[ANN]Spectrecoin[XSPEC] TOR+OBFS4, Ring Sig, Stealth!

[Bitman86]

Hello. I see future in your project and want to participate.  Maybe it is too late but do i have an opportunity to obtain free coins now?

Well I think there is a way, if at this time you buy, say for example, 100 XSPEC then, after the fork you will get: 100 [XSPEC] + 100 [WISP]
Also, I do not want to exaggerate, but the current XSPEC prices are almost free.

[mdkmarko]

What part of the two explanations, you do not understand?
Or simply, you want to do FUD? 
I do not see any reasonable question.
Leave the fear aside, you will have after the fork, the double of coins you have now.

I never went through the hardfork and do not understand how this happens, so I'm worried. How do I get the same number of different coins on two different wallets? What do I need to do for that?

You dont need to do anything. On the day of the fork the will do a snapshot of the blockchain of xspec, so if u was holding xspec before this date you will hold the same amount of "wisp" in there new blockchain.

[bitcoinpete]

What is gaslimit 70000Gwit and where it should be specified?

[Dec Ale]

Hello. I see future in your project and want to participate.  Maybe it is too late but do i have an opportunity to obtain free coins now?

Well I think there is a way, if at this time you buy, say for example, 100 XSPEC then, after the fork you will get: 100 [XSPEC] + 100 [WISP]
Also, I do not want to exaggerate, but the current XSPEC prices are almost free.

Hi, do you think wisp coin value will be similar to xspec value? and do you think the price of xspec will be influenced by this airdrop? if yes in a a goo or negative way? thanks

[Beachguy]

What is gaslimit 70000Gwit and where it should be specified?

I think you may have the wrong thread.   
please delete this post

[DWW]

What will be the timestamp of the WISP hard fork? And will it support replay protection?

[Bitman86]

This is a new link Dicord:

https://discord.gg/FY7VtWK

[Amnvex]

this is not FUD. FUD is a hard fork!

Mandica never wanted this, it is JBG's decision.
You can say this directly to JBG in Discord.
SpectreCoin, remains the same as before, this is Mandica's thread.
Jbg has to make a new thread for his new chain.

Mandica never wanted this? Then why the hell does Mandica force us to choose a donation of 5%? I have mine set below 5% (something in the middle, rather). XSPEC is currently not very valuable, but it has value. It's tough to devote yourself to full development, but that means you don't have enough people who are doing the developing. It's also hard to make this a full time job. It should really be a resource allocation and it should be based on contributions to developers as they use some of their free time outside of their regular jobs. Alternatively, look at it this way: what if MONERO forced their miners to contribute to a development fund @5%? They'd all run. Tell me that's not true?

In any case, this fork could have been avoided. Freedom and privacy is the goal of this fork, and while I do support a development fund (there's a reason I choose to donate a part of my staking reward to the developers), I don't agree with a forced fund. That does, indeed, force centralization. No, thanks. For that reason, glad the fork is coming. I will up my staking contribution by a percent or so when the fork happens.

[Bitman86]

@Amnvex, I think you're confusing people from outside, who can enter now.
Staking's change of interest is different from what you say.
Before, it was 5% voluntary.
Now it's 5% voluntary + 0.25% to guarantee paying developers.
You have practically the same as before, the difference is insignificant.
If you did not donate anything before,
then 0% voluntary. (development without guarantees)
Now 0.25% is fair: everyone pays, (development guaranteed).
With the new wallet you continue to earn 5% for doing Staking.

[Zer0Sum]

this is not FUD. FUD is a hard fork!

Mandica never wanted this, it is JBG's decision.
You can say this directly to JBG in Discord.
SpectreCoin, remains the same as before, this is Mandica's thread.
Jbg has to make a new thread for his new chain.

Mandica never wanted this? Then why the hell does Mandica force us to choose a donation of 5%? I have mine set below 5% (something in the middle, rather). XSPEC is currently not very valuable, but it has value. It's tough to devote yourself to full development, but that means you don't have enough people who are doing the developing. It's also hard to make this a full time job. It should really be a resource allocation and it should be based on contributions to developers as they use some of their free time outside of their regular jobs. Alternatively, look at it this way: what if MONERO forced their miners to contribute to a development fund @5%? They'd all run. Tell me that's not true?

In any case, this fork could have been avoided. Freedom and privacy is the goal of this fork, and while I do support a development fund (there's a reason I choose to donate a part of my staking reward to the developers), I don't agree with a forced fund. That does, indeed, force centralization. No, thanks. For that reason, glad the fork is coming. I will up my staking contribution by a percent or so when the fork happens.

Actually, look at the market = up 50% = everyone benefits

Right now regardless who does development XSPEC moves at glacial pace...
Now at least we will have a race between 2 snails... one snail funded by the 5% tax and one snail funded by donations.

A similar 2016 vintage anon microcap KRB taxes EVERY TX 0.1% for the Dev Fund...
And KRB has done 10x the development this baby has...
So you can't be a cheapskate when ICOs are still pulling down $30 million in a few days (look at HAV).

[Islapdonkey]

this is not FUD. FUD is a hard fork!

Mandica never wanted this, it is JBG's decision.
You can say this directly to JBG in Discord.
SpectreCoin, remains the same as before, this is Mandica's thread.
Jbg has to make a new thread for his new chain.

Mandica never wanted this? Then why the hell does Mandica force us to choose a donation of 5%? I have mine set below 5% (something in the middle, rather). XSPEC is currently not very valuable, but it has value. It's tough to devote yourself to full development, but that means you don't have enough people who are doing the developing. It's also hard to make this a full time job. It should really be a resource allocation and it should be based on contributions to developers as they use some of their free time outside of their regular jobs. Alternatively, look at it this way: what if MONERO forced their miners to contribute to a development fund @5%? They'd all run. Tell me that's not true?

