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April 17, 2018, 06:03:21 PM
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I think it would have been best if the xspec community could have stayed as one, but there are legitimate arguments for both sides (xspec/wisp). It would seem the split was unavoidable, but what matters is how things go moving forward. My hope is that the xspec and wisp communities will coexist peacefully, and share whenever possible. There are already too many trolls stirring chaos in the larger cryptosphere. Let's remember that although people may disagree on technical or philosophical issues, we all seek a common goal of making cryptocurrency the revolution of our era.
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April 18, 2018, 01:11:40 PM
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gandalf and others from Wisp can only lie or run away from direct questions and not answer

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April 18, 2018, 01:28:37 PM
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Gandalf I can repeat the question:
Why when did Mandica offer assistance in creating wallet 1.4, then Jbg refused the help of another programmer? Although he delayed the release of this wallet for four months and this assistance was needed.

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April 18, 2018, 03:46:44 PM
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Gandalf I can repeat the question:
Why when did Mandica offer assistance in creating wallet 1.4, then Jbg refused the help of another programmer? Although he delayed the release of this wallet for four months and this assistance was needed.

I don't know whether you truly think your questions are clear and direct or whether you deliberately remain confusing.

In your questions above you make a large number of assumptions and include innuendos which are misleading. To give you an answer would require to entangle the entire web of the various statements in your sentence, which, at least for me, takes too long to set straight.

Instead, I suggest that since you have such an issue with how WISP is run or appear to have lost any confidence in the dev, simply don't get involved anymore and just focus on XSPEC.

All the arguments you make or ever will make have been made and addressed one way or the other. Time to stop this nonsensical fight and time to move on.
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April 18, 2018, 04:24:52 PM
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and I suggest that Gandalf answer my question.

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Why did Jbg refuse from help other devs that could speed up the release of wallet 1.4, since Jbg made a delay of 4 months?

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April 18, 2018, 05:12:10 PM
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Gandalf I can repeat the question:
Why when did Mandica offer assistance in creating wallet 1.4, then Jbg refused the help of another programmer? Although he delayed the release of this wallet for four months and this assistance was needed.

I don't know whether you truly think your questions are clear and direct or whether you deliberately remain confusing.

In your questions above you make a large number of assumptions and include innuendos which are misleading. To give you an answer would require to entangle the entire web of the various statements in your sentence, which, at least for me, takes too long to set straight.

Instead, I suggest that since you have such an issue with how WISP is run or appear to have lost any confidence in the dev, simply don't get involved anymore and just focus on XSPEC.

All the arguments you make or ever will make have been made and addressed one way or the other. Time to stop this nonsensical fight and time to move on.

Hi Gandalf86,
Is there a forum on Bitcointalk regarding WISP please? or any other info like Web site,  discord. I would like to follow this project
Thanks,
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April 18, 2018, 06:21:28 PM
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Will you have any other updates in near future?
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April 19, 2018, 07:03:10 AM
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gandalf and others from Wisp can only lie or run away from direct questions and not answer

Gandalf I can repeat the question:
Why when did Mandica offer assistance in creating wallet 1.4, then Jbg refused the help of another programmer? Although he delayed the release of this wallet for four months and this assistance was needed.

and I suggest that Gandalf answer my question.

Why did Jbg refuse from help other devs that could speed up the release of wallet 1.4, since Jbg made a delay of 4 months?

I am happy to answer your question. To my knowledge, jbg did not refuse any help. So asking for a "why" doesn't make sense. The code for 1.4 was not pushed to Github yet, because it was mixed with stealth staking additions locally and wasn't ready to be pushed at that time. Later it wasn't released because Mandica appeared on the scene and various disagreements happened.

Hope that helps. Smiley


Hi Gandalf86,
Is there a forum on Bitcointalk regarding WISP please? or any other info like Web site,  discord. I would like to follow this project
Thanks,

There will be a Bitcointalk ANN with a wallet download when the fork has been implemented and tested, which is also the time when we can announce the actual fork date. The Discord is linked here: https://github.com/wispproject/doc/wiki

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April 19, 2018, 07:57:07 PM
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Will you have any other updates in near future?

Yes, there are updates almost every day, but we still do not have well-oiled the means to announce them.
You can certainly be informed if you enter our Discord and read many new announcements.

