trilyuner
Member
Offline
Activity: 316
Merit: 10
|
|
September 11, 2018, 03:17:02 AM |
|
I have checked there but the server seed and nonce didnt show up https://ibb.co/kCLyZpServer seed shows N/A I see you are taking this screenshot using your phone.. have you tried to use a computer? I have just checked mine using a desktop computer and it works pretty fine for me.. could you try it out please? Unfortunately , I dont have desktop or pc. I have told this to support , they said they will find it in their database. But it is almost 1 month and still I cant find my server seed
|
|
|
|
|
|
"I'm sure that in 20 years there will either be very large transaction volume or no volume." -- Satoshi
|
|
|
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
|
|
|
Real14Hero
|
|
September 11, 2018, 05:51:04 AM |
|
I have checked there but the server seed and nonce didnt show up https://ibb.co/kCLyZpServer seed shows N/A I see you are taking this screenshot using your phone.. have you tried to use a computer? I have just checked mine using a desktop computer and it works pretty fine for me.. could you try it out please? Unfortunately , I dont have desktop or pc. I have told this to support , they said they will find it in their database. But it is almost 1 month and still I cant find my server seed It might be a simple UI issue as far as the mobile site is concerned. However its surprising to know that you were unable to get your hands on any computer / desktop in a period of one month. Dont you have any desktop device around your place / neighborhood?
|
|
|
|
trilyuner
Member
Offline
Activity: 316
Merit: 10
|
|
September 11, 2018, 11:06:01 AM |
|
I have checked there but the server seed and nonce didnt show up https://ibb.co/kCLyZpServer seed shows N/A I see you are taking this screenshot using your phone.. have you tried to use a computer? I have just checked mine using a desktop computer and it works pretty fine for me.. could you try it out please? Unfortunately , I dont have desktop or pc. I have told this to support , they said they will find it in their database. But it is almost 1 month and still I cant find my server seed It might be a simple UI issue as far as the mobile site is concerned. However its surprising to know that you were unable to get your hands on any computer / desktop in a period of one month. Dont you have any desktop device around your place / neighborhood? I dont know if there is UI issue. But I try login my PD ID using another device and it shows the same ini previous seed (server seed and nonce didnt shown) Need that server seed and nonce to verify my bet
|
|
|
|
Symphonized
Member
Offline
Activity: 2254
Merit: 57
Primedice.com & Stake.com
|
|
September 11, 2018, 09:59:41 PM |
|
(...)
I dont know if there is UI issue. But I try login my PD ID using another device and it shows the same ini previous seed (server seed and nonce didnt shown) Need that server seed and nonce to verify my bet
Then should be Code problem for Portable devices. Devs should take a look into it. In the meantime you will have to find some other solution, as for example: Use a friend's computer to check it out. If the problem persists even using a normal Computer, then you might have an issue with your ACCOUNT: In which Devs should still take a look from your statments with Support Team. Have you tried reseting seed?
|
|
|
|
trilyuner
Member
Offline
Activity: 316
Merit: 10
|
|
September 11, 2018, 10:33:58 PM |
|
(...)
I dont know if there is UI issue. But I try login my PD ID using another device and it shows the same ini previous seed (server seed and nonce didnt shown) Need that server seed and nonce to verify my bet
Then should be Code problem for Portable devices. Devs should take a look into it. In the meantime you will have to find some other solution, as for example: Use a friend's computer to check it out. If the problem persists even using a normal Computer, then you might have an issue with your ACCOUNT: In which Devs should still take a look from your statments with Support Team. Have you tried reseting seed? If I reseting seed again , I wont be able to verify my last bet
|
|
|
|
zahra4571
|
|
September 12, 2018, 05:45:24 AM |
|
(...)
I dont know if there is UI issue. But I try login my PD ID using another device and it shows the same ini previous seed (server seed and nonce didnt shown) Need that server seed and nonce to verify my bet
Then should be Code problem for Portable devices. Devs should take a look into it. In the meantime you will have to find some other solution, as for example: Use a friend's computer to check it out. If the problem persists even using a normal Computer, then you might have an issue with your ACCOUNT: In which Devs should still take a look from your statments with Support Team. Have you tried reseting seed? If I reseting seed again , I wont be able to verify my last bet What is your last bet ID?
|
|
|
|
trilyuner
Member
Offline
Activity: 316
Merit: 10
|
|
September 12, 2018, 06:29:01 AM |
|
(...)
