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[Zaih]

Primedice seems like a scam, everybody is saying it is? Like it's a trend, 7 of my friends told me not to play there, its rigged?

Just because they didn't win doesn't mean they are a scam

I agree if its rigged why is my account in profit. Your just having bad luck after all it is gambling your not supposed to win every time you play or we would all be rich.

Provable fairness is much more convincing than anyone's account being positive or negative.  Mathematical proof isn't a term used lightly.  Folks can read about this at the links posted above.  I think this question has been more than answered at this point.

Sorry for being such a newbie, but I don't gamble.

How can you make sure that a site is provably fair? Is there a verifier of some kind?

Yeh there are some 3rd party verifiers like the one on www.dicesites.com

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[Fiiasco]

Primedice seems like a scam, everybody is saying it is? Like it's a trend, 7 of my friends told me not to play there, its rigged?

Just because they didn't win doesn't mean they are a scam

I agree if its rigged why is my account in profit. Your just having bad luck after all it is gambling your not supposed to win every time you play or we would all be rich.

Provable fairness is much more convincing than anyone's account being positive or negative.  Mathematical proof isn't a term used lightly.  Folks can read about this at the links posted above.  I think this question has been more than answered at this point.

Sorry for being such a newbie, but I don't gamble.

How can you make sure that a site is provably fair? Is there a verifier of some kind?

Yeh there are some 3rd party verifiers like the one on www.dicesites.com

And do I enter the server hash in there? Or client hash.

Bah

[NLNico]

And do I enter the server hash in there? Or client hash.

Bah

There is no such thing as a client hash. There is only a server seed, server seed hash and client seed.

So for my verifier http://dicesites.com/primedice/verifier it's:

Server seed hash = "Server Seed SHA-256 Hash"
Server seed = "Server Seed Revealed"
Client seed = "Client Seed"

All under "Previous Seed Pair" at the Provably fair tab at Primedice.

You can only verify bets from your previous session. If you see the values only at "Current Seed Pair" with a high number of "Bets Made with pair", you have to "Rerandomize" and randomize your client seed to see the previous server seed. You will then see all the values go to "Previous Seed Pair" including the "Server seed" so you can verify your bets.

Last nonce = The number of bets you made (minus one.) You could remember this from the value "Bets Made with pair" before you randomized your server seed. You can also see this if you click on the details of your last bet under: "Client Seed (nonced)". In the end of that seed it will say ....7ab264-151 or something like that, so your "Last nonce" was 151. Ideally PD could list this under "Previous Seed Pair" BTW, but currently they don't.


For a better understanding of how provably fair works, I advise you to read my article at http://dicesites.com/provably-fair

[Fiiasco]

And do I enter the server hash in there? Or client hash.

Bah

There is no such thing as a client hash. There is only a server seed, server seed hash and client seed.

So for my verifier http://dicesites.com/primedice/verifier it's:

Server seed hash = "Server Seed SHA-256 Hash"
Server seed = "Server Seed Revealed"
Client seed = "Client Seed"

All under "Previous Seed Pair" at the Provably fair tab at Primedice.

You can only verify bets from your previous session. If you see the values only at "Current Seed Pair" with a high number of "Bets Made with pair", you have to "Rerandomize" and randomize your client seed to see the previous server seed. You will then see all the values go to "Previous Seed Pair" including the "Server seed" so you can verify your bets.

Last nonce = The number of bets you made (minus one.) You could remember this from the value "Bets Made with pair" before you randomized your server seed. You can also see this if you click on the details of your last bet under: "Client Seed (nonced)". In the end of that seed it will say ....7ab264-151 or something like that, so your "Last nonce" was 151. Ideally PD could list this under "Previous Seed Pair" BTW, but currently they don't.


For a better understanding of how provably fair works, I advise you to read my article at http://dicesites.com/provably-fair

Right. Sorry for being such a newb because i seriously don't gamble(rarely anyways).

Now I get it, thanks!

[tspacepilot]

And do I enter the server hash in there? Or client hash.

Bah

There is no such thing as a client hash. There is only a server seed, server seed hash and client seed.

So for my verifier http://dicesites.com/primedice/verifier it's:

Server seed hash = "Server Seed SHA-256 Hash"
Server seed = "Server Seed Revealed"
Client seed = "Client Seed"

All under "Previous Seed Pair" at the Provably fair tab at Primedice.

You can only verify bets from your previous session. If you see the values only at "Current Seed Pair" with a high number of "Bets Made with pair", you have to "Rerandomize" and randomize your client seed to see the previous server seed. You will then see all the values go to "Previous Seed Pair" including the "Server seed" so you can verify your bets.

Last nonce = The number of bets you made (minus one.) You could remember this from the value "Bets Made with pair" before you randomized your server seed. You can also see this if you click on the details of your last bet under: "Client Seed (nonced)". In the end of that seed it will say ....7ab264-151 or something like that, so your "Last nonce" was 151. Ideally PD could list this under "Previous Seed Pair" BTW, but currently they don't.


For a better understanding of how provably fair works, I advise you to read my article at http://dicesites.com/provably-fair

Right. Sorry for being such a newb because i seriously don't gamble(rarely anyways).