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April 19, 2018, 11:58:48 PM
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gandalf and others from Wisp can only lie or run away from direct questions and not answer

Gandalf I can repeat the question:
Why when did Mandica offer assistance in creating wallet 1.4, then Jbg refused the help of another programmer? Although he delayed the release of this wallet for four months and this assistance was needed.

and I suggest that Gandalf answer my question.

Why did Jbg refuse from help other devs that could speed up the release of wallet 1.4, since Jbg made a delay of 4 months?

I am happy to answer your question. To my knowledge, jbg did not refuse any help. So asking for a "why" doesn't make sense. The code for 1.4 was not pushed to Github yet, because it was mixed with stealth staking additions locally and wasn't ready to be pushed at that time. Later it wasn't released because Mandica appeared on the scene and various disagreements happened.

Hope that helps. Smiley


Hi Gandalf86,
Is there a forum on Bitcointalk regarding WISP please? or any other info like Web site,  discord. I would like to follow this project
Thanks,

There will be a Bitcointalk ANN with a wallet download when the fork has been implemented and tested, which is also the time when we can announce the actual fork date. The Discord is linked here: https://github.com/wispproject/doc/wiki

If I understand correctly, the new wallet (WISP) is under construct by jbg. Is there any other dev except jbg for WISP project?
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April 20, 2018, 12:09:11 AM
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Ok Gandalf.
I've got one more question. Why do not you create a separate topic for the wisp project?
When will you create a separate BCT topic for wisp and will there inform people about the wisp project?
Talking about the wisp project and about the scammer Jbg here makes a bad reputation for the project spectrecoin.

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April 20, 2018, 06:44:47 AM
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If I understand correctly, the new wallet (WISP) is under construct by jbg. Is there any other dev except jbg for WISP project?

Yes there are some other people interested in coding, for example "shaybix". But there isn't much to do for them yet.


Ok Gandalf.
I've got one more question. Why do not you create a separate topic for the wisp project?
When will you create a separate BCT topic for wisp and will there inform people about the wisp project?
Talking about the wisp project and about the scammer Jbg here makes a bad reputation for the project spectrecoin.

As someone said before, because Wisp doesn't exist yet. There is no own wallet, no own blockchain yet. But we will discuss about making a PRE-ANN, thanks for the suggestion.

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April 20, 2018, 03:28:22 PM
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If I understand correctly, the new wallet (WISP) is under construct by jbg. Is there any other dev except jbg for WISP project?

Yes there are some other people interested in coding, for example "shaybix". But there isn't much to do for them yet

Gandalf, you could answer questions about Wisp in another BCT topic. Why do you use this topic Spectrecoin for information about another coin?

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April 20, 2018, 05:28:07 PM
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If I understand correctly, the new wallet (WISP) is under construct by jbg. Is there any other dev except jbg for WISP project?

Yes there are some other people interested in coding, for example "shaybix". But there isn't much to do for them yet

Gandalf, you could answer questions about Wisp in another BCT topic. Why do you use this topic Spectrecoin for information about another coin?

I am really just a spectator here, but:

Why are you getting upset at Gandalf for answering questions about Wisp here when you're the main person asking them here? You could PM him or simply ignore him if you don't want Wisp information to appear in this thread.
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April 20, 2018, 06:05:56 PM
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I am looking forward to both projects succeeding and plan to support both.

IMO, both projects have a lot to prove, but both seem motivated with enthusiastic teams.  I hope there is some rivalry when it comes to delivering.  It will make both teams work that much harder.  I am going to be picking up some cheap coins after both sides dump on each other after the fork, and look forward to both XSPEC and WISP moving on from this dramatic event.  Hopefully sanity and maturity will return at some point.
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April 20, 2018, 09:49:04 PM
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Stealth staking was supposed to come out next month, right?

How is that coming along?  Wink

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April 21, 2018, 03:37:42 AM
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Stealth staking was supposed to come out next month, right?

How is that coming along?  Wink

You must ask @jbg in the Wisp Discord.

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Doubts about the fork?

I am answering questions on XSPEC Discord:

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April 21, 2018, 11:37:17 AM
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WISP is just an exit scam for JBG and his croonies. As they are no longer funded by the free XSPEC staking donations, they and WISP will disappear along with other lame excuses for not delivering on the WISP project as well. For example, just look at the shite xspec website they gave us!

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