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November 05, 2017, 08:31:31 AM
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Hey guys,

i heard you got hit by a huge botnet, since Electroneum is so popular at the moment? I got some advice that could really help (I don't meen this in a bad way and I don't want to be disrespectfull!!!). My favourite coin (Sumokoin) suffered from botnets, too. They adapted their diff-algo to make it botnet-proof.

Here is the link to that pull on git:

https://github.com/sumoprojects/sumokoin/pull/10

If you want to just PM me and I'll give you contact info to Sumokoin dev. Perhaps they can help  Smiley

Anyway good look guys!

Coin's Difficulty is established now.
Difficulty   7,719,624,912
Hash Rate   128.7 MH/sec

I don't think any bot can make that fluctuate. Problem with sumokoin is, they have low hashrate at the start. Someone will purchase big hash from nicehash and get quick blocks then leave, leaving the regular miners with high diff until they made adjustment on the diff algo.

With electroneum, hashrate is so high now that buying hash at nicehash and miningrigrentals won't even make the hashrate bulge. If the hashrate stays the same they are already safe.

I just chcked and the Hashrate wa just about 60MH. Anyway, that really is a lot. But Botnet can get pretty huge  Wink

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November 05, 2017, 08:32:23 AM
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When mining for android be activated?
Always there is notification under maintenance...

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November 05, 2017, 08:32:56 AM
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Was ETN a successfull ICO? does it have more users than other ICOs?

I heard it has set records? Also it has a very good blockchain that is mineable? Also since it has its own blockchain it will get taken seriously by Poloniex and Bittrex will follow?

Can someone provide assurance that this coin is a massive success?
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November 05, 2017, 08:34:00 AM
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Mining is working perfect now. Cant wait for more ETN updates!

I have never mined before, neither have lots of other people.

Electroneum is exactly what the public needs. I like how honest and upfront the dev team is about everything too.

Its not shady like lots of ERC20 / Ethereum coins. Im not a fan of Ether now. I think Electroneum is what Amazon will go with.

Hoddle long BTC (the mother) and a few others!
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November 05, 2017, 08:34:05 AM
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yaya i know this is a nazi thread and will be deleted soon even stating the true facts...SO WHAT?

Cheers!



 Is it true you guys are going on Bitfinex soon?

Not sure until its posted. The fact that Electroneum has its own blockchain means that the holy grail Poloniex will accept it.

When Poloniex accepts one, everyother exchange knows its great quality. Bittrex is a lock for sure.

i don't think any well known exchange would accept ETN now,they obviously violated investers right with increasing 100% more premined coin than what they were promised,this alone is a very big reg flag without question,not to mentiond they not even explain why they did this.
this is not an fud but just a fact,if you guys who invest on this ico not even care about your right and don't want to raise your voices,you won't earn the respect and losing money on it is what you guys may deserve.
 Cheers!


for those who bought at $0.01 over 6 billion premined coins,i'm sorry to say that your coin's value has been dilute to $0.005 now because the premined coins is 12.6 billion !
Cheers!

they are double up their premined coins,but......DO YOU GUYS THAT INVESTING GET DOUBLE AS WELL?....that is a question lol
Cheers!


DAMN ETN TEAM, see it for yourself then tell me what can you say.  Cheesy

878ec74ff5f305ba30df3bae5f84bc59c8cb8cfbcc3df12f58dd7e646999892b






What does this mean ^^   Looks like 1.26 billion ETN on three stealth accounts ?? I hope I am reading that wrong

10.26 billion premined!!!!
this is far more than what they said is 6 billion!
cheers!

That was before when they expected around 10k users. Not over 300k. There is not enough coins for the mining app pool. Those coins will be necessary! So many noobs and FUD in here lol. Leaving until you all find something else to move on to. Wow.

Good luck with the project devs, I will be supporting and holding my coins for the future. Hope all the teething problems are sorted out soon.  


This is correct.

Its 12.6 billion coins

4.4 Billion to investors

That leaves 8.2 Billion for mobile miners, which is perfectly fine.

Wow, you guys just dont stop, lol. This was the plan all along. How did you expect the mobile miners to get coins??

show me the new announcement from dev-team then idoit!!!
this alone is enought for a very big red flag!!



