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Author Topic: [ANN] Bitcoin Gold : Make Bitcoin Decentralized Again  (Read 153364 times)
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October 27, 2017, 06:19:52 AM
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Don't import keys from an address that has btc in it.
Send the btc to a new address first.
Then import the old keys into a btg wallet.
This relies on replay protection of course; but if there is no replay protection, why are you trying to split coins?
There is a way to split coins from a fork that has no replay protection, but it's way too complicated for me.
So:  wait.

if i send bitcoin to another address and wait for 30 confirmations, i need to worry about no replay protection? i don't think so because those bitcoin are now associated with another privatekey right?

A transaction can be replayed years down the line 1000s of blocks in the past

I don't know how much you know about replay attacks but its mainly all about nothing if you are smart enough

A replay attack is when you send a transaction one one chain that yes once verified is safe but on the other chain a payment was not made but the signed transaction you send will also be valid on the other chain and can be replayed by someone sending your coins on the other chain.

They cannot modify the transaction though and can only send it the same address so if you are sending to yourself then a replayed transaction would just go to you too.

You are best off just sending all coins on both chains to different addresses that you own at the same time that way you can guarantee nothing can be replayed

for example

                             ----->----- NEW ADDRESS1
OLD ADDRESS -->--
                             ----->----- NEW ADDRESS2

Then OLD ADDRESS would be empty on both chains and all funds would be in different addresses so nothing to replay

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October 27, 2017, 06:24:07 AM
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There is no wallet yet ready .
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October 27, 2017, 06:30:44 AM
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Hi dev,
When is the official time I can start mining Bitcoin Gold? Its algorithm is Equihash, it is good news for GPU miners like me. Thanks
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October 27, 2017, 06:32:03 AM
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There is no wallet yet ready .

When are wallets to be expected? I mean binaries for Windows, Mac, Linux?

Probably early november there will be the full node wallet from the day the network goes live and other supporting wallets like coinomi should also be available from day 1 or possibly a few days later

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October 27, 2017, 08:37:31 AM
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Don't import keys from an address that has btc in it.
Send the btc to a new address first.
Then import the old keys into a btg wallet.
This relies on replay protection of course; but if there is no replay protection, why are you trying to split coins?
There is a way to split coins from a fork that has no replay protection, but it's way too complicated for me.
So:  wait.

if i send bitcoin to another address and wait for 30 confirmations, i need to worry about no replay protection? i don't think so because those bitcoin are now associated with another privatekey right?

A transaction can be replayed years down the line 1000s of blocks in the past

I don't know how much you know about replay attacks but its mainly all about nothing if you are smart enough

A replay attack is when you send a transaction one one chain that yes once verified is safe but on the other chain a payment was not made but the signed transaction you send will also be valid on the other chain and can be replayed by someone sending your coins on the other chain.

They cannot modify the transaction though and can only send it the same address so if you are sending to yourself then a replayed transaction would just go to you too.

You are best off just sending all coins on both chains to different addresses that you own at the same time that way you can guarantee nothing can be replayed

for example

                             ----->----- NEW ADDRESS1
OLD ADDRESS -->--
                             ----->----- NEW ADDRESS2

Then OLD ADDRESS would be empty on both chains and all funds would be in different addresses so nothing to replay



what you said only work if i don't move my coin before i dumptheprivate key to claim my coin on the other chain, if i move my coin first, it doesn't matter if there is replay protection or not, because my coin are not in that wallet(privatekey) anymore, this how i have understood it, where is this thing about 1000 block in the past? source please

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October 27, 2017, 09:32:02 AM
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so we can´t create a BTCG wallet at moment or?


thx
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October 27, 2017, 10:35:34 AM
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so we can´t create a BTCG wallet at moment or?


thx


at this moment there is only https://glatinum.info wallet but it's not trusted.
better to wait till 1st Nov to see more trusted wallets.
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October 27, 2017, 10:56:45 AM
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OK!

