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November 09, 2017, 01:13:26 PM |
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I am still waiting for this distribution to be done, but many problems in their system that may be very vulnerable to hacking, which may be quite detrimental to many parties, hopefully this can be overcome very well until the time distribution is done by the team ...
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November 09, 2017, 02:15:05 PM |
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So much negitive stuff on social media now, it's quite sad. I think in the long run, the pen testing and security will be great, but as an investor I am also a little cheesed off. Bottom line is nothing you can do, if you were planning on holding long term like I was, im not that bothered in all honestly. But I understand why profit seekers would be mad.
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armaggedon
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Made a mistake on selling account ddnt read rules
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November 09, 2017, 02:20:02 PM |
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Ok I can understand the security side with the APP and site, but there is actually no reason they can not send out the ICO coins , they have all the data, they are really testing everyones patients, and no I dont want to dump them , I would prefer them under my control , cause my security will kill anything they have or will set up!! So I think even if they have to manually send out to every person there ICO coins then they should, cause the coders are coding (apparently), but there is a lot of other people just sitting around flapping there gums and making coffee, might be a idea to teach them how to send out transfers,
Agreed. There's no excuse for them not releasing people's coins while they belatedly figure out how to build a one coin exchange, which is essentially what their mobile app is. "Send us your ETN address and <insert whatever credentials here> and we'll tx your ETN." Easy. All they need is a list of addresses and balances, and a simple script to feed them to a working daemon. They either have the means to link an investor to their purchase, or they don't , and if they don't then the investors are all screwed. Some people want the team to send the coins to their wallets manually? like seriously? are you sure you're not retarded or something? They will send to 100k+ wallets manually then your wallet will be at #99k, then you will cry here 'coz some people can dump their coin earlier than you! Transferring your own coin will give you equal chance as others (unless you f*cked up and overslept or something) to dump their coin earlier.
If you're afraid of the market, you're in the wrong game. I think the reason they will not give the coins out manually to us is what if you are the last person to manually get their coins? The people they did first might have sold and the price down to nothing. I think everyone involved needs to get their coins released at the one time?
It is impossible for everyone to get there coins at the same time. It's a blockchain, limited txes per block. Those who invested soonest should be first to recieve. what do you want? stolen coins or delayed launch? once they re open the site the hakcers will automatically bomb the website and boom all coins stolen why you still not understand that? you want them to manually send the coins? goodness... |
Please dont mind my reputation. i made a mistake of selling my account. i dont even know that selling of account is prohibited. its my fault cause i dont read the rules
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sud
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November 09, 2017, 02:27:37 PM |
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Ok I can understand the security side with the APP and site, but there is actually no reason they can not send out the ICO coins , they have all the data, they are really testing everyones patients, and no I dont want to dump them , I would prefer them under my control , cause my security will kill anything they have or will set up!! So I think even if they have to manually send out to every person there ICO coins then they should, cause the coders are coding (apparently), but there is a lot of other people just sitting around flapping there gums and making coffee, might be a idea to teach them how to send out transfers,
Agreed. There's no excuse for them not releasing people's coins while they belatedly figure out how to build a one coin exchange, which is essentially what their mobile app is. "Send us your ETN address and <insert whatever credentials here> and we'll tx your ETN." Easy. All they need is a list of addresses and balances, and a simple script to feed them to a working daemon. They either have the means to link an investor to their purchase, or they don't , and if they don't then the investors are all screwed. Some people want the team to send the coins to their wallets manually? like seriously? are you sure you're not retarded or something? They will send to 100k+ wallets manually then your wallet will be at #99k, then you will cry here 'coz some people can dump their coin earlier than you! Transferring your own coin will give you equal chance as others (unless you f*cked up and overslept or something) to dump their coin earlier.
If you're afraid of the market, you're in the wrong game. I think the reason they will not give the coins out manually to us is what if you are the last person to manually get their coins? The people they did first might have sold and the price down to nothing. I think everyone involved needs to get their coins released at the one time?