I am the Community Manager for Electroneum. There is no announcement necessary. This was what they said would happen all along.


If you are confused, I will help you, but my guess is you are just trying to spread confusion, as you have been doing for months on this thread.

You can raise your Red Flag, but other than a few other trolls, I dont think anyone will fall for your FUD

people who are investing on this ico were invest under the terms of 6 billion coins will be premined,dev team don't have the right to change the original terms bc it will invade the right of the investers!i forseen this coin will be flag as a very very big red flag and will be deny to be listed on many well known exchange,the most worse case scenario would be  public law suit and these ico will treating as a scam project by the regulation agents!!

and you contraband as the ETN manager you will also a criminal due to the role as a colaborator with this scam...cheers!

btw..where is your lovely dev-team who is/are qualify to speak here and backed you up? NONE!!





@dev:
1. how many coins would your team going to premine despite of 6.3 billion ICO?
2. how many coins will left to miners(cellphone,cpu,gpu etc) to mine?
3. how long the mining could proceed(years)?


the questions above only valid to dev team to answer.

DO NOT QUOTE MY POST AND ANSWER FOR THESE QUESTIONS IF YOU ARE NOT DEV OF ELECTRONEUM.

Thanks!

Hi!

1. Actually the ICO is only a max of 5.98 billion as the 6 billion pre-mine for the ICO AND bounty campaign (20 million ETN).
2. There will be 15 BILLION coins left for miners [EDIT - OOOPS! I entered million instead of billion - just to keep you on your toes!]
3. It's a similar emission algorithm to bitcoin, in that the emission slows over time, with ours slowing with each block. It will be 10 years+ before needing a fork or algo change.

I'm sorry I've not been very active here - as a few others have posted I'm on Telegram nearly all the times, so it's a better place to get an answer.

Please read the Technical Whitepaper for more details on emission and mobile emission. You'll find it here:
http://electroneum.com/technical-white-paper.pdf


have a great day!
Richard
Electroneum Founder

Contraband already gave good computation of coins in circulation.
12B premine
+10M daily emission.

10M daily emision at 400 satoshi = 40BTC/day @ 7400usd/btc = US$296,000.00
$40M crowdfund/$296K =135 days of happy mining.  Grin

I hope the ICO funds are lock for at least  140 DAYS.
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November 05, 2017, 08:36:57 AM
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Hey guys,

i heard you got hit by a huge botnet, since Electroneum is so popular at the moment? I got some advice that could really help (I don't meen this in a bad way and I don't want to be disrespectfull!!!). My favourite coin (Sumokoin) suffered from botnets, too. They adapted their diff-algo to make it botnet-proof.

Here is the link to that pull on git:

https://github.com/sumoprojects/sumokoin/pull/10

If you want to just PM me and I'll give you contact info to Sumokoin dev. Perhaps they can help  Smiley

Anyway good look guys!

Coin's Difficulty is established now.
Difficulty   7,719,624,912
Hash Rate   128.7 MH/sec

I don't think any bot can make that fluctuate. Problem with sumokoin is, they have low hashrate at the start. Someone will purchase big hash from nicehash and get quick blocks then leave, leaving the regular miners with high diff until they made adjustment on the diff algo.

With electroneum, hashrate is so high now that buying hash at nicehash and miningrigrentals won't even make the hashrate bulge. If the hashrate stays the same they are already safe.

I just chcked and the Hashrate wa just about 60MH. Anyway, that really is a lot. But Botnet can get pretty huge  Wink

try print_block "whatever is the latest block" then compute using the "difficulty target" and you will get the actual hashrate.
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November 05, 2017, 08:39:56 AM
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yaya i know this is a nazi thread and will be deleted soon even stating the true facts...SO WHAT?

Cheers!



 Is it true you guys are going on Bitfinex soon?

Not sure until its posted. The fact that Electroneum has its own blockchain means that the holy grail Poloniex will accept it.