Thank you for the fast answer

LJ
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October 27, 2017, 12:31:25 PM
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The BTG price has been keeping dropping.
It is possible that it will be worth only 0.01btc when the wallet is ready.
The luckiest are those who kept btc at exhanges and sold it the earliest.
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October 27, 2017, 12:49:58 PM
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so we can´t create a BTCG wallet at moment or?


thx


at this moment there is only https://glatinum.info wallet but it's not trusted.
better to wait till 1st Nov to see more trusted wallets.

The only way we can tell if it is indeed safe is for some guy here posting that he claim Bitcoingold using Glatinum, until no one testify that it is a safe wallet I will not going to use it now and will wait for the right time to use it or find a better and a safer wallet.
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October 27, 2017, 01:00:54 PM
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so we can´t create a BTCG wallet at moment or?


thx


at this moment there is only https://glatinum.info wallet but it's not trusted.
better to wait till 1st Nov to see more trusted wallets.

The only way we can tell if it is indeed safe is for some guy here posting that he claim Bitcoingold using Glatinum, until no one testify that it is a safe wallet I will not going to use it now and will wait for the right time to use it or find a better and a safer wallet.

And if the one that posts that info is actually a scammer running a wallet with glatinum?
My god are you so easy to trick.

The BTG price has been keeping dropping.
It is possible that it will be worth only 0.01btc when the wallet is ready.
The luckiest are those who kept btc at exhanges and sold it the earliest.

You realize that the price went down this much with only the coins that were in the exchanges.
A lot of users have their btc stash safe so their bitcoin gold coins can't reach any exchange right now.
This is actually the reason for the price difference:
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-gold/#markets

Where there were more coins available the price went down further.
Since you can't actually transfer them withdraw there is also no arbitrage happening.
I imagine a far lower price than 0.01 that's still almost 60 dollars to much for it.

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October 27, 2017, 02:54:03 PM
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How ever people feel about another Bitcoin fork we do need another GPU coin for mining to spread hashrate around,as it stands earnings are dropping with so many miners competing with few successful projects,ether going POS soon and all that hardware will be looking for a new coin also, If mining is going to be as profitable as beginning of year new POW coins are needed.
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October 27, 2017, 05:06:13 PM
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How ever people feel about another Bitcoin fork we do need another GPU coin for mining to spread hashrate around,as it stands earnings are dropping with so many miners competing with few successful projects,ether going POS soon and all that hardware will be looking for a new coin also, If mining is going to be as profitable as beginning of year new POW coins are needed.

This, I love the fact BTG is being created, even if I don't believe in it like BTC Tongue
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October 27, 2017, 05:07:28 PM
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BTG is only an altcoin wit bitcoin into the name...
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October 27, 2017, 05:33:50 PM
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I will follow closely
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October 27, 2017, 06:16:03 PM
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Running all 3 bitcoin clients at once is fun, can't wait to run 4 Wink

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October 27, 2017, 06:41:49 PM
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Already sold my coins early and now it's will take very long time for another pump but not sure about when it will happen or not. I don't think this team is capable to bring some volume in coming days and other people will get chance to sell this at high price.
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October 27, 2017, 11:54:09 PM
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Already sold my coins early and now it's will take very long time for another pump but not sure about when it will happen or not. I don't think this team is capable to bring some volume in coming days and other people will get chance to sell this at high price.

Well I'm going to hold onto my Bitcoin Gold. Yes, yes, I know you all think this is an idiotic idea but when the miners start to come online in a couple of weeks or so the price will pick up.
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October 28, 2017, 01:10:24 AM
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Already sold my coins early and now it's will take very long time for another pump but not sure about when it will happen or not. I don't think this team is capable to bring some volume in coming days and other people will get chance to sell this at high price.

Well I'm going to hold onto my Bitcoin Gold. Yes, yes, I know you all think this is an idiotic idea but when the miners start to come online in a couple of weeks or so the price will pick up.

Once the network goes live then yes there should be a pickup but hopefully not too fast it's going to probably take a month to settle down

Never underestimate the GPU miners
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October 28, 2017, 05:01:15 AM
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so we can´t create a BTCG wallet at moment or?


thx


at this moment there is only https://glatinum.info wallet but it's not trusted.
better to wait till 1st Nov to see more trusted wallets.

Why the 1st of November? There's a plan for a wallet?
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