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[grendel25]

SO WHY DOES THIS SCAM SITE ALWAYS HAVE MORE REDS THAN GREENS PLAYS? I HAVE WAGERED MORE THAN 10 BTC AND THE FUCKING REDS ARE ALWAYS AND I MEAN ALWAYS MORE THAN THE GREENS. WAY MORE! CARE TO EXPLAIN?

It's nothing too unusual about freak bad luck, after all someone has to be the unlucky 1-in-a-million case.

But fortunately PrimeDice provides you with the tools to check if you're just unlucky or were cheated. Give it a read here: https://primedice.com/verify

The simple way to check is before you start gambling save in a notepad the "server seed hash", then set your own custom client seed (and write that down too). Once you're finished playing, hit the reveal server secret button. Copy and paste that server seed into DiceSite's excellent tool:

http://dicesites.com/primedice/verifier

And make sure the results match.  Before you do that for real, claim a few free bits from the PrimeDice faucet and attempt this procedure and make sure you can see how it works.

Honestly, verifying bets is satisfying. You can remove all the doubts from your mind about the site being fair or not.  =)

All that the provably fair thing proves is that there was no interference from the house to absolutely guarantee that the house would win any particular bet.  The problem is that 'fair' is such an arbitrary term.  In the long run, the player will always lose and of course sometimes it doesn't take that long.  Well, actually, I'd say that it never really takes long at all.  The key to coming out ahead at gambling is walking away when you are ahead and minimizing and reducing the exposure to risk.  Any time you make a wager you expose yourself to risk.  But back on the 'provably fair' angle... people tend to not understand the "kelly" system or how that mixes with other factors rather it be bet size or any other multitude of factors that go into these algorithms designed to make the house profitable.

[Brewins]

SO WHY DOES THIS SCAM SITE ALWAYS HAVE MORE REDS THAN GREENS PLAYS? I HAVE WAGERED MORE THAN 10 BTC AND THE FUCKING REDS ARE ALWAYS AND I MEAN ALWAYS MORE THAN THE GREENS. WAY MORE! CARE TO EXPLAIN?

what were your odds of winning?

[DJ Crypto]

SO WHY DOES THIS SCAM SITE ALWAYS HAVE MORE REDS THAN GREENS PLAYS? I HAVE WAGERED MORE THAN 10 BTC AND THE FUCKING REDS ARE ALWAYS AND I MEAN ALWAYS MORE THAN THE GREENS. WAY MORE! CARE TO EXPLAIN?

what were your odds of winning?

49.50% since that shithole has got 1% house edge. You could not believe the amount of games I have made and everytime the reds outcome the greens but by far. Like someone said no way anyone will win on the longrun.

[glenw]

All that the provably fair thing proves is that there was no interference from the house to absolutely guarantee that the house would win any particular bet.  The problem is that 'fair' is such an arbitrary term.  In the long run, the player will always lose and of course sometimes it doesn't take that long.

No, it's really simple. It's fair because it does exactly what it claims to do.

But back on the 'provably fair' angle... people tend to not understand the "kelly" system or how that mixes with other factors rather it be bet size or any other multitude of factors that go into these algorithms designed to make the house profitable.

The only one who doesn't understand is you. None of those are an input to the provably fair system. In fact, the kelly only is used to determine max bet limits to prevent unacceptable risk

[Aleator]

 Betterbets doesn'5 have 3 million dollar worth of bets every week I am assuming BUT ;

 I made 1000 1 satoshi bets under one minute.



 Primedice should be making enough profits to find a solution to this immensely slow horrible timing of each bet.

[katerniko1]

 Betterbets doesn'5 have 3 million dollar worth of bets every week I am assuming BUT ;

 I made 1000 1 satoshi bets under one minute.



 Primedice should be making enough profits to find a solution to this immensely slow horrible timing of each bet.

well yeah betterbets have lightining speed but still primedice is biggest dice site and you need to forgive them on some problems they are having :/
you can't compare betterbets and primedice.. both sites are good but they are not for comparing
regards.
-Katerniko1

[Sweeet]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1147981.new#new check this out
Or this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOQw79JQbWc&feature=youtu.be

[talkbitcoin]

SO WHY DOES THIS SCAM SITE ALWAYS HAVE MORE REDS THAN GREENS PLAYS? I HAVE WAGERED MORE THAN 10 BTC AND THE FUCKING REDS ARE ALWAYS AND I MEAN ALWAYS MORE THAN THE GREENS. WAY MORE! CARE TO EXPLAIN?

stop gambling on dice and you will have a happy life

[Kiritsugu]

ALL Primedice users please be aware!!!