Now I get it, thanks!

Provable fairness is pretty much the only reason why I play at these dice sites.  Otherwise there's really no way to know if someone is cheating you.  Given the nature of bitcoin and interenet "trustlessness" I personally think provable fairnes is a wonderful thing and I'm glad I was educated about it.

[funtotry]

And do I enter the server hash in there? Or client hash.

Bah

There is no such thing as a client hash. There is only a server seed, server seed hash and client seed.

So for my verifier http://dicesites.com/primedice/verifier it's:

Server seed hash = "Server Seed SHA-256 Hash"
Server seed = "Server Seed Revealed"
Client seed = "Client Seed"

All under "Previous Seed Pair" at the Provably fair tab at Primedice.

You can only verify bets from your previous session. If you see the values only at "Current Seed Pair" with a high number of "Bets Made with pair", you have to "Rerandomize" and randomize your client seed to see the previous server seed. You will then see all the values go to "Previous Seed Pair" including the "Server seed" so you can verify your bets.

Last nonce = The number of bets you made (minus one.) You could remember this from the value "Bets Made with pair" before you randomized your server seed. You can also see this if you click on the details of your last bet under: "Client Seed (nonced)". In the end of that seed it will say ....7ab264-151 or something like that, so your "Last nonce" was 151. Ideally PD could list this under "Previous Seed Pair" BTW, but currently they don't.


For a better understanding of how provably fair works, I advise you to read my article at http://dicesites.com/provably-fair

Right. Sorry for being such a newb because i seriously don't gamble(rarely anyways).

Now I get it, thanks!

Provable fairness is pretty much the only reason why I play at these dice sites.  Otherwise there's really no way to know if someone is cheating you.  Given the nature of bitcoin and interenet "trustlessness" I personally think provable fairnes is a wonderful thing and I'm glad I was educated about it.

Yea because now I am "ruined" by provably fair I probably won't be playing at any casinos or games that aren't. There just no reason to place trust in people who don't prove their bets are fair, they could easily just say you lost and then you lose. If I do gamble I want it to be as fair as possible.

[tspacepilot]

@funtotry, Indeed, gambling can be fun but part of the fun (at least for me) is the learning about statistics and probability that it's caused me to do.  And, playing a game without knowing the rules is nothing but confusing.  Certainly no one wants to be cheated, so, like you say, I stay away from the ones that don't prove they're not cheating.

[funtotry]

@funtotry, Indeed, gambling can be fun but part of the fun (at least for me) is the learning about statistics and probability that it's caused me to do.  And, playing a game without knowing the rules is nothing but confusing.  Certainly no one wants to be cheated, so, like you say, I stay away from the ones that don't prove they're not cheating.

Exactly, without this I would not know what a house edge was, what sha256 is, how hexadecimal can be converted to decimal, and how to calculate probabilities. I have learned alot but sadly I paid the price. Its certainly a very interesting hobby.

[tspacepilot]

@funtotry, Indeed, gambling can be fun but part of the fun (at least for me) is the learning about statistics and probability that it's caused me to do.  And, playing a game without knowing the rules is nothing but confusing.  Certainly no one wants to be cheated, so, like you say, I stay away from the ones that don't prove they're not cheating.

Exactly, without this I would not know what a house edge was, what sha256 is, how hexadecimal can be converted to decimal, and how to calculate probabilities. I have learned alot but sadly I paid the price. Its certainly a very interesting hobby.

Yah, I can relate.  I guess there's no such thing as a free lunch and if we've lost a little money gambling but gained a bit of an education then we not only learned but also had fun (right?). 

[funtotry]

@funtotry, Indeed, gambling can be fun but part of the fun (at least for me) is the learning about statistics and probability that it's caused me to do.  And, playing a game without knowing the rules is nothing but confusing.  Certainly no one wants to be cheated, so, like you say, I stay away from the ones that don't prove they're not cheating.

Exactly, without this I would not know what a house edge was, what sha256 is, how hexadecimal can be converted to decimal, and how to calculate probabilities. I have learned alot but sadly I paid the price. Its certainly a very interesting hobby.

Yah, I can relate.  I guess there's no such thing as a free lunch and if we've lost a little money gambling but gained a bit of an education then we not only learned but also had fun (right?). 

Yea, paying for school is the same thing. You pay for it but you get an education in return. Although you can probably learn without losing money but its not as fun (You don't exactly get to experience it first hand)

[adaseb]

And do I enter the server hash in there? Or client hash.

Bah

There is no such thing as a client hash. There is only a server seed, server seed hash and client seed.

So for my verifier http://dicesites.com/primedice/verifier it's:

Server seed hash = "Server Seed SHA-256 Hash"
Server seed = "Server Seed Revealed"
Client seed = "Client Seed"

All under "Previous Seed Pair" at the Provably fair tab at Primedice.

You can only verify bets from your previous session. If you see the values only at "Current Seed Pair" with a high number of "Bets Made with pair", you have to "Rerandomize" and randomize your client seed to see the previous server seed. You will then see all the values go to "Previous Seed Pair" including the "Server seed" so you can verify your bets.