When Poloniex accepts one, everyother exchange knows its great quality. Bittrex is a lock for sure.

i don't think any well known exchange would accept ETN now,they obviously violated investers right with increasing 100% more premined coin than what they were promised,this alone is a very big reg flag without question,not to mentiond they not even explain why they did this.
this is not an fud but just a fact,if you guys who invest on this ico not even care about your right and don't want to raise your voices,you won't earn the respect and losing money on it is what you guys may deserve.
 Cheers!


for those who bought at $0.01 over 6 billion premined coins,i'm sorry to say that your coin's value has been dilute to $0.005 now because the premined coins is 12.6 billion !
Cheers!

they are double up their premined coins,but......DO YOU GUYS THAT INVESTING GET DOUBLE AS WELL?....that is a question lol
Cheers!


DAMN ETN TEAM, see it for yourself then tell me what can you say.  Cheesy

878ec74ff5f305ba30df3bae5f84bc59c8cb8cfbcc3df12f58dd7e646999892b






What does this mean ^^   Looks like 1.26 billion ETN on three stealth accounts ?? I hope I am reading that wrong

10.26 billion premined!!!!
this is far more than what they said is 6 billion!
cheers!

That was before when they expected around 10k users. Not over 300k. There is not enough coins for the mining app pool. Those coins will be necessary! So many noobs and FUD in here lol. Leaving until you all find something else to move on to. Wow.

Good luck with the project devs, I will be supporting and holding my coins for the future. Hope all the teething problems are sorted out soon.  


This is correct.

Its 12.6 billion coins

4.4 Billion to investors

That leaves 8.2 Billion for mobile miners, which is perfectly fine.

Wow, you guys just dont stop, lol. This was the plan all along. How did you expect the mobile miners to get coins??

show me the new announcement from dev-team then idoit!!!
this alone is enought for a very big red flag!!



I am the Community Manager for Electroneum. There is no announcement necessary. This was what they said would happen all along.


If you are confused, I will help you, but my guess is you are just trying to spread confusion, as you have been doing for months on this thread.

You can raise your Red Flag, but other than a few other trolls, I dont think anyone will fall for your FUD

people who are investing on this ico were invest under the terms of 6 billion coins will be premined,dev team don't have the right to change the original terms bc it will invade the right of the investers!i forseen this coin will be flag as a very very big red flag and will be deny to be listed on many well known exchange,the most worse case scenario would be  public law suit and these ico will treating as a scam project by the regulation agents!!

and you contraband as the ETN manager you will also a criminal due to the role as a colaborator with this scam...cheers!

btw..where is your lovely dev-team who is/are qualify to speak here and backed you up? NONE!!





@dev:
1. how many coins would your team going to premine despite of 6.3 billion ICO?
2. how many coins will left to miners(cellphone,cpu,gpu etc) to mine?
3. how long the mining could proceed(years)?


the questions above only valid to dev team to answer.

DO NOT QUOTE MY POST AND ANSWER FOR THESE QUESTIONS IF YOU ARE NOT DEV OF ELECTRONEUM.

Thanks!

Hi!

1. Actually the ICO is only a max of 5.98 billion as the 6 billion pre-mine for the ICO AND bounty campaign (20 million ETN).
2. There will be 15 BILLION coins left for miners [EDIT - OOOPS! I entered million instead of billion - just to keep you on your toes!]
3. It's a similar emission algorithm to bitcoin, in that the emission slows over time, with ours slowing with each block. It will be 10 years+ before needing a fork or algo change.

I'm sorry I've not been very active here - as a few others have posted I'm on Telegram nearly all the times, so it's a better place to get an answer.

Please read the Technical Whitepaper for more details on emission and mobile emission. You'll find it here:
http://electroneum.com/technical-white-paper.pdf


have a great day!
Richard
Electroneum Founder

Contraband already gave good computation of coins in circulation.
12B premine
+10M daily emission.

10M daily emision at 400 satoshi = 40BTC/day @ 7400usd/btc = US$296,000.00
$40M crowdfund/$296K =135 days of happy mining.  Grin

I hope the ICO funds are lock for at least  140 DAYS.


Contraband who and Contraband what?

Only Richard or dev-team/company representative is qualify to answer the question...so....fuck off please!!

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November 05, 2017, 08:41:53 AM
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yaya i know this is a nazi thread and will be deleted soon even stating the true facts...SO WHAT?