Someone is repeatedly creating accounts advertising a primedice.tk domain that is 100% fake and is a phishing attempt to steal your username and password, so please do not trust it!  I've muted several accounts attempting this, but somehow people still keep getting PMs, so please keep your best interest in mind and be careful of strange links!

Please consider both Ignoring whatever user is spamming you with these links, and enabling Two Factor Authorization for extra security!  Nobody likes to have their accounts stolen!

[Knathein]

ALL Primedice users please be aware!!!

Someone is repeatedly creating accounts advertising a [Suspicious link removed] domain that is 100% fake and is a phishing attempt to steal your username and password, so please do not trust it!  I've muted several accounts attempting this, but somehow people still keep getting PMs, so please keep your best interest in mind and be careful of strange links!

Please consider both Ignoring whatever user is spamming you with these links, and enabling Two Factor Authorization for extra security!  Nobody likes to have their accounts stolen!

I do agree with this. I have seen this same PM about "I can get 0.01" and above with their new faucet system, about 10 times within the past hour.
Do not click the link or it could result in either your PD account getting hacked, or your actual PC getting a virus.

[Pony789]

SO WHY DOES THIS SCAM SITE ALWAYS HAVE MORE REDS THAN GREENS PLAYS? I HAVE WAGERED MORE THAN 10 BTC AND THE FUCKING REDS ARE ALWAYS AND I MEAN ALWAYS MORE THAN THE GREENS. WAY MORE! CARE TO EXPLAIN?

what were your odds of winning?

49.50% since that shithole has got 1% house edge. You could not believe the amount of games I have made and everytime the reds outcome the greens but by far. Like someone said no way anyone will win on the longrun.

yup gamblers will lose in the long run, but that doesn't mean it is a scam. The site has already clearly told you that you have 49.5% to win your bet, and you can choose to play it or choose to stop playing at any time.

[Swordsoffreedom]

ALL Primedice users please be aware!!!

Someone is repeatedly creating accounts advertising a primedice.tk domain that is 100% fake and is a phishing attempt to steal your username and password, so please do not trust it!  I've muted several accounts attempting this, but somehow people still keep getting PMs, so please keep your best interest in mind and be careful of strange links!

Please consider both Ignoring whatever user is spamming you with these links, and enabling Two Factor Authorization for extra security!  Nobody likes to have their accounts stolen!

Thanks for the heads up, hate it when PM's are sent advertising sites that scam people out of their coins.
Haven't received a PM yet but the format and body of what the message looks like no links included would be good to help other users spot it in the wild.

[birdcat90]

SO WHY DOES THIS SCAM SITE ALWAYS HAVE MORE REDS THAN GREENS PLAYS? I HAVE WAGERED MORE THAN 10 BTC AND THE FUCKING REDS ARE ALWAYS AND I MEAN ALWAYS MORE THAN THE GREENS. WAY MORE! CARE TO EXPLAIN?

almost all dice site the same,,on 2x payout there will be more reds than greens...

so thats explain how house of edges work,,right?and yeah you need to verify it and accept the result if it true..

[JerryCurlzzz]

SO WHY DOES THIS SCAM SITE ALWAYS HAVE MORE REDS THAN GREENS PLAYS? I HAVE WAGERED MORE THAN 10 BTC AND THE FUCKING REDS ARE ALWAYS AND I MEAN ALWAYS MORE THAN THE GREENS. WAY MORE! CARE TO EXPLAIN?

almost all dice site the same,,on 2x payout there will be more reds than greens...

so thats explain how house of edges work,,right?and yeah you need to verify it and accept the result if it true..

Eh no? Can you please explain why is there more reds than greens on 2x payout bets?

Also, try to do some tests. If you do 1000 0.00000001 BTC bets, you will have WAY more greens than with 1000 0.00001 BTC, interesting right?

[DJ Crypto]

SO WHY DOES THIS SCAM SITE ALWAYS HAVE MORE REDS THAN GREENS PLAYS? I HAVE WAGERED MORE THAN 10 BTC AND THE FUCKING REDS ARE ALWAYS AND I MEAN ALWAYS MORE THAN THE GREENS. WAY MORE! CARE TO EXPLAIN?

almost all dice site the same,,on 2x payout there will be more reds than greens...

so thats explain how house of edges work,,right?and yeah you need to verify it and accept the result if it true..

Eh no? Can you please explain why is there more reds than greens on 2x payout bets?

Also, try to do some tests. If you do 1000 0.00000001 BTC bets, you will have WAY more greens than with 1000 0.00001 BTC, interesting right?