It is impossible for everyone to get there coins at the same time. It's a blockchain, limited txes per block. Those who invested soonest should be first to recieve. what do you want? stolen coins or delayed launch? once they re open the site the hakcers will automatically bomb the website and boom all coins stolen why you still not understand that? you want them to manually send the coins? goodness... You don't have to open any site or mobile wallet or anything. Coins goes to wallet address through blockchain, and nobody can steal anything that way. Seriously, that is how blockchain works. |
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drzed
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November 09, 2017, 02:32:26 PM |
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Ok I can understand the security side with the APP and site, but there is actually no reason they can not send out the ICO coins , they have all the data, they are really testing everyones patients, and no I dont want to dump them , I would prefer them under my control , cause my security will kill anything they have or will set up!! So I think even if they have to manually send out to every person there ICO coins then they should, cause the coders are coding (apparently), but there is a lot of other people just sitting around flapping there gums and making coffee, might be a idea to teach them how to send out transfers,
Agreed. There's no excuse for them not releasing people's coins while they belatedly figure out how to build a one coin exchange, which is essentially what their mobile app is. "Send us your ETN address and <insert whatever credentials here> and we'll tx your ETN." Easy. All they need is a list of addresses and balances, and a simple script to feed them to a working daemon. They either have the means to link an investor to their purchase, or they don't , and if they don't then the investors are all screwed. Some people want the team to send the coins to their wallets manually? like seriously? are you sure you're not retarded or something? They will send to 100k+ wallets manually then your wallet will be at #99k, then you will cry here 'coz some people can dump their coin earlier than you! Transferring your own coin will give you equal chance as others (unless you f*cked up and overslept or something) to dump their coin earlier.
If you're afraid of the market, you're in the wrong game. I think the reason they will not give the coins out manually to us is what if you are the last person to manually get their coins? The people they did first might have sold and the price down to nothing. I think everyone involved needs to get their coins released at the one time?
It is impossible for everyone to get there coins at the same time. It's a blockchain, limited txes per block. Those who invested soonest should be first to recieve. what do you want? stolen coins or delayed launch? once they re open the site the hakcers will automatically bomb the website and boom all coins stolen why you still not understand that? you want them to manually send the coins? goodness... Did anyone actually mention a manual process? I think what people are requesting is a simple wallet or exchange address linked to their email for those who want their ICO funds. It doesn’t have to be manual and there is a desktop cli wallet already available. It would mean another job for them to do while they already have their hands full so I'm not sure it's the right way to go. |
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tbearhere
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November 09, 2017, 02:56:43 PM |
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All I want to do is see my mined coins in my wallet .. I can't see them..... I'm going to hold for a long time.  |
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BranNutz
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November 09, 2017, 05:30:34 PM |
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Contraband,
Has any of the developers found 10 minutes to look into the pools' payments?
Look, we all know that the pools kept mining, everybody understands that.
So eventually there will be a question raised whether those money were taken by the developers or where the heck are they.
I would like this answered as well, as we all lost valuable early mining time which should have equaled some nice rewards. Even though they already screwed us on selling at good prices, I still want my coins that I mined to hodl for later. |
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November 09, 2017, 05:41:41 PM |
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This project look like the end game of the developers is to rip people off, not much has been said concerning the mining reward and alot of these coins are entering the market, is this not inside job to give some people this advantage
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boba02
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November 09, 2017, 05:56:35 PM |
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Well, if anybody participated in Everex ICO, situation was similar. We waited over a month for audits to end, before the tokens were released. Everybody was crying all over the place, but now EVX is on market and price looking good, people forgot about. Hope we will see this scenario here also.
Hey Sud, Do you happen to know what was the reason for Everex team for taking so long to release the tokens? Where there any details provided on the hack and the actions taken? Thank you. |
Beware of scam:
- Koinbi.com exchange. Fake exchange rates, withdrawals don't work, no way to contact support.
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pedjo99
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November 09, 2017, 07:19:47 PM |
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All the hype that was being out there a few day before 1. November and few days after will simply disappear in following weeks. They should have hired more people in order to answer all questions above, Contraband is answering here 1-2 post per day, which is insufficient for a project that has 300k+ people involved in it. I'm holding ETN for next month or two, but anyway this is not best way interact with your audience.
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sud
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November 09, 2017, 07:46:45 PM |
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Well, if anybody participated in Everex ICO, situation was similar. We waited over a month for audits to end, before the tokens were released. Everybody was crying all over the place, but now EVX is on market and price looking good, people forgot about. Hope we will see this scenario here also.