Cheers!



 Is it true you guys are going on Bitfinex soon?

Not sure until its posted. The fact that Electroneum has its own blockchain means that the holy grail Poloniex will accept it.

When Poloniex accepts one, everyother exchange knows its great quality. Bittrex is a lock for sure.

i don't think any well known exchange would accept ETN now,they obviously violated investers right with increasing 100% more premined coin than what they were promised,this alone is a very big reg flag without question,not to mentiond they not even explain why they did this.
this is not an fud but just a fact,if you guys who invest on this ico not even care about your right and don't want to raise your voices,you won't earn the respect and losing money on it is what you guys may deserve.
 Cheers!


for those who bought at $0.01 over 6 billion premined coins,i'm sorry to say that your coin's value has been dilute to $0.005 now because the premined coins is 12.6 billion !
Cheers!

they are double up their premined coins,but......DO YOU GUYS THAT INVESTING GET DOUBLE AS WELL?....that is a question lol
Cheers!


DAMN ETN TEAM, see it for yourself then tell me what can you say.  Cheesy

878ec74ff5f305ba30df3bae5f84bc59c8cb8cfbcc3df12f58dd7e646999892b






What does this mean ^^   Looks like 1.26 billion ETN on three stealth accounts ?? I hope I am reading that wrong

10.26 billion premined!!!!
this is far more than what they said is 6 billion!
cheers!

That was before when they expected around 10k users. Not over 300k. There is not enough coins for the mining app pool. Those coins will be necessary! So many noobs and FUD in here lol. Leaving until you all find something else to move on to. Wow.

Good luck with the project devs, I will be supporting and holding my coins for the future. Hope all the teething problems are sorted out soon.  


This is correct.

Its 12.6 billion coins

4.4 Billion to investors

That leaves 8.2 Billion for mobile miners, which is perfectly fine.

Wow, you guys just dont stop, lol. This was the plan all along. How did you expect the mobile miners to get coins??

show me the new announcement from dev-team then idoit!!!
this alone is enought for a very big red flag!!



I am the Community Manager for Electroneum. There is no announcement necessary. This was what they said would happen all along.


If you are confused, I will help you, but my guess is you are just trying to spread confusion, as you have been doing for months on this thread.

You can raise your Red Flag, but other than a few other trolls, I dont think anyone will fall for your FUD

people who are investing on this ico were invest under the terms of 6 billion coins will be premined,dev team don't have the right to change the original terms bc it will invade the right of the investers!i forseen this coin will be flag as a very very big red flag and will be deny to be listed on many well known exchange,the most worse case scenario would be  public law suit and these ico will treating as a scam project by the regulation agents!!

and you contraband as the ETN manager you will also a criminal due to the role as a colaborator with this scam...cheers!

btw..where is your lovely dev-team who is/are qualify to speak here and backed you up? NONE!!





@dev:
1. how many coins would your team going to premine despite of 6.3 billion ICO?
2. how many coins will left to miners(cellphone,cpu,gpu etc) to mine?
3. how long the mining could proceed(years)?


the questions above only valid to dev team to answer.

DO NOT QUOTE MY POST AND ANSWER FOR THESE QUESTIONS IF YOU ARE NOT DEV OF ELECTRONEUM.

Thanks!

Hi!

1. Actually the ICO is only a max of 5.98 billion as the 6 billion pre-mine for the ICO AND bounty campaign (20 million ETN).
2. There will be 15 BILLION coins left for miners [EDIT - OOOPS! I entered million instead of billion - just to keep you on your toes!]
3. It's a similar emission algorithm to bitcoin, in that the emission slows over time, with ours slowing with each block. It will be 10 years+ before needing a fork or algo change.

I'm sorry I've not been very active here - as a few others have posted I'm on Telegram nearly all the times, so it's a better place to get an answer.

Please read the Technical Whitepaper for more details on emission and mobile emission. You'll find it here:
http://electroneum.com/technical-white-paper.pdf


have a great day!
Richard
Electroneum Founder

Contraband already gave good computation of coins in circulation.
12B premine
+10M daily emission.

