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September 17, 2017, 09:15:40 PM
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What happens to the CLAM exchange rate when dooglus one day decides
to close Just-Dice for good? Alternatively, he could choose to use
another altcoin instead of Clam, which would likely have a similar impact
on the CLAM/BTC exchange rate.

Have you addressed these issues somewhere already in this thread, dooglus?
What are your plans for the next few years regarding just-dice?

With the current investment amount of nearly a million CLAM (though dooglus
probably owns a non-negligible share of the bankroll) the relevance of these
questions has increased in my opinion.



CLAMS are basically Just Dice casino chips, but they let you invest instead of just play. He wants and will try to make CLAM valuable for two reasons: the comission is in that currency and he probably owns a lot of CLAM (at least I would if I was him).

CLAM is far more than just a JD casino chip IMO... literally everyone that used Bitcoin, Litecoin or Dogecoin on May 12, 2014 got an equal amount of CLAMS per address they controlled.

Just-Dice and Doge-Dice both closed due to it starting to be pretty outside and a little regulation spook... The regulation matter still looms a bit, but it doesn't seem like Canada is going to go after "good" crypto, but dooglus didn't want to responsiblity of holding Bitcoins.

Clamcoin was a perfect shoe in because it covered both his Bitcoin and Dogecoin community... it included LTC, so I guess that is a "plus" *gag*.  No one could make the arguement that anyone had to spend and type of value to get them (mining or what not) and there had been no USD trades... Just-Dice not wanting to have shit all to do with USD or fiat or electricity or what the fuck ever.  

Just-dice is basically the Neopets of Cryptocurrency in my opinion.  It's kinda cool.  (mind you it's a big fucking neopets lol)

Plus if someone robbed dooglus right now or busted JD... the entire community would flood out and leave them with "worthless coins".  

I expect as CLAM grows... more people would buy "worthless coins" and I don't know what dooglus would do then honestly.  At that point who the fuck cares cause we are going to have more crypto than you could shake a stick at.

This is just how I see it.

How CLAM were distributed is an entirely different topic. What I mean is that they aren't being used for anything else than betting/investing in Just Dice, so they are like casino coins/shares.

Clamcoins are very much so being used for far more than just Just-Dice....  Roll Eyes

Just-Dice has closed with Bitcoin... Bitcoin did just fine.

Doge-Dice has closed with Dogecoin... Dogecoin did just fine.

Just-Dice will close with Clamcoin... Clamcoin will most likely do just fine as well I'd say!

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September 19, 2017, 11:06:51 AM
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Just-Dice and Doge-Dice both closed due to it starting to be pretty outside and a little regulation spook... The regulation matter still looms a bit, but it doesn't seem like Canada is going to go after "good" crypto, but dooglus didn't want to responsiblity of holding Bitcoins.

Clamcoin was a perfect shoe in because it covered both his Bitcoin and Dogecoin community... it included LTC, so I guess that is a "plus" *gag*.  No one could make the arguement that anyone had to spend and type of value to get them (mining or what not) and there had been no USD trades... Just-Dice not wanting to have shit all to do with USD or fiat or electricity or what the fuck ever.  

Just-dice is basically the Neopets of Cryptocurrency in my opinion.  It's kinda cool.  (mind you it's a big fucking neopets lol)

Plus if someone robbed dooglus right now or busted JD... the entire community would flood out and leave them with "worthless coins". 

I expect as CLAM grows... more people would buy "worthless coins" and I don't know what dooglus would do then honestly.  At that point who the fuck cares cause we are going to have more crypto than you could shake a stick at.

This is just how I see it.

Thank you for the reply.

However, I fear that any CLAM holdings (measured in BTC value) would drop 90 % or more if dooglus
decides to close the site. This doesn´t even have to be for regulatory reasons, it could simply be that
he wants to move on to another project or hobby and calls it a day.

