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July 21, 2011, 05:12:46 AM
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Payouts are done with "generate" transactions.  If you get paid in any given block, you should see it in your wallet almost immediately, but it won't be spendable or be counted in your balance until it gets 120 confirmations.

That's what I thought would be the case but after 3 hours and having transactions from my other pool showed up, I started wondering. Anyway probing deeper and finding the transaction in block explorer made me figure I must had just experienced the same bitcoin client bug after missing transaction which some of the others had posted about. Shutting down and running bitcoin client with the -rescan option fixed that.

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July 21, 2011, 05:59:07 AM
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Whoever owns 1MY3ypFCDSbFYnM9jw4YvPnCfEDQz9sGGE is a n00b and broke sharesrv by sending "1MY3ypFCDSbFYnM9jw4YvPnCfEDQz9sGGE\n" as their username. I fixed and hot-patched it, so everything's fine now, but stats weren't updated while it was broken. Also, the username is still invalid-- so it is being treated as donated shares like any other invalid address. Since this one might be non-obvious, I thought I'd better post about it to try to wake whoever it is up... how do you get \n into a username anyway? -.-

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July 21, 2011, 07:49:18 PM
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Whoever owns 1MY3ypFCDSbFYnM9jw4YvPnCfEDQz9sGGE is a n00b and broke sharesrv by sending "1MY3ypFCDSbFYnM9jw4YvPnCfEDQz9sGGE\n" as their username. I fixed and hot-patched it, so everything's fine now, but stats weren't updated while it was broken. Also, the username is still invalid-- so it is being treated as donated shares like any other invalid address. Since this one might be non-obvious, I thought I'd better post about it to try to wake whoever it is up... how do you get \n into a username anyway? -.-

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July 22, 2011, 02:28:49 AM
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Due to popular demand, new data: http://eligius.st/~luke-jr/raw/5/payout_queue.txt

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July 22, 2011, 10:21:12 AM
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Due to popular demand, new data: http://eligius.st/~luke-jr/raw/5/payout_queue.txt

This isn't very useful to be honest, since there are no block boundaries. Unless I am missing something important?

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July 22, 2011, 11:34:57 AM
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Due to popular demand, new data: http://eligius.st/~luke-jr/raw/5/payout_queue.txt

This isn't very useful to be honest, since there are no block boundaries. Unless I am missing something important?

It seems to list users that are over the threshold sorted from oldest to most recent... I guess I agree that the list would need to be divided into block/50BTC segments according to up-to-date user balances to be useful.

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July 22, 2011, 01:37:31 PM
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Due to popular demand, new data: http://eligius.st/~luke-jr/raw/5/payout_queue.txt

This isn't very useful to be honest, since there are no block boundaries. Unless I am missing something important?
Lack of usefulness is why I didn't publish it to begin with. There are no block boundaries and it's reordering constantly.

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July 22, 2011, 02:01:05 PM
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Just to ask: is it normal to have 0.50181637 BTC of unpaid reward, when a block has been found 34 minutes ago? I'm fairly certain that it exceeded 0.33554432 BTC at the time when the block was found, and suspect something might be malfunctioning. I'm certain that payout has not occurred, since my local block chain has an equal number of blocks as a well known exchange service reports on their website.

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July 22, 2011, 02:31:29 PM
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Look at that text file luke just posted.  You should be on there in the queue.
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July 22, 2011, 03:06:57 PM
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I had created a similar tool for my own purposes and it my code correctly determines the order since it seems to match with the payout queue from the new raw .txt file.  It does draw lines every 50 BTC to give me a sense of how far out my payment is likely to be:

http://twistymaze.net/eligius/  http://eligius.st/~twmz/

But don't count on this estimate being accurate.  There are several fundamental flaws with my web page...

One problem is that it's looking at a snapshot of balances as of right now.  If you look at it now and a block is not found for 2 hours, the order will probably not be the same when the block is found because a) people are still mining and so the people in the first block will earn more BTC and push out the last few people from the first block into the second block and b) people who aren't above the threshold for payout may get over the threshold and suddenly qualify for payout and when they get added to the queue, they'll push everyone below them down the list furthur and possibly in a different block.