In any case, this fork could have been avoided. Freedom and privacy is the goal of this fork, and while I do support a development fund (there's a reason I choose to donate a part of my staking reward to the developers), I don't agree with a forced fund. That does, indeed, force centralization. No, thanks. For that reason, glad the fork is coming. I will up my staking contribution by a percent or so when the fork happens.

Actually, look at the market = up 50% = everyone benefits

Right now regardless who does development XSPEC moves at glacial pace...
Now at least we will have a race between 2 snails... one snail funded by the 5% tax and one snail funded by donations.

A similar 2016 vintage anon microcap KRB taxes EVERY TX 0.1% for the Dev Fund...
And KRB has done 10x the development this baby has...
So you can't be a cheapskate when ICOs are still pulling down $30 million in a few days (look at HAV).

  I know you a legendary member and all but i call bullshit when i see one. The current up heave in price is temp, due to spec on the possibility of getting wisp for holding xspec. But soon as ppl realize that the only person with any technically ability associated with this coin has left to do his own thing, the the price will come tumbling down. I give it a day or max three days.

 Like i mentioned in my last post, it's sad that it took what mandica claim to be fud to react. She was just comfortable cruising along and reaping tremendous benefits from doing the least amount of work as possible. Then this guy (or how she loves to claim fudster )  came along and exposed the BS going on and all of a sudden she is well enough to do what she should have been doing all along.

 Then she comes back and announce a proposal that will continue lining her pocket cos at the end of the day it's all about making money for her.

[miramare]

Ok, finally, the dev team split!
For what?
Obviously, @mandica & @jbg both want to get the control of the coin and the fund.
Good luck to both.

[Bitman86]

Ok, finally, the dev team split!
For what?
Obviously, @mandica & @jbg both want to get the control of the coin and the fund.
Good luck to both.

Well after reading, I think that this way, you can see, from the outside, that is not the truth, the truth is that both promote, a decentralized project.
In XSPEC I know that @mandica was slow because she gave up / delivered the command, so that the community could organize itself; the test is @jbg,
in his team they already have, also who will represent the group. Therefore they only promote decentralized projects.
Here you have this invitation so that you can see for yourself:
https://discord.gg/FY7VtWK

[TaylorCZ]

Guys,
don't waste time with arguments, just do your work or somebody else will outrun you.
Now you have advantage that you work on best privacy oriented cryptocurrency ever (at least I don't know about any other with better specs), but in crypto world, everything is replacable, there are practically no resource limits that prevents anybody else to come with something equal or better and if they take place in this niche of the market, you will lose - even if you finish your product later.
If you are successful, price of XSPEC will rise which brings profit for everyone, including you. Much more than poor 5% staking income.
Please, don't waste your chance to rise and shine at crypto world.

[Amnvex]

@Amnvex, I think you're confusing people from outside, who can enter now.
Staking's change of interest is different from what you say.
Before, it was 5% voluntary.
Now it's 5% voluntary + 0.25% to guarantee paying developers.
You have practically the same as before, the difference is insignificant.
If you did not donate anything before,
then 0% voluntary. (development without guarantees)
Now 0.25% is fair: everyone pays, (development guaranteed).
With the new wallet you continue to earn 5% for doing Staking.

Is that so? That's not what I read. From what I understand, this is the result:

https://image.ibb.co/jnMkUn/Locked.png

I started out at 5%. I decided to change it to a lower number... now I won't be able to if the fork doesn't happen.

[Bitman86]

Guys,
don't waste time with arguments, just do your work or somebody else will outrun you.
Now you have advantage that you work on best privacy oriented cryptocurrency ever (at least I don't know about any other with better specs), but in crypto world, everything is replacable, there are practically no resource limits that prevents anybody else to come with something equal or better and if they take place in this niche of the market, you will lose - even if you finish your product later.
If you are successful, price of XSPEC will rise which brings profit for everyone, including you. Much more than poor 5% staking income.
Please, don't waste your chance to rise and shine at crypto world.

Thank you, yes, it is a great opportunity and we should not lose it talking, there is a lot to do. Good words, full of good wishes. Thank you.

[TaylorCZ]

Amnvex : It's 5% from the 5% of regular stake you are getting when you have staking enabled. So in result it is 0.25%

[Amnvex]

Amnvex : It's 5% from the 5% of regular stake you are getting when you have staking enabled. So in result it is 0.25%

That's still a lot. What about the 9 million being staked? That 5% ends up being 180k. You think that's a little? The fact that you can't decide how much you want to donate makes this coin go against what it originally stood for. What's the difference between that and premine?

[TaylorCZ]

Amnvex : It's 5% from the 5% of regular stake you are getting when you have staking enabled. So in result it is 0.25%

That's still a lot. What about the 9 million being staked? That 5% ends up being 180k. You think that's a little? The fact that you can't decide how much you want to donate makes this coin go against what it originally stood for. What's the difference between that and premine?

How did you end up with 180k (for what period)?

Not saying I'm eager fan of mandatory donations, but I understand they need fund just now and I hope (maybe foolishly) that after hard times pass it will be changed back.
I personally set staking donation to 50% because I'm not interested so much in 5% but in XSPEC success. If you like to have 5%, then invest in dividend stocks.
I agree that Mandica should have added promise of reverting it in the future and I was also expecting some really promising news not only this one as most important thing of entire update message. Nevertheless we all want Spectrecoint to succeed, aren't we?
I was not afraid about XSPEC before, despite all those troubles, but now I'm beginning to worry about it. Let's try to find compromises instead of fighting. It includes everybody, even Mandica and jbg.

[Acura3600]

If i have my XSpec in my Wallet, how can i receive the new coins in the new upcoming Wisp Wallet ?