This would really crush the CLAM markets, because Just-Dice is arguably the largest use case - user Timetwister seems
to agree with me on this - of CLAM right now.

The same situation would happen if dooglus decided to accept altcoin X instead of CLAM.
After all there are many people that doubt the technical viability of PoS-based coins in the long-term and CLAM
is a PoS coin if I´m informed correctly.

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September 19, 2017, 04:55:27 PM
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Just-Dice and Doge-Dice both closed due to it starting to be pretty outside and a little regulation spook... The regulation matter still looms a bit, but it doesn't seem like Canada is going to go after "good" crypto, but dooglus didn't want to responsiblity of holding Bitcoins.

Clamcoin was a perfect shoe in because it covered both his Bitcoin and Dogecoin community... it included LTC, so I guess that is a "plus" *gag*.  No one could make the arguement that anyone had to spend and type of value to get them (mining or what not) and there had been no USD trades... Just-Dice not wanting to have shit all to do with USD or fiat or electricity or what the fuck ever.  

Just-dice is basically the Neopets of Cryptocurrency in my opinion.  It's kinda cool.  (mind you it's a big fucking neopets lol)

Plus if someone robbed dooglus right now or busted JD... the entire community would flood out and leave them with "worthless coins".  

I expect as CLAM grows... more people would buy "worthless coins" and I don't know what dooglus would do then honestly.  At that point who the fuck cares cause we are going to have more crypto than you could shake a stick at.

This is just how I see it.

Thank you for the reply.

However, I fear that any CLAM holdings (measured in BTC value) would drop 90 % or more if dooglus
decides to close the site. This doesn´t even have to be for regulatory reasons, it could simply be that
he wants to move on to another project or hobby and calls it a day.

This would really crush the CLAM markets, because Just-Dice is arguably the largest use case - user Timetwister seems
to agree with me on this - of CLAM right now.

The same situation would happen if dooglus decided to accept altcoin X instead of CLAM.
After all there are many people that doubt the technical viability of PoS-based coins in the long-term and CLAM
is a PoS coin if I´m informed correctly.

Yeah, but why would he do that? He's making money already this way, without having to worry about any government (he stopped accepting BTC for that reason), and he probably also has many CLAM. So what would be the point of closing or doing anything else that would plummet CLAM price and make other investors angry (and therefore not likely to invest in an hypothetical new casino dice)? I would also prefer that he still accepted BTC, so we wouldn't have to worry about this, but I understand why he stopped accepting them.
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September 19, 2017, 05:34:54 PM
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Yeah, but why would he do that? He's making money already this way, without having to worry about any government (he stopped accepting BTC for that reason), and he probably also has many CLAM. So what would be the point of closing or doing anything else that would plummet CLAM price and make other investors angry (and therefore not likely to invest in an hypothetical new casino dice)? I would also prefer that he still accepted BTC, so we wouldn't have to worry about this, but I understand why he stopped accepting them.

Many things could motivate him to close the site:
-a new project that isn´t gambling related and/or dependent on user investment
-real life issues (illness of him or one of his loved ones) that force him to reevaluate his plans
-site investment exceeds an US$ equivalent of an amount that dooglus is uncomfortable in holding on to for people (after all this was one
of the reasons why he abandoned BTC as the just-dice currency)

Obviously, I´m just speculating, but if one of these things were to happen, the current investors would be pretty
disappointed with nearly a million CLAM invested.

Besides from these potential issues regarding dooglus as a person there are other potential situations, which could
plummet the CLAM price (e.g. PoS coins prove to be unviable in the long-term).

Don´t get me wrong, I trust dooglus and his intentions, but with the current investment amount (nearly a million CLAM), my concerns
have a place and are probably shared by other people as well.


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Yeah, but why would he do that? He's making money already this way, without having to worry about any government (he stopped accepting BTC for that reason), and he probably also has many CLAM. So what would be the point of closing or doing anything else that would plummet CLAM price and make other investors angry (and therefore not likely to invest in an hypothetical new casino dice)? I would also prefer that he still accepted BTC, so we wouldn't have to worry about this, but I understand why he stopped accepting them.