I dont know if there is UI issue. But I try login my PD ID using another device and it shows the same ini previous seed (server seed and nonce didnt shown) Need that server seed and nonce to verify my bet
Then should be Code problem for Portable devices. Devs should take a look into it. In the meantime you will have to find some other solution, as for example: Use a friend's computer to check it out. If the problem persists even using a normal Computer, then you might have an issue with your ACCOUNT: In which Devs should still take a look from your statments with Support Team. Have you tried reseting seed? If I reseting seed again , I wont be able to verify my last bet What is your last bet ID? After last maintenance, My last history bet ID is dissapear. I didnt save it or screenshot it
|
|
|
|
zahra4571
|
|
September 12, 2018, 07:16:38 AM |
|
How would you know what roll to verify if you don't have bet IDs Site have been updated about 6 month ago and whole back-end changed code so seed has to be rotated. Bets you made on old site are not in our browser memory anymore, neither could be fetched with new API because it seems they started using fresh database after update due to better site workflow.
|
|
|
|
bur4n
Member
Offline
Activity: 167
Merit: 12
|
|
September 12, 2018, 07:17:49 AM |
|
How would you know what roll to verify if you don't have bet IDs Site have been updated about 6 month ago and whole back-end changed code so seed has to be rotated. Bets you made on old site are not in our browser memory anymore, neither could be fetched with new API because it seems they started using fresh database after update due to better site workflow. Good point. Easy to manipulate with.
|
|
|
|
trilyuner
Member
Offline
Activity: 316
Merit: 10
|
|
September 12, 2018, 08:34:48 AM |
|
How would you know what roll to verify if you don't have bet IDs Site have been updated about 6 month ago and whole back-end changed code so seed has to be rotated. Bets you made on old site are not in our browser memory anymore, neither could be fetched with new API because it seems they started using fresh database after update due to better site workflow. If PD could provide server seed and nonce , I only need to verify my last 23 bet (23 red streaks) I think last maintenance happen 16 august 2018 , not 6 month ago My first conversation with support at 16 august 2018 since I cant find previous server seed and nonce As mentioned previously, PD is being updated. There's a wide variety of performance upgrades and a lot of minor design changes. We've moved servers and users will have to set a new seed to continue playing. I'll be posting the full changelog after the update is here, feel free to post/PM feedback regarding the changes as we'll be monitoring this thread.
Thank you
This maintenance
|
|
|
|
BTCevo
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1008
|
|
September 12, 2018, 04:00:08 PM |
|
Actually it is not free money because you need to complete the quest in order to get paid. It is different from what you said, but if someone lucky enough to get profit then it must be free money then
Yes, of course, but almost all promotions have a house edge that benefits the players.Is this how the house edge really work? I do not think any house edge would actually benefits the players. Take the "Colonial Challenge" of this week ("Make 3 winning bets with any of these numbers: 13.31, 24.42, 57.75, or 68.86"), you are still playing at a -1% house edge, but you are going to get a prize if you hit those numbers. If you play at the minimum giveaway bet (100 satoshis), your house edge is actually positive in this event. To make it easy to calculate, let's pretend that, instead of "Make 3 winning bets with any of these numbers: 13.31, 24.42, 57.75, or 68.86" it is ""Make 1 winning bet with any of these numbers: 13.31, 24.42, 57.75, or 68.86"; the chance of getting any of those numbers is 0,04%, if the prize is divided between 50 players (0.08BTC/50 = 0.0016BTC each), and you play with 100 satoshis, and you bet "lower than 98", then you house edge in 10000 dices is: 9776 WINS = +1 satoshi 200 LOSES = -100 satoshis 4 WINS+CHALLENGE = 160001 satoshis TOTAL = 629776 satoshis positive. 629776/10000= Actual HE is 62% in favor of the player.Of course the HE varies depending of the promotion and how many players participate of the giveaway, and the strategy you use to achieve it. But all of these numbers is only assumption which we can either hit it lower than 10k bets or even higher than 10k bets. And to think that you only have 200 lose when you are trying this. I do not really think that it is really work, although you have this calculation does not really mean that you are going to hit it base on these strong calculation Anyway how about if it more than 50 players hit? I think with this big site, it is pretty easy to get more than 50 players to join this +EV club event