Last nonce = The number of bets you made (minus one.) You could remember this from the value "Bets Made with pair" before you randomized your server seed. You can also see this if you click on the details of your last bet under: "Client Seed (nonced)". In the end of that seed it will say ....7ab264-151 or something like that, so your "Last nonce" was 151. Ideally PD could list this under "Previous Seed Pair" BTW, but currently they don't.


For a better understanding of how provably fair works, I advise you to read my article at http://dicesites.com/provably-fair

Yes but its my understanding that the client seed is rarely reset. Usually for every session its the same, unless you manually reset it.

So after 1 bet the webmaster can know your client seed.

[Shogen]

Yes but its my understanding that the client seed is rarely reset. Usually for every session its the same, unless you manually reset it.

So after 1 bet the webmaster can know your client seed.

If you don't change your client seed manually, it won't be changed even after logging off.

True that the site know your client seed, but don't forget the server seed is set and its hash is given to you before you set your client seed.

[MICRO]

Yes but its my understanding that the client seed is rarely reset. Usually for every session its the same, unless you manually reset it.

So after 1 bet the webmaster can know your client seed.

If you don't change your client seed manually, it won't be changed even after logging off.

True that the site know your client seed, but don't forget the server seed is set and its hash is given to you before you set your client seed.

And after u change ur client seed u can check all the bets so u know they are not manipulated after site learned ur client seed.

[thebitcoinquiz.com]

And do I enter the server hash in there? Or client hash.

Bah

There is no such thing as a client hash. There is only a server seed, server seed hash and client seed.

So for my verifier http://dicesites.com/primedice/verifier it's:

Server seed hash = "Server Seed SHA-256 Hash"
Server seed = "Server Seed Revealed"
Client seed = "Client Seed"

All under "Previous Seed Pair" at the Provably fair tab at Primedice.

You can only verify bets from your previous session. If you see the values only at "Current Seed Pair" with a high number of "Bets Made with pair", you have to "Rerandomize" and randomize your client seed to see the previous server seed. You will then see all the values go to "Previous Seed Pair" including the "Server seed" so you can verify your bets.

Last nonce = The number of bets you made (minus one.) You could remember this from the value "Bets Made with pair" before you randomized your server seed. You can also see this if you click on the details of your last bet under: "Client Seed (nonced)". In the end of that seed it will say ....7ab264-151 or something like that, so your "Last nonce" was 151. Ideally PD could list this under "Previous Seed Pair" BTW, but currently they don't.


For a better understanding of how provably fair works, I advise you to read my article at http://dicesites.com/provably-fair

Yes but its my understanding that the client seed is rarely reset. Usually for every session its the same, unless you manually reset it.

So after 1 bet the webmaster can know your client seed.

The webmaster can know it anytime and no, sometimes when you don't change your seed for long, the site asks you to input your own client seed to make things fair and to ensure you that you are not being cheated. Rest has been explained by micro ^^

[aNtiClocK]

I think its really a best site to earn some BTC. Yesterday i deposited 3$ and made 23$ with in half an hour

[jorgelugra]

I think its really a best site to earn some BTC. Yesterday i deposited 3$ and made 23$ with in half an hour

so you are lucky because i have tried and i lost everytime

[funtotry]

I think its really a best site to earn some BTC. Yesterday i deposited 3$ and made 23$ with in half an hour

23$ is a huge return from 3$. Thats about 8x return which is about a 10-15% chance of that happening. Imagine if you deposited 3k and came out with 23k. You are pretty luck! What bets did you make to get 23$?

[anshar]

I think its really a best site to earn some BTC. Yesterday i deposited 3$ and made 23$ with in half an hour

23$ is a huge return from 3$. Thats about 8x return which is about a 10-15% chance of that happening. Imagine if you deposited 3k and came out with 23k. You are pretty luck! What bets did you make to get 23$?

Yeah but when people play $3, they play like its nothing. If I was playing $3K I'd be pissing myself, and I wouldn't make crazy bets.

[funtotry]

I think its really a best site to earn some BTC. Yesterday i deposited 3$ and made 23$ with in half an hour

23$ is a huge return from 3$. Thats about 8x return which is about a 10-15% chance of that happening. Imagine if you deposited 3k and came out with 23k. You are pretty luck! What bets did you make to get 23$?

Yeah but when people play $3, they play like its nothing. If I was playing $3K I'd be pissing myself, and I wouldn't make crazy bets.

True, when I deposit pretty much nothing (0.002 btc or something like that) I often go crazy because the amount doesn't matter to me if I lose but if I win then yes it does matter. I wouldn't do a yolo 10x bet on 3k dollars though

[waterpile]

I think its really a best site to earn some BTC. Yesterday i deposited 3$ and made 23$ with in half an hour

23$ is a huge return from 3$. Thats about 8x return which is about a 10-15% chance of that happening. Imagine if you deposited 3k and came out with 23k. You are pretty luck! What bets did you make to get 23$?

Yeah but when people play $3, they play like its nothing. If I was playing $3K I'd be pissing myself, and I wouldn't make crazy bets.

peple have different status in life so maybe they can afford to lose $3k.