Many things could motivate him to close the site:
-a new project that isn´t gambling related and/or dependent on user investment
-real life issues (illness of him or one of his loved ones) that force him to reevaluate his plans
-site investment exceeds an US$ equivalent of an amount that dooglus is uncomfortable in holding on to for people (after all this was one
of the reasons why he abandoned BTC as the just-dice currency)

Obviously, I´m just speculating, but if one of these things were to happen, the current investors would be pretty
disappointed with nearly a million CLAM invested.

Besides from these potential issues regarding dooglus as a person there are other potential situations, which could
plummet the CLAM price (e.g. PoS coins prove to be unviable in the long-term).

Don´t get me wrong, I trust dooglus and his intentions, but with the current investment amount (nearly a million CLAM), my concerns
have a place and are probably shared by other people as well.



In any of those 3 cases, he could just sell the casino to someone else. It's a quite profitable website right now (as he probably doesn't have to spend much to run it).

About the last scenario, he could also ban new investments being made or force investors to withdraw a percentage of their investment (both options would be quite bad for the coin value, something he doesn't want to happen as he probably has many of them). In case he did that, maybe another second (or nth) similar dice site with the same structure would be created.
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September 20, 2017, 09:47:28 AM
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Say I have 1000 CLAM on Just-Dice. I deposit 1000 more. I set it to "/offsite 25x", so now I have 2000 onsite and 48000 offsite. What would happen if after that I withdraw 1000 CLAM? Would the invested amount remain at 1000 onsite plus 48000 offsite?

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September 24, 2017, 08:07:18 PM
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I understand that the purpose of the offsite balance was not accumulating too many CLAMS insite. However, seeing that there's a circulating supply of 2 631 279 clams (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/clams/), and a theoretical bankroll of 13 852 378 (200 times the current max profit), 5.64 times bigger, it's evident the offsite function isn't being employed as intended. Investors are forced to use a multiplier as big as the rest of investors, so their position isn't deluted. But by doing that, she's lying, like the majority of other investors.

In practice, if someone comes and starts betting for the max profit, instead of just 0.5% of the bankroll being risked, it's something between 69261/889254 (7.79%, assuming nobody has CLAMS outside) and 69261/2631279 (2.63%, assuming all the supply is held by CLAM investors, and all the rest of CLAMS were really hold outside and ready to be invested if needed), way more than it should be. It's working well so far because very rarely people bet to get the max profit, but the risk is still considerable and it could be fixed by simply limiting the offsite bankroll to be set at a maximum of circulating supply/current bankroll (2.96 right now). If an investor wanted to be protected against that scenario, she would be forced to just use a 2x multiplier (the optimal with a 1% edge and 0.5% max profit), but by doing that she's getting lower returns than she should, as part of them are being obtained by investors using much bigger multiplier (average is 15.58 right now).
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September 25, 2017, 09:26:58 AM
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I understand that the purpose of the offsite balance was not accumulating too many CLAMS insite. However, seeing that there's a circulating supply of 2 631 279 clams (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/clams/), and a theoretical bankroll of 13 852 378 (200 times the current max profit), 5.64 times bigger, it's evident the offsite function isn't being employed as intended. Investors are forced to use a multiplier as big as the rest of investors, so their position isn't deluted. But by doing that, she's lying, like the majority of other investors.

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Dooglus should just remove the /offsite feature.
It has been used like you describe it (all people have to lie about their holdings in order to not
get diluted) since the introduction of this feature.

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September 26, 2017, 02:54:47 AM
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Investors are forced to use a multiplier as big as the rest of investors, so their position isn't deluted

I don't agree with that part. Nobody is forced to risk more than they want to.