|
|
|
|
Radiante
Member
Offline
Activity: 280
Merit: 15
|
|
September 12, 2018, 09:26:50 PM Last edit: September 12, 2018, 10:03:39 PM by Radiante |
|
Actually it is not free money because you need to complete the quest in order to get paid. It is different from what you said, but if someone lucky enough to get profit then it must be free money then
Yes, of course, but almost all promotions have a house edge that benefits the players.Is this how the house edge really work? I do not think any house edge would actually benefits the players. Take the "Colonial Challenge" of this week ("Make 3 winning bets with any of these numbers: 13.31, 24.42, 57.75, or 68.86"), you are still playing at a -1% house edge, but you are going to get a prize if you hit those numbers. If you play at the minimum giveaway bet (100 satoshis), your house edge is actually positive in this event. To make it easy to calculate, let's pretend that, instead of "Make 3 winning bets with any of these numbers: 13.31, 24.42, 57.75, or 68.86" it is ""Make 1 winning bet with any of these numbers: 13.31, 24.42, 57.75, or 68.86"; the chance of getting any of those numbers is 0,04%, if the prize is divided between 50 players (0.08BTC/50 = 0.0016BTC each), and you play with 100 satoshis, and you bet "lower than 98", then you house edge in 10000 dices is: 9776 WINS = +1 satoshi 200 LOSES = -100 satoshis 4 WINS+CHALLENGE = 160001 satoshis TOTAL = 629776 satoshis positive. 629776/10000= Actual HE is 62% in favor of the player.Of course the HE varies depending of the promotion and how many players participate of the giveaway, and the strategy you use to achieve it. But all of these numbers is only assumption which we can either hit it lower than 10k bets or even higher than 10k bets. And to think that you only have 200 lose when you are trying this. I do not really think that it is really work, although you have this calculation does not really mean that you are going to hit it base on these strong calculation Anyway how about if it more than 50 players hit? I think with this big site, it is pretty easy to get more than 50 players to join this +EV club event It is not assumptions, only probability under certain conditions (for example, betting the minimum 100 satoshis to achieve the challenge): on top of the normal prize, you get an additional prize thanks to the giveaway, actually making the House Edge negative (and positive for the player) Even if you have 1000 players participating, the House Edge will still favor the player, in 10000 dices the results will be: 9776 WINS = +1 satoshi (9776*1= +9776) 200 LOSES = -100 satoshis (200*-100= -20000) 4 WINS+CHALLENGE = (0.08BTC/1000 players=0.00008BTC/8000 satoshis each) [(4*1)+(8000*4)= 32004] TOTAL = 9776-20000+32004 = 21780 satoshis positive 21780/10000= Actual HE is still 2,178% in favor of the player.
|
|
|
|
trilyuner
Member
Offline
Activity: 316
Merit: 10
|
|
September 13, 2018, 06:08:19 AM |
|
How would you know what roll to verify if you don't have bet IDs Site have been updated about 6 month ago and whole back-end changed code so seed has to be rotated. Bets you made on old site are not in our browser memory anymore, neither could be fetched with new API because it seems they started using fresh database after update due to better site workflow. If PD could provide server seed and nonce , I only need to verify my last 23 bet (23 red streaks) I think last maintenance happen 16 august 2018 , not 6 month ago My first conversation with support at 16 august 2018 since I cant find previous server seed and nonce As mentioned previously, PD is being updated. There's a wide variety of performance upgrades and a lot of minor design changes. We've moved servers and users will have to set a new seed to continue playing. I'll be posting the full changelog after the update is here, feel free to post/PM feedback regarding the changes as we'll be monitoring this thread.