Hey Sud, Do you happen to know what was the reason for Everex team for taking so long to release the tokens? Where there any details provided on the hack and the actions taken? Thank you. Hey, Everex had also a security breach during ICO. Some hackers got all participants emails and token amounts, and then send phishing emails. So after the tokensale ended the team had 2 thorough audits just to make sure, and distributed the tokens a month after the ICO (plus one week for tokens to be transferable). So the situation was somewhat similar, and I'm not worry about Electroneum since I'm not looking for a quick flip. Eventually we all get our coins. |
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twd78
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November 09, 2017, 08:12:45 PM |
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Yes, have the same problem.
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boba02
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November 09, 2017, 09:01:03 PM |
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Hey,
Everex had also a security breach during ICO. Some hackers got all participants emails and token amounts, and then send phishing emails. So after the tokensale ended the team had 2 thorough audits just to make sure, and distributed the tokens a month after the ICO (plus one week for tokens to be transferable). So the situation was somewhat similar, and I'm not worry about Electroneum since I'm not looking for a quick flip. Eventually we all get our coins.
Hey Sud, Thanks for the details. The difference between Everex and ETN is that ETN team doesn't share any details on the "hack", so nobody has any idea of what's been stolen or what the risks are. Like probably most people here I have an IT background and I also discussed this issue with developers and security specialists. We couldn't come to a conclusion what could possibly go so wrong that tokens can't be released for more than a week and what prevents ETN team from making this launch more transparent. After all ETN team could send out emails to all the investors asking them to re-login to the system with temporary passwords and also add second level of authentication. And if ETN coins were stolen, they could have restarted blockchain on day 1, not a big deal. ETN team had a good promotion, so they are good on the marketing side. And their silence now may also be a part of some kind of marketing game. Or they simply don't give a damn about investors because they already got their money  I'm really curious to see how this project evolves, so far I have ambiguous feelings. On one hand, they collected 40 mil, so they obviously have smart people in the team. On the other hand, no development was done - blockchain is a lazy fork of Monero, they can' operate mining pools, they are holding 5-10 BTC worth of bitcoins that were mined on the official pools, they haven't provided any technical insight regarding any of the issues. |
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stfN2128
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November 09, 2017, 09:01:13 PM |
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Thanks for sharing, makes hope that our ico coins aren`t complete worthless in the future... |
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November 09, 2017, 09:02:59 PM |
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Wonder how many flippers are stewing they've put their 'make a quick profit funds' into this coin and now have to deal with forced hodl for a month having opportunities elsewhere come and go before their eyes.
Great lesson here, don't bank on getting rich on ICO hype for a quick buck. Seek repentance from baby jesus for being a dirty stinking low life maggot flipper.
Hodl 4 Lyfe.
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rifiuti
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November 09, 2017, 09:20:03 PM |
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TheCryproMaster
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November 09, 2017, 09:53:01 PM |
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That would be a sweet offload on cryptopia.
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chocopapaya
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November 09, 2017, 10:13:25 PM |
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Isn't it amazing?
Just two and a half weeks ago, hype and positivity were through the roof.
Now, it's like civil war, there are those screaming scam and those screaming, "ETN will NEVER let us down!"
Look, there is obviously something wrong, and it is obviously more than just a hack attempt.
First off, blockchain technology is immutable. Our coins are not on the website, they are on the blockchain.
No one can hack it unless they have your personal keys.
So in order for hackers to be able to steal our ETN there would have to be a problem with the online wallet where hackers can go in and extract our keys.
If there was a chance for this to happen this flat out means that the wallets are not ready.
...and the official mining pools aren't ready
...and the blockchain explorer isn't ready
So to me, it just looks like they didn't have a strong tech team and missed the nov. 1st deadline completely and are now finishing it up.
well, ok, so stuff that like happens and it doesn't matter as long as we eventually get our coins yeah?
The thing is, a huge component of ETNs success was hype, and now a lot of it is dead and gone.
So now me, a day one ICO investor, is rather upset. I think it is reasonable to be upset and unreasonable to blindly still think ETN to the MOOOOOOON!
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