I also don't see it as "lying" to use the "offsite" feature to invest more CLAMs than you actually hold. I do it myself. I have at least 25 times more wealth outside of CLAM than I have in CLAMs, so using "offsite max" isn't unreasonable for me to do. If I lose my entire deposit, I can buy more CLAMs and start over. It allows me to invest reasonably without having to convert all my money into CLAMs.

If others want to "abuse" the feature to take excessive risk, that's up to them. They might lose their investment and not be able to replace it, but they knew the risks when investing too much.

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September 26, 2017, 04:07:14 PM
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Investors are forced to use a multiplier as big as the rest of investors, so their position isn't deluted

I don't agree with that part. Nobody is forced to risk more than they want to.

I also don't see it as "lying" to use the "offsite" feature to invest more CLAMs than you actually hold. I do it myself. I have at least 25 times more wealth outside of CLAM than I have in CLAMs, so using "offsite max" isn't unreasonable for me to do. If I lose my entire deposit, I can buy more CLAMs and start over. It allows me to invest reasonably without having to convert all my money into CLAMs.

If others want to "abuse" the feature to take excessive risk, that's up to them. They might lose their investment and not be able to replace it, but they knew the risks when investing too much.

If someone comes and starts betting for max profit and winning it, investors wouldn't be able to buy the needed CLAMS to deposit them, even if they are online and ready to buy them in an exchange (totally unrealistic). Actually, there aren't even enough CLAMS being offered in exchanges to buy them in that scenario (357703 are available on Poloniex now, that's only about 40% of the insite bankroll, and that obviously includes those listed for way more than the current price, like a 190345 clams sell order for BTC0.008 each, about 4 times the current price). An scenario like a short squeeze would occur in that case. It's just not possible to buy back hundreds of thousands of CLAMS.

What you are allowing, which is basically leverage, wouldn't be that problematic if it wasn't because Just-Dice bankroll is about 1/3 of the total supply of this coin, and average leverage is 1:15. The scenario of someone betting for the max profit may be unlikely, but it just makes no sense to risk getting in that situation. In that scenario, only those that aren't lying with their insite+offsite bankroll (which is probably just a minority of people as you are forced to be at 1:25 not to be deluted) would be able to bear the downswing. Meanwhile the rest of investors would be losing about 7% of their CLAMS in each max profit lost bet, instead of the optimal 1% or a conservative 0.5%.

Maximum allowed leverage on CLAMS should be money supply/insite bankroll (and that's already risky as the rest of existing coins aren't ready to be bought on exchanges). Actually I'd just get rid of the offsite function and just make max profit 1% of the (real) bankroll, equal to our edge.
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If someone comes and starts betting for max profit and winning it, investors wouldn't be able to buy the needed CLAMS to deposit them, even if they are online and ready to buy them in an exchange (totally unrealistic). Actually, there aren't even enough CLAMS being offered in exchanges to buy them in that scenario (357703 are available on Poloniex now, that's only about 40% of the insite bankroll, and that obviously includes those listed for way more than the current price, like a 190345 clams sell order for BTC0.008 each, about 4 times the current price). An scenario like a short squeeze would occur in that case. It's just not possible to buy back hundreds of thousands of CLAMS.

I don't see the problem? If there are 357.703 coins available to be bought on polonies (there are probably other sites who sell the coins as well), and the max win is 70k-ish, everyone would be able to buy their CLAMS back.


What you are allowing, which is basically leverage, wouldn't be that problematic if it wasn't because Just-Dice bankroll is about 1/3 of the total supply of this coin, and average leverage is 1:15. The scenario of someone betting for the max profit may be unlikely, but it just makes no sense to risk getting in that situation. In that scenario, only those that aren't lying with their insite+offsite bankroll (which is probably just a minority of people as you are forced to be at 1:25 not to be deluted) would be able to bear the downswing. Meanwhile the rest of investors would be losing about 7% of their CLAMS in each max profit lost bet, instead of the optimal 1% or a conservative 0.5%.