Thank you
This maintenance Still no response from support
|
|
|
|
zahra4571
|
|
September 13, 2018, 06:27:09 AM |
|
How would you know what roll to verify if you don't have bet IDs Site have been updated about 6 month ago and whole back-end changed code so seed has to be rotated. Bets you made on old site are not in our browser memory anymore, neither could be fetched with new API because it seems they started using fresh database after update due to better site workflow. If PD could provide server seed and nonce , I only need to verify my last 23 bet (23 red streaks) I think last maintenance happen 16 august 2018 , not 6 month ago My first conversation with support at 16 august 2018 since I cant find previous server seed and nonce As mentioned previously, PD is being updated. There's a wide variety of performance upgrades and a lot of minor design changes. We've moved servers and users will have to set a new seed to continue playing. I'll be posting the full changelog after the update is here, feel free to post/PM feedback regarding the changes as we'll be monitoring this thread.
Thank you
This maintenance Ah, I see now, that was second update. I thought about this one big platform update to PD5 version where everything has changed. Primedice 5 has been officially launched!
This update is mainly an update to our back-end, Primedice 4 was running off restrictive legacy code from a couple years ago. It's been challenging to add features like multi-currencies & multiplayer with our old system so we've completely replaced it with something which will scale and let us quickly integrate new features. The design has been touched up a bit and everything should be a bit more responsive & quicker.
We're aware there are small bugs floating around, let us know and we'll patch them as quickly as possible. We weren't able to migrate old seeds so we recommend setting a custom seed, I apologize for a lack of notice regarding this but we wanted to get the website up today. If the website looks funny we recommend clearing cache and hard reloading.
Happy rolling!
If you made bets on new platform then you can easily see your last bets through API https://api.primedice.com/graphql and get seed from it. Just paste this code and run it: query userid{user(name: "YOUR_USERNAME_GOES_HERE"){betList{iid}}} If you asking for historical bets seed pair then you wont get them due to major update. Each time the seed require change you will be notified and button to accept it will be shown on your profile. It's a bit silly to questioning provably-fair technology if you don't know how to use it properly.
|
|
|
|
trilyuner
Member
Offline
Activity: 316
Merit: 10
|
|
September 13, 2018, 11:54:49 AM |
|
How would you know what roll to verify if you don't have bet IDs Site have been updated about 6 month ago and whole back-end changed code so seed has to be rotated. Bets you made on old site are not in our browser memory anymore, neither could be fetched with new API because it seems they started using fresh database after update due to better site workflow. If PD could provide server seed and nonce , I only need to verify my last 23 bet (23 red streaks) I think last maintenance happen 16 august 2018 , not 6 month ago My first conversation with support at 16 august 2018 since I cant find previous server seed and nonce As mentioned previously, PD is being updated. There's a wide variety of performance upgrades and a lot of minor design changes. We've moved servers and users will have to set a new seed to continue playing. I'll be posting the full changelog after the update is here, feel free to post/PM feedback regarding the changes as we'll be monitoring this thread.
Thank you
This maintenance Ah, I see now, that was second update. I thought about this one big platform update to PD5 version where everything has changed. Primedice 5 has been officially launched!
This update is mainly an update to our back-end, Primedice 4 was running off restrictive legacy code from a couple years ago. It's been challenging to add features like multi-currencies & multiplayer with our old system so we've completely replaced it with something which will scale and let us quickly integrate new features. The design has been touched up a bit and everything should be a bit more responsive & quicker.
We're aware there are small bugs floating around, let us know and we'll patch them as quickly as possible. We weren't able to migrate old seeds so we recommend setting a custom seed, I apologize for a lack of notice regarding this but we wanted to get the website up today. If the website looks funny we recommend clearing cache and hard reloading.
Happy rolling!