Another problem is that it is not accurately splitting large balances between blocks.  For example, if someone has an unpaid balance of 20 BTC and is near enough the top of the queue to get included at the end of the first block, they may only get paid say 15 BTC (because there isn't enough of the generated 50 BTC to pay them in full).  The web page will list their remaining 5 BTC at the top of the next block.  In reality, that's probably not what will happen because that remaining 5 BTC is probably not old enough to qualify to be at the top of the queue.  You can see this happening several times in the web page where the last address of a block is the same as the first address of the next block.  Those are all likely wrong (the address won't usually be the first address of the next block anymore once the first payment is made).

So, this is a pretty good estimate of who will get paid in the next block if it is found right after you look at it (but you can already see that at http://eligius.st/~luke-jr/raw/5/current_block.json).  On the other hand, my page is not a perfect estimate of exactly who will be paid 4 blocks from now--certainly not the amounts since by the time we find 4 blocks, everyone's balances will be higher.

Knowing those flaws, I still use it myself and find it useful to know if I going to be paid "soon" or "not soon".  If it shows I am not due to get paid for 5 blocks, I at least know that I am not getting paid in the next 1-2 blocks.  I find it valuable that it removes some of the unknown even though it isn't perfectly precise.  Your mileage may vary.


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July 22, 2011, 03:33:58 PM
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I had created a similar tool for my own purposes and it my code correctly determines the order since it seems to match with the payout queue from the new raw .txt file.  It does draw lines every 50 BTC to give me a sense of how far out my payment is likely to be:

http://twistymaze.net/eligius/
I would suggest you move this to http://eligius.st/ Wink

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July 22, 2011, 04:05:38 PM
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Useful enough for a small tip. Maybe you'll get more from others if you do as Luke suggested and also add your address to the page. Smiley

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July 22, 2011, 04:36:56 PM
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I had created a similar tool for my own purposes and it my code correctly determines the order since it seems to match with the payout queue from the new raw .txt file.  It does draw lines every 50 BTC to give me a sense of how far out my payment is likely to be:

http://twistymaze.net/eligius/
I would suggest you move this to http://eligius.st/ Wink

It's an ASP.NET MVC/C# app (ya ya, evil and stupid platform, etc).

I should be able to do it all of the logic client-side in javascript though (which would be a fun weekend project).  If I succeed, then it would be host-able on eligius.st.

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July 22, 2011, 05:09:19 PM
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I think it's an excellent feature, personally.
Especially with the new improved version that has block boundries and such.

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July 22, 2011, 07:31:31 PM
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Due to popular demand, new data: http://eligius.st/~luke-jr/raw/5/payout_queue.txt
There are a number of addresses in that list that are 33 characters long. Is that from miners sending invalid addresses as username?

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July 22, 2011, 08:43:16 PM
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Addresses can be shorter than 34 characters. I believe it's something with the way they are hashed and then encoded as base58 that causes some to become shorter.

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July 22, 2011, 08:52:17 PM
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Due to popular demand, new data: http://eligius.st/~luke-jr/raw/5/payout_queue.txt
There are a number of addresses in that list that are 33 characters long. Is that from miners sending invalid addresses as username?

According to wiki
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Address
between 25 to 34 characters are possible.


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July 22, 2011, 09:19:37 PM
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I've been getting about 5% stales recently is this normal?

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July 22, 2011, 10:40:00 PM
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I've been mining NMC for the past few days, and I had something around a 1.40 BTC balance with Eligius (1KUvwJTZnb6cRSB6VpiWF9jEoMbLv6MeBD). That balance seems to have disappeared and it has not been paid - the stats no longer show anything for the address.
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July 22, 2011, 11:53:44 PM
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I've been mining NMC for the past few days, and I had something around a 1.40 BTC balance with Eligius (1KUvwJTZnb6cRSB6VpiWF9jEoMbLv6MeBD). That balance seems to have disappeared and it has not been paid - the stats no longer show anything for the address.

Appears to have been paid earlier today:

http://blockexplorer.com/tx/3c6f884b61e444331d0f263d2b13be30e40149bb023429d689cdb4b2dc57e067#o21


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