I don't see the problem here either. As an investor, you have the choise to take a higher risk, you don't have to if you don't want to.
Personally, I like to have more profit as an investor, so I do take a higher leverage when I invest. If I lose bigger, I realize that it's part of the game, but in the long run, I'm making more money.

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I don't see the problem? If there are 357.703 coins available to be bought on polonies (there are probably other sites who sell the coins as well), and the max win is 70k-ish, everyone would be able to buy their CLAMS back.

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If someone comes and starts betting for max profit and winning it, investors wouldn't be able to buy the needed CLAMS to deposit them, even if they are online and ready to buy them in an exchange (totally unrealistic). Actually, there aren't even enough CLAMS being offered in exchanges to buy them in that scenario (357703 are available on Poloniex now, that's only about 40% of the insite bankroll, and that obviously includes those listed for way more than the current price, like a 190345 clams sell order for BTC0.008 each, about 4 times the current price). An scenario like a short squeeze would occur in that case. It's just not possible to buy back hundreds of thousands of CLAMS.

I don't see the problem? If there are 357.703 coins available to be bought on polonies (there are probably other sites who sell the coins as well), and the max win is 70k-ish, everyone would be able to buy their CLAMS back.


What you are allowing, which is basically leverage, wouldn't be that problematic if it wasn't because Just-Dice bankroll is about 1/3 of the total supply of this coin, and average leverage is 1:15. The scenario of someone betting for the max profit may be unlikely, but it just makes no sense to risk getting in that situation. In that scenario, only those that aren't lying with their insite+offsite bankroll (which is probably just a minority of people as you are forced to be at 1:25 not to be deluted) would be able to bear the downswing. Meanwhile the rest of investors would be losing about 7% of their CLAMS in each max profit lost bet, instead of the optimal 1% or a conservative 0.5%.

I don't see the problem here either. As an investor, you have the choise to take a higher risk, you don't have to if you don't want to.
Personally, I like to have more profit as an investor, so I do take a higher leverage when I invest. If I lose bigger, I realize that it's part of the game, but in the long run, I'm making more money.

70000 would.be losing just one bet. That's not a big deal. One bet of 7% of the bankroll, instead of 1% that it should be. But that player could keep betting and eating our bankroll at a rate of 7% per bet, instead of 1%. There simply aren't enough Clams in existence to keep buying them outside and depositing them on Just Dice. And that's assuming investors were online and had funds ready at the exchange to buy them, which isn't realistic at all.

Optimal leverage is something slightly higher than losing a maximum of 1% of your bankroll per bet (as 1% is our edge), because most bets target much smaller prizes. But 7% is just reckless. Or 12.5% if you are using 25x multiplier.

It simply makes no sense to allow that degree of leverage. Investors would get the same kind of returns as now if everyone was capped as about 3x, but we wouldn't risk being destroyed the day someone bets against max profit.
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clam price is rocking. good times
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Been losing bankroll profit every single day, even when site bankroll wins.

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Does your share of the staking profit depend on (your onsite investment)/(onsite total bankroll) or (your onsite+offsite investment)/(onsite+offsite total bankroll)?
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sick price crash, but clams always comes back
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October 14, 2017, 12:02:02 AM
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Does your share of the staking profit depend on (your onsite investment)/(onsite total bankroll) or (your onsite+offsite investment)/(onsite+offsite total bankroll)?

The former.

Offsite CLAMs don't stake, and so don't count in the staking reward calculation.

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October 14, 2017, 12:08:33 AM
 #4640

Been losing bankroll profit every single day, even when site bankroll wins.

Anybody know what's happening there?

I think the most likely explanation is that you're using the wrong day end time. The on-site stats count the daily profit from midnight UTC to midnight UTC. Try doing the same and then see how well your daily profits match the site's reported profits.

We wouldn't expect your profit to be a fixed percentage of the site's profit, since people are going in and of the bankroll pretty often, but it should be close enough.

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