[OLD] Eligius: ASIC, no registration, no fee CPPSRB BTC + 105% PPS NMC, 877 #

[Krakonos]

Sorry, I completely missed it. It's clear now, thanks!

[organofcorti]

If it is so, is there a variant that miners that ceased their activity (did not submitted share for given round) will be paid last?

RSMPPS. itzod.ru uses that payout method.

Bitpit also used that method. It meant that long term miners there ended up having shares that were never credited, but newer shares often were.

[Luke-Jr]

If it is so, is there a variant that miners that ceased their activity (did not submitted share for given round) will be paid last?

RSMPPS. itzod.ru uses that payout method.

Bitpit also used that method. It meant that long term miners there ended up having shares that were never credited, but newer shares often were.

No, Bitpit used ESMPPS.

[stevegee58]

Just curious.  Any reason why the hash rate has been steadily declining?

[Luke-Jr]

Just curious.  Any reason why the hash rate has been steadily declining?

Probably impatient miners.

[muyuu]

Staying loyal to this pool. Luke's stance is AFAIK flawless, if these BFL coffee warmers ever ship I'm pointing them here.

Have some patience.

[petabytecoin]

Is there any reason why the reject rate is so high today? It's reaching epic proportions, and I am on the verge of switching pools.

[Luke-Jr]

Is there any reason why the reject rate is so high today? It's reaching epic proportions, and I am on the verge of switching pools.

They're all duplicate rejects I think. Which means those shares were already counted.

Working on the issue, though.

[petabytecoin]

Yeah mostly duplicates, but also some stales, both at an unusually high rate (it appears to be going down though).

[Krakonos]

I have no problem with rejects and stuff on my crappy connection.

Btw. how much in debt is the buffer? I just summed the balances and credits from balances.json and got 2400 (400 without credit). Is it right? It seems to me that we had not THAT bad luck.

[stevegee58]

I've been mining with eligius for about a week now and I'm still baffled how the payout system works.  I read the description but I guess it's just not sinking in.

When I started mining I was being paid some small amount per block, around 0.002 BTC/block.  It's been slowly building up and is now 0.01378841 BTC/block.
I have a small mining rig running around 200 MH/s so I normally get about 0.12 BTC/day.

Where has all that mining effort been going?  I'm up very little for the week but would have about 0.84 BTC at a normal pool.  Am I missing something?

Sorry to sound cranky, I'm just trying to understand.

[Graet]

I've been mining with eligius for about a week now and I'm still baffled how the payout system works.  I read the description but I guess it's just not sinking in.

When I started mining I was being paid some small amount per block, around 0.002 BTC/block.  It's been slowly building up and is now 0.01378841 BTC/block.
I have a small mining rig running around 200 MH/s so I normally get about 0.12 BTC/day.

Where has all that mining effort been going?  I'm up very little for the week but would have about 0.84 BTC at a normal pool.  Am I missing something?

Sorry to sound cranky, I'm just trying to understand.

go back a page to
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=23768.msg974034#msg974034
your question was asked by someone else

[stevegee58]

I'm no expert, but I think it's the extra credit stuff. The pool recently has very bad luck and does not have coins to pay everyone in full. It will give you some and remember the extra credit for your address. When the luck will get better, you'll get more coins per share.

On the graphs, you can see the blue line what has been paid a the pink area what should have been paid.

The explanation of the reward system is here: http://eligius.st/wiki/index.php/Shared_Maximum_PPS

So how do I know what I actually mined then?  Is it the "Maximum Reward" line on the graph?

[John (John K.)]

I've got a good mind to restart my miners and mine for a couple of days, just to reach the ~0.67 level and clear my remaining balance now. Damn the temps here! 

Mining until you were owed ~.67 wouldn't get you paid much faster (if at all), you still have to wait for enough blocks to be found to catch up everyone with older balances than yours.

It seems his balance is pretty old (he's not mining for weeks), so it would be paid very soon.

Sorry for bringing up an old topic, but my balance is still there. Although it's a small sum, but it gives me that nagging feeling of having some spare change scattered around - and I must've checked it over a thousand times during this couple of months.  My balance has stopped increasing for almost a week now (4-5 days?) and the current block estimate shows:

Current block estimate : 0.00000000 BTC

I'm confused about the reward though, it seems that for some blocks my balance would increase by a single satoshi, and sometimes not. When on earth would I receive the balance? I understand that I'll need to wait approximately 10-20 blocks from your last count (55 blocks EC) though.

