 PM |
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That's a very surprising case if all is true. Because I don't understand why someone would use a limited account to place his bets, if he has other accounts? Moreover odds on Stake are not higher than on other sportsbooks and their promotions are not so interesting, then there is no point in betting there when you have restrictions on your account for someone being an "abuser". Are you using a VPN or something like that to login there? Thank you for your interest. No, I don't use VPNs or anything like that. My case doesn't make any sense. My account was limited at something like 30$ profit... not a very clever plan to use such an account to abuse anything...
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November 25, 2022, 06:59:36 AM |
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Rumors are post-monthly coming today on chat, let's see if they announce upcoming Christmas and New Year promotions with expected bonus email. Maybe one big raffle or $5mln race is on the line, also missed $50k level up slot challenge from last year events.
The post monthly bonus has been given today. Here is the link for the bonus: https://playstake.io/bonus?code=NovemberPostMonthly2511aHBThere will be more update about bonuses on the cyber Monday. I think that the Christmas and new year promotional announcement will be made in the first week of December month. Anyway, Stake will make some bonus drop on their telegram channel to celebrate the Black Friday.
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All casinos will have unhappy costumers that will scream scam but all issues need to be investigated also. Haven't followed really in detail the ongoing accusations but all cases need to have proof and hopefully it all gets resolved quickly.
Don't forget that there are people who want to blackmail betting websites knowing that the forum have a habit of being hard against betting sites. Several times after having long discussions it turns out the accusers were manipulating to take advantage of the sympathy the community shows. So unless an accusation have enough proof, it's completely waste of time for everyone and harassment for casinos too. That is the biggest problem we have here, people are supporting the complainer a lot more than the casinos, because that has been the case for so many casinos that turned out to be a scammer website. But, stake doesn't have that problem, since they have been here for a long time, that usually means we are talking about people who complain and then others who come here and defend stake. Like in this case as well, I am sure that stake is right and all will be either fixed, or the trouble will be out in the open and why it happened will be known as well. All in all I am guessing that the best thing would be giving stake more time and they will show the clear reason for it.
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November 25, 2022, 10:37:53 AM |
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All casinos will have unhappy costumers that will scream scam but all issues need to be investigated also. Haven't followed really in detail the ongoing accusations but all cases need to have proof and hopefully it all gets resolved quickly.
Don't forget that there are people who want to blackmail betting websites knowing that the forum have a habit of being hard against betting sites. Several times after having long discussions it turns out the accusers were manipulating to take advantage of the sympathy the community shows. So unless an accusation have enough proof, it's completely waste of time for everyone and harassment for casinos too. That is the biggest problem we have here, people are supporting the complainer a lot more than the casinos, because that has been the case for so many casinos that turned out to be a scammer website. But, stake doesn't have that problem, since they have been here for a long time, that usually means we are talking about people who complain and then others who come here and defend stake. People will not support the complainer if the proof is valid and they show all necessary things to support what they are claiming here. But if they just post randomly then accused that they are bad casino for sure people will not support nor tolerate such actions do. I believe many people know already how troll works so if they came here for sure there's no really a problem towards those kind of people since they are easily get busted.
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stakecomisscam
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November 25, 2022, 11:53:57 AM |
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Should casinos really care though? I mean I get that it does not look like a nice thing to try to blackmail a casino, and that's a bad thing on the side of the user, but at the end of the day, casinos do not have to care about this at all. We are forcing casinos too much to give a proper response, but when there is blackmail going on and users are forcing them to explain themselves, casinos could very well ignore and move on if we didn't force them too. If we ignored the complaint, that would mean the casino could too. We don't, just in case if it's real, but that gives a path to all these people to keep on trying to blackmail as well. Maybe we should try to sort them out as well?
I think Stake pay you for good reviews. But I have strong proofs that is Stake scam casino and site. I provide one more proof, that Stake is scam. In my case Askgamblers say, that Stake havent good proofs for blocked my account. https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-complaints/stake-casino-hold-11xrp-depositWhat you asy now about Stake scam. They steal only deposit without play https://ibb.co/B2Y1zddBe careful with Stake. Scam casino!
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November 25, 2022, 12:07:08 PM |
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Should casinos really care though? I mean I get that it does not look like a nice thing to try to blackmail a casino, and that's a bad thing on the side of the user, but at the end of the day, casinos do not have to care about this at all. We are forcing casinos too much to give a proper response, but when there is blackmail going on and users are forcing them to explain themselves, casinos could very well ignore and move on if we didn't force them too. If we ignored the complaint, that would mean the casino could too. We don't, just in case if it's real, but that gives a path to all these people to keep on trying to blackmail as well. Maybe we should try to sort them out as well?
I think Stake pay you for good reviews. But I have strong proofs that is Stake scam casino and site. I provide one more proof, that Stake is scam. In my case Askgamblers say, that Stake havent good proofs for blocked my account. https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-complaints/stake-casino-hold-11xrp-depositWhat you asy now about Stake scam. They steal only deposit without play https://ibb.co/B2Y1zddBe careful with Stake. Scam casino! Are you using VPN when playing on Stake? It might be the case for your multiple account issue but I'm just concerned on the duration of this issue and why KYC is still needed for releasing your money while they already concluded you are using multiple account and just allow you to withdraw so that your account willbe closed. I saw that AskGambler keeps asking for additional evidence for you case. This is a sign that the operator assumption on your case is not that strong but that doesn't mean that they are scam. You should wait on your Askgambler thread since they are already doing there job on helping you to resolved your case. Don't be afraid if you are telling the truth. Askgambler is fair and will not allow fake evidence to justify freezing of your account. All post here about Stake is not paid, Stake is just doing a good job for many years that makes user positive on them. Stay on your askgambler thread or are afradi that you will lose your case?
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SSCEZAR
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November 25, 2022, 12:13:42 PM |
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Should casinos really care though? I mean I get that it does not look like a nice thing to try to blackmail a casino, and that's a bad thing on the side of the user, but at the end of the day, casinos do not have to care about this at all. We are forcing casinos too much to give a proper response, but when there is blackmail going on and users are forcing them to explain themselves, casinos could very well ignore and move on if we didn't force them too. If we ignored the complaint, that would mean the casino could too. We don't, just in case if it's real, but that gives a path to all these people to keep on trying to blackmail as well. Maybe we should try to sort them out as well?
I think Stake pay you for good reviews. But I have strong proofs that is Stake scam casino and site. I provide one more proof, that Stake is scam. In my case Askgamblers say, that Stake havent good proofs for blocked my account. https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-complaints/stake-casino-hold-11xrp-depositWhat you asy now about Stake scam. They steal only deposit without play https://ibb.co/B2Y1zddBe careful with Stake. Scam casino! This with askgambler is so good. This is proof of how unprotected the players are. I hope this is just the beginning of exposing all the scams that have been going on for the past 2 years.
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