10M daily emision at 400 satoshi = 40BTC/day @ 7400usd/btc = US$296,000.00
$40M crowdfund/$296K =135 days of happy mining.  Grin

I hope the ICO funds are lock for at least  140 DAYS.


Contraband who and Contraband what?

Only Richard is qualify to answer the question...so....fuck off please!!



Fukc of fasolatido.ciao! lol
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November 05, 2017, 08:47:04 AM
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Hey guys,

i heard you got hit by a huge botnet, since Electroneum is so popular at the moment? I got some advice that could really help (I don't meen this in a bad way and I don't want to be disrespectfull!!!). My favourite coin (Sumokoin) suffered from botnets, too. They adapted their diff-algo to make it botnet-proof.

Here is the link to that pull on git:

https://github.com/sumoprojects/sumokoin/pull/10

If you want to just PM me and I'll give you contact info to Sumokoin dev. Perhaps they can help  Smiley

Anyway good look guys!

Coin's Difficulty is established now.
Difficulty   7,719,624,912
Hash Rate   128.7 MH/sec

I don't think any bot can make that fluctuate. Problem with sumokoin is, they have low hashrate at the start. Someone will purchase big hash from nicehash and get quick blocks then leave, leaving the regular miners with high diff until they made adjustment on the diff algo.

With electroneum, hashrate is so high now that buying hash at nicehash and miningrigrentals won't even make the hashrate bulge. If the hashrate stays the same they are already safe.

I just chcked and the Hashrate wa just about 60MH. Anyway, that really is a lot. But Botnet can get pretty huge  Wink

try print_block "whatever is the latest block" then compute using the "difficulty target" and you will get the actual hashrate.

Or type diff in the daemon Wink (~127MH ATM)
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November 05, 2017, 08:50:26 AM
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Looks like the moderated thread is going just great....haha this looks worse than the unmoderated thread, at least most people there were civil. But no the policeman had to try to change that, making the cut deeper for Electroneum...nice job Contraband.

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November 05, 2017, 08:51:18 AM
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yaya i know this is a nazi thread and will be deleted soon even stating the true facts...SO WHAT?

Cheers!



Dude, that was mentioned and explained in the last 4 days 10 times already - you are just making this topic unreadable.
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November 05, 2017, 09:01:40 AM
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So is Monday the day that things will be released? Coins and apps!

I'd say Monday is the day they all get in the office from the weekend and work out whats really needed. Then a release later.

If you're waiting on Monday you'll waste your time.

I'm Thinking late Tuesday, they really have dragged this on far too long and people are getting to lose interest.

Momentum on this has just stopped dead, and in marketing that is truly the biggest fuck up possible. Give access to the ETN, let the profit takers dump their coins to move on to the next project. Let the smart people holding keep holding or buy up.

I will be buying in the tens of thousands when it hits the 1c or lower mark.

This can't be good marketing practice??

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November 05, 2017, 09:12:53 AM
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Hey guys,

i heard you got hit by a huge botnet, since Electroneum is so popular at the moment? I got some advice that could really help (I don't meen this in a bad way and I don't want to be disrespectfull!!!). My favourite coin (Sumokoin) suffered from botnets, too. They adapted their diff-algo to make it botnet-proof.

Here is the link to that pull on git:

https://github.com/sumoprojects/sumokoin/pull/10

If you want to just PM me and I'll give you contact info to Sumokoin dev. Perhaps they can help  Smiley

Anyway good look guys!

Coin's Difficulty is established now.
Difficulty   7,719,624,912
Hash Rate   128.7 MH/sec

I don't think any bot can make that fluctuate. Problem with sumokoin is, they have low hashrate at the start. Someone will purchase big hash from nicehash and get quick blocks then leave, leaving the regular miners with high diff until they made adjustment on the diff algo.

With electroneum, hashrate is so high now that buying hash at nicehash and miningrigrentals won't even make the hashrate bulge. If the hashrate stays the same they are already safe.

I just chcked and the Hashrate wa just about 60MH. Anyway, that really is a lot. But Botnet can get pretty huge  Wink

try print_block "whatever is the latest block" then compute using the "difficulty target" and you will get the actual hashrate.

Or type diff in the daemon Wink (~127MH ATM)
HAHA. see easy!
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November 05, 2017, 09:14:10 AM
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I really like the new APP! Anyone else?