If you made bets on new platform then you can easily see your last bets through API https://api.primedice.com/graphql and get seed from it. Just paste this code and run it: query userid{user(name: "YOUR_USERNAME_GOES_HERE"){betList{iid}}} If you asking for historical bets seed pair then you wont get them due to major update. Each time the seed require change you will be notified and button to accept it will be shown on your profile. It's a bit silly to questioning provably-fair technology if you don't know how to use it properly. If I provide you with my username, could you do it for me? Because Im stupid in technology seriously
|
|
|
|
Symphonized
Member
Offline
Activity: 2254
Merit: 57
Primedice.com & Stake.com
|
|
September 13, 2018, 09:42:08 PM |
|
(...)
I dont know if there is UI issue. But I try login my PD ID using another device and it shows the same ini previous seed (server seed and nonce didnt shown) Need that server seed and nonce to verify my bet
Then should be Code problem for Portable devices. Devs should take a look into it. In the meantime you will have to find some other solution, as for example: Use a friend's computer to check it out. If the problem persists even using a normal Computer, then you might have an issue with your ACCOUNT: In which Devs should still take a look from your statments with Support Team. Have you tried reseting seed? If I reseting seed again , I wont be able to verify my last bet Just for the record, when i've asked you to reset the seed, is so it might reset your account seed settings in a way that it will start showing further / future hashed seeds = returning it back to normal.
|
|
|
|
xandry
Staff
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 3444
Merit: 4046
Crypto Swap Exchange
|
|
September 14, 2018, 05:50:15 AM |
|
If you made bets on new platform then you can easily see your last bets through API https://api.primedice.com/graphql and get seed from it. Just paste this code and run it: query userid{user(name: "YOUR_USERNAME_GOES_HERE"){betList{iid}}} Personally I have received such answer: { "data": { "user": { "betList": [ { "iid": "23782704876" } ] } } }
What does all this mean?
|
|
|
|
bur4n
Member
Offline
Activity: 167
Merit: 12
|
|
September 14, 2018, 07:03:11 AM |
|
If you made bets on new platform then you can easily see your last bets through API https://api.primedice.com/graphql and get seed from it. Just paste this code and run it: query userid{user(name: "YOUR_USERNAME_GOES_HERE"){betList{iid}}} Personally I have received such answer: { "data": { "user": { "betList": [ { "iid": "23782704876" } ] } } }
What does all this mean? Hahaha, nice!
|
|
|
|
Radiante
Member
Offline
Activity: 280
Merit: 15
|
|
September 14, 2018, 07:29:58 PM |
|
If you made bets on new platform then you can easily see your last bets through API https://api.primedice.com/graphql and get seed from it. Just paste this code and run it: query userid{user(name: "YOUR_USERNAME_GOES_HERE"){betList{iid}}} Personally I have received such answer: { "data": { "user": { "betList": [ { "iid": "23782704876" } ] } } }
What does all this mean? Hahaha, nice! I'm lost here too. I think Stunna may have an answer. (...)
I dont know if there is UI issue. But I try login my PD ID using another device and it shows the same ini previous seed (server seed and nonce didnt shown) Need that server seed and nonce to verify my bet
Then should be Code problem for Portable devices. Devs should take a look into it. In the meantime you will have to find some other solution, as for example: Use a friend's computer to check it out. If the problem persists even using a normal Computer, then you might have an issue with your ACCOUNT: In which Devs should still take a look from your statments with Support Team. Have you tried reseting seed? If I reseting seed again , I wont be able to verify my last bet Just for the record, when i've asked you to reset the seed, is so it might reset your account seed settings in a way that it will start showing further / future hashed seeds = returning it back to normal. Clear the cache of the mobile device, re-login, and the new seed you got from your computer must appear on the phone too.
|
|
|
|
Symphonized
Member
Offline
Activity: 2254
Merit: 57
Primedice.com & Stake.com
|
|
September 15, 2018, 02:53:02 PM |
|
If you made bets on new platform then you can easily see your last bets through API https://api.primedice.com/graphql and get seed from it. Just paste this code and run it: query userid{user(name: "YOUR_USERNAME_GOES_HERE"){betList{iid}}} Personally I have received such answer: { "data": { "user": { "betList": [ { "iid": "23782704876" } ] } } }
What does all this mean? It's API response on your user data, just doesn't provide much Information, check out more API queries and you might get more data.
|
|
|
|
|