TOUCHE. I also noticed that for example if you have a setup strategy of rasing the bet by 5% on a win or a lose and start at 1000 satoshi you can have some streaks of greens and it usually they outcome th streak of reds but as soon those bets are raised to 5000  satoshi you will start to see the reds outcoming the grrens to a point that you cannot stop the dice because you are already in minus profit so at this point you will let it go abit further to at least stop the dice in profit just to start again the same bet cycle. NOW ISNT THIS SUSPICIOUS? WHERE IS THE FAIRNESS OF THESE DICES?

[arallmuus]

NOW ISNT THIS SUSPICIOUS?

Not at all

WHERE IS THE FAIRNESS OF THESE DICES?

The fairness lies in the provably fair system, Fair does not means you will win alot, does not mean you will not lose and also does not mean that you wont see this crazy streak . Unless you are aware of this but even at 49.5 % chance of winning someone could suffer 23 red streak ( the highest record so far )

Provably fair means that you will be able to verify if the site is cheating / rigging your roll so if you have suspicion that the site is not fair at all then what you will need to do is to prove it using a third party verifier like this one

http://dicesites.com/primedice/verifier

Here is a references on how to do it : http://dicesites.com/provably-fair

[Kiritsugu]

NOW ISNT THIS SUSPICIOUS?

Not at all

WHERE IS THE FAIRNESS OF THESE DICES?

The fairness lies in the provably fair system, Fair does not means you will win alot, does not mean you will not lose and also does not mean that you wont see this crazy streak . Unless you are aware of this but even at 49.5 % chance of winning someone could suffer 23 red streak ( the highest record so far )

Provably fair means that you will be able to verify if the site is cheating / rigging your roll so if you have suspicion that the site is not fair at all then what you will need to do is to prove it using a third party verifier like this one

http://dicesites.com/primedice/verifier

Here is a references on how to do it : http://dicesites.com/provably-fair

He is exactly right.  On top of what he said, we have users that have won hundreds of Bitcoin legitimately.  If PD really was rigged, don't you think we would have prevented them from winning all that?

As he said, all rolls are completely provably fair.  You may just have either bad luck, or you can change your seed if you wish.

One thing I tell people over and over again, is this: All gambling is rigged, it's called the house edge.  If you always won more times than you lost, or there was a way to circumvent losing, then gambling wouldn't exist.

[DJ Crypto]

I dont think you guys really understand. I dont care if you can verify if the games are legit on the results. The game somehow is made for you to lose. You will not win on the longrun so it is not fair. no matter what you do. what bets you make. What strategies you use. They will take your money on the long run. someone said here the largest red streak was 23. Have you ever seen a green streak like that? I am sure you didnt. Why? Cause it is not fair. Understand now?

[arallmuus]

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You may just have either bad luck, or you can change your seed if you wish.[/quote]

Some people may believe in "magical seed" but this thing will only add some variance because in the end the result will still be "random" which means that huge red streak might still happen

One thing I tell people over and over again, is this: All gambling is rigged, it's called the house edge.

Rigged in a matter of giving the house advantages, otherwise it would be call as charity site instead of gambling site  

If you always won more times than you lost, or there was a way to circumvent losing, then gambling wouldn't exist.

Some people just dont understand that gambling isnt suppose to make someone rich in a night. Some people could be lucky and be rich overnight but that doesnt mean everyone else will. Just a matter of fact, there will be always more loser than a winner otherwise no one will be making a gambling site for profit . Sad truth indeed that no one knows this fact before attempting to gamble

You will not win on the longrun so it is not fair.

Of course , otherwise no one will make a gambling site

They will take your money on the long run.

Yes they will and you repeated this already

someone said here the largest red streak was 23.

Not someone, it was dooglus and I only repeated what he had stated

Have you ever seen a green streak like that? I am sure you didnt. Why? Cause it is not fair. Understand now?

What I understood is that you are raging because you lose, as a matter of fact I have ever got 19 green streak with 2x multiplier

[Kiritsugu]

I dont think you guys really understand. I dont care if you can verify if the games are legit on the results. The game somehow is made for you to lose. You will not win on the longrun so it is not fair. no matter what you do. what bets you make. What strategies you use. They will take your money on the long run. someone said here the largest red streak was 23. Have you ever seen a green streak like that? I am sure you didnt. Why? Cause it is not fair. Understand now?

You can verify each bet yourself 100%, and I'm sure you haven't even tried to, yet you're saying PD is unfair.

I already told you, gambling is made for you to lose.  If everyone could win at gambling, it wouldn't exist because there'd be no profit in a casino, it would just be a charity event.

Of course you won't win in the long run, because the house edge will eventually catch up to you.  If you had a 23x green streak, you wouldn't be here claiming it's unfair would you?  No, you would say you were lucky.  So a 23x red streak is simply someone being unlucky.