Hoddle long BTC (the mother) and a few others!
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November 05, 2017, 09:18:29 AM
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I really like the new APP! Anyone else?
Me too Cheesy

It is extremley nice, the mobile mining will be a dream come true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG this coin is the best thing since sliced bread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bittrex and POLO right around the corner!!!!!!!!!!
Its an easy 2x the initial rollout, which was 25 cents.

So 50 cents by years end will be very easy... very easy, with Bittrex and POLO, plus is amazon and Apple play store accept it.

Hoddle long BTC (the mother) and a few others!
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November 05, 2017, 10:05:44 AM
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Contraband is this an official statement???

Noel:
Richard Ells:
If you are a big investor, we will invite you to join us in order to accelerate the cooperation process of new project with Amazon. As our thanks. we will provide a vip feature for you that is online wallet will be active early and can only be accessed by investors who work with our developer team. and you can send coins directly from website to exchange market first.

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November 05, 2017, 10:12:49 AM
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Contraband is this an official statement???

Noel:
Richard Ells:
If you are a big investor, we will invite you to join us in order to accelerate the cooperation process of new project with Amazon. As our thanks. we will provide a vip feature for you that is online wallet will be active early and can only be accessed by investors who work with our developer team. and you can send coins directly from website to exchange market first.

Who is a big investor? how much coins do you have to have in the wallet to be cosidered "big"?

lets wait for contraband to answer!

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November 05, 2017, 10:18:15 AM
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Contraband is this an official statement???

Noel:
Richard Ells:
If you are a big investor, we will invite you to join us in order to accelerate the cooperation process of new project with Amazon. As our thanks. we will provide a vip feature for you that is online wallet will be active early and can only be accessed by investors who work with our developer team. and you can send coins directly from website to exchange market first.

Who is a big investor? how much coins do you have to have in the wallet to be cosidered "big"?

lets wait for contraband to answer!

Who cares about Contraband? Honestly they are insignificant, I dont care if they are a ETN promoter.

Lets talk about real stuff like the Development of our awesome community of ETN hoddlers?

BTW who is hoddling through btc2x?

Hoddle long BTC (the mother) and a few others!
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November 05, 2017, 10:23:51 AM
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So is Monday the day that things will be released? Coins and apps!

I'd say Monday is the day they all get in the office from the weekend and work out whats really needed. Then a release later.


I doubt that they ever left the office, or slept. Times like this are crucial.

I am against it....I know that there are problems that happens....But people are people....And they deserve to rest...I have seen and heard that they work 20 or more hours....They are not our slaves....
They can release the coin 1 o 2 days later if needed, but those guys are human beings, i don't like this kind of things..
Problems happens and will happen , this doesn't mean that we have to crash the devs to the screen....
 Angry

I know for my job we don't leave stuff broken and go home . You work until it's fixed and if you don't like it maybe you will learn to perform better testing before implementation. That is what I do and I don't have anywhere near this amount of money on the line from my customers.




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November 05, 2017, 10:25:29 AM
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So is Monday the day that things will be released? Coins and apps!

I'd say Monday is the day they all get in the office from the weekend and work out whats really needed. Then a release later.


I doubt that they ever left the office, or slept. Times like this are crucial.

I am against it....I know that there are problems that happens....But people are people....And they deserve to rest...I have seen and heard that they work 20 or more hours....They are not our slaves....
They can release the coin 1 o 2 days later if needed, but those guys are human beings, i don't like this kind of things..
Problems happens and will happen , this doesn't mean that we have to crash the devs to the screen....
 Angry

I know for my job we don't leave stuff broken and go home . You work until it's fixed and if you don't like it maybe you will learn to perform better testing before implementation. That is what I do and I don't have anywhere near this amount of money on the line from my customers.





You better not wait to buy ETN, this will pump up so high, tons of people missed this ICO due to China FUD. It is a underbought coin. The development thus far has exceeded expectations. It has its own blockchain and mobile app now. Bittrex and Poloniex will be launching this month. It's also got the largest community of supporters 400k plus.

Hoddle long BTC (the mother) and a few others!
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