about 14 hours ago   1h   22m   46s   0   365,662   0.00013673 BTC   0.00000000 BTC   35 left   …6AF21C8D6B0C3B4AD5E1196A8
about 15 hours ago   17h   19m   19s   0   4,367,530   0.00001144 BTC   0.00000000 BTC   29 left   …2596C6678636176EA5093ABDB
about 1 day ago      17m   23s   0   78,829   0.00063428 BTC   0.00000001 BTC   Confirmed   …FCC2E4E48411EF2846BCB50B7
about 1 day ago      40m   34s   0   187,389   0.00026682 BTC   0.00000001 BTC   Confirmed   …50AA4571D90367F7D825DD5B7
about 1 day ago   7h   28m   50s   0   2,157,236   0.00002317 BTC   0.00000000 BTC   Confirmed   …C0212B15F5CDE9766CC05A925
about 1 day ago   2h   41m   18s   0   773,464   0.00006464 BTC   0.00000000 BTC   Confirmed   …BE338AD3EDA399CD12A2C9463
about 1 day ago   1h   35m   9s   0   484,251   0.00010325 BTC   0.00000000 BTC   Confirmed   …729F6C3345BB0ADC2236963C8
about 1 day ago      23m   19s   0   117,616   0.00042511 BTC   0.00000000 BTC   Confirmed   …DCEC513FFB76554BA6D280993
about 1 day ago      48m   45s   0   246,752   0.00020263 BTC   0.00000000 BTC   Confirmed   …68ECFA13A0FC456CD7D6C9A0A
about 1 day ago      45m   50s   0   224,034   0.00022318 BTC   0.00000000 BTC   Confirmed   …58CEB8DC70F6FAD171F92C92E

I'm in no hurry, just had to sate that itch. 

[Luke-Jr]

I've got a good mind to restart my miners and mine for a couple of days, just to reach the ~0.67 level and clear my remaining balance now. Damn the temps here! 

Mining until you were owed ~.67 wouldn't get you paid much faster (if at all), you still have to wait for enough blocks to be found to catch up everyone with older balances than yours.

It seems his balance is pretty old (he's not mining for weeks), so it would be paid very soon.

Sorry for bringing up an old topic, but my balance is still there. Although it's a small sum, but it gives me that nagging feeling of having some spare change scattered around - and I must've checked it over a thousand times during this couple of months.  My balance has stopped increasing for almost a week now (4-5 days?) and the current block estimate shows:

Current block estimate : 0.00000000 BTC

I'm confused about the reward though, it seems that for some blocks my balance would increase by a single satoshi, and sometimes not. When on earth would I receive the balance? I understand that I'll need to wait approximately 10-20 blocks from your last count (55 blocks EC) though.

about 14 hours ago   1h   22m   46s   0   365,662   0.00013673 BTC   0.00000000 BTC   35 left   …6AF21C8D6B0C3B4AD5E1196A8
about 15 hours ago   17h   19m   19s   0   4,367,530   0.00001144 BTC   0.00000000 BTC   29 left   …2596C6678636176EA5093ABDB
about 1 day ago      17m   23s   0   78,829   0.00063428 BTC   0.00000001 BTC   Confirmed   …FCC2E4E48411EF2846BCB50B7
about 1 day ago      40m   34s   0   187,389   0.00026682 BTC   0.00000001 BTC   Confirmed   …50AA4571D90367F7D825DD5B7
about 1 day ago   7h   28m   50s   0   2,157,236   0.00002317 BTC   0.00000000 BTC   Confirmed   …C0212B15F5CDE9766CC05A925
about 1 day ago   2h   41m   18s   0   773,464   0.00006464 BTC   0.00000000 BTC   Confirmed   …BE338AD3EDA399CD12A2C9463
about 1 day ago   1h   35m   9s   0   484,251   0.00010325 BTC   0.00000000 BTC   Confirmed   …729F6C3345BB0ADC2236963C8
about 1 day ago      23m   19s   0   117,616   0.00042511 BTC   0.00000000 BTC   Confirmed   …DCEC513FFB76554BA6D280993
about 1 day ago      48m   45s   0   246,752   0.00020263 BTC   0.00000000 BTC   Confirmed   …68ECFA13A0FC456CD7D6C9A0A
about 1 day ago      45m   50s   0   224,034   0.00022318 BTC   0.00000000 BTC   Confirmed   …58CEB8DC70F6FAD171F92C92E

I'm in no hurry, just had to sate that itch. 

Looks like those 1-satoshi rewards were from very short blocks.

[petabytecoin]

Anyone else having connection problems?

[stevegee58]

My miner is connected to mining.eligius.st but the web site appears to be down.

[muyuu]

My miner is connected to mining.eligius.st but the web site appears to be down.

Yep, same.

[stevegee58]

The web site seems to be mostly up now (stats are whacky) as well as the the mining address (mining.eligius.st:8337).

[muyuu]

The web site seems to be mostly up now (stats are whacky) as well as the the mining address (mining.eligius.st:8337).

Mining has been down for me for a few hours, site is up but has a warning message.