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[medUSA]

Shutting down? Why?

Edit: I went back to page 144 and found out, the new Canadian Law
http://cointelegraph.com/news/111905/canada-signs-first-ever-official-law-regulating-bitcoin

I haven't been gambling much on JD (because I am not a very lucky person), but it is the only dice site I would keep a large balance (for me at least) there for a long period. Hope JD will be back soon. Best of luck.

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[boumalo]

just go to the first post go edit

and then go top and edit your subject!

Thanks.  I did that.

no problem

so there isnt any change that jD will come online back again ?!

There's a chance, but for now I don't want to be "dealing in Bitcoin".

Good Hope it is not a chance like that : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX5jNnDMfxA 

FEeling dicey today, making a small deposit here, hoping i can atleast double my coins, 

Proves people don't read titles

Would estimate that 99% of the investors still have access to their emergency addresses so when F2A blocked accounts will have withdrawn, BTC can be sent to the emergency addresses after a reasonable amount of time

[dooglus]

Would estimate that 99% of the investors still have access to their emergency addresses so when F2A blocked accounts will have withdrawn, BTC can be sent to the emergency addresses after a reasonable amount of time

I've had 3 people so far being unable to get into their accounts to withdraw funds.

I asked all 3 "if the emergency address 1(xxx) still OK?"

1 said "yes", 2 said "no", but 1 of those 2 later regained access to it.

So 1/3 or 2/3 depending on how you count it have access according to my tiny sample.

People are less careful with Bitcoin than you might imagine.

Many people lost (or omitted to make) their 2FA code backups, for example.

[boumalo]

Would estimate that 99% of the investors still have access to their emergency addresses so when F2A blocked accounts will have withdrawn, BTC can be sent to the emergency addresses after a reasonable amount of time

I've had 3 people so far being unable to get into their accounts to withdraw funds.

I asked all 3 "if the emergency address 1(xxx) still OK?"

1 said "yes", 2 said "no", but 1 of those 2 later regained access to it.

So 1/3 or 2/3 depending on how you count it have access according to my tiny sample.

People are less careful with Bitcoin than you might imagine.

Yes you are right; 99% is probably an exaggeration it may be only between 40-85% that will succeed to regain access to their address because we are talking about people that cannot access their JD accounts, don't contact you or don't check their JD accounts or the forum so they are selected to be less careful

[Light]

As an "escrow" holding coins he is transferring currency now and thus would need to get information on the people he is transferring too.  Remember having to send license ID, utility bills to Gox and Bitstamp last year to get your funds out.  Pretty much the same thing imo now.

I'm going to assume your right about this, seeing as I haven't had a good look at the new law myself yet.

@doog: Given this, I'm curious how are you going to manage the funds which are still owned by those people who have not yet claimed. I'm doubtful every single person will claim their coins before the bill comes into effect (unless it has already - can't find any sources to say when the law is in effect).

[PacoMartin]

@doog: Given this, I'm curious how are you going to manage the funds which are still owned by those people who have not yet claimed. I'm doubtful every single person will claim their coins before the bill comes into effect (unless it has already - can't find any sources to say when the law is in effect).

I don't see how he can answer that question on a forum without putting himself in jeapordy. How can he interpret a law that hasn't gone into effect?

The 16 ppl with accounts of 15 BTC or higher total 2095 BTC. I am sure he is doing everything in his power to get these accounts off the books.

Then there is a group of 90 accounts of 1-14 BTC which total 257 BTC.

The final 3782 accounts of less than 1 BTC total 114 BTC. Obviously some of these accounts are just dust. Clearly some people have lost track of dust.

[Joca97]

dooglus you should give open source of your website how you made it and all of that

if you dont want to open jD again !

[Candystripes]

dooglus you should give open source of your website how you made it and all of that

if you dont want to open jD again !

What if he just sold JD instead, and lived a life in a huge mansion for the rest of his life...

[Joca97]

dooglus you should give open source of your website how you made it and all of that

if you dont want to open jD again !

What if he just sold JD instead, and lived a life in a huge mansion for the rest of his life...

that would be even better i hoping for something like that!!!!

i just want to play on jD again!

[Light]

I don't see how he can answer that question on a forum without putting himself in jeapordy. How can he interpret a law that hasn't gone into effect?

How exactly does it put him in more jeopardy then previously. If he's retaining them, people need to know so try know who to go to if they have withdrawal problems. If he's passing them onto some other escrow the. It'll also be publicly known for the same reasons.

Last time I checked the wording for the law/statute is always in place and fixed (subject to amendments b parliament) so they don't exactly change before the bill is officially enacted. The law should be pretty clear on what it's stating and generally relatively easy to understand.

[PacoMartin]

How exactly does it put him in more jeopardy then previously. If he's retaining them, people need to know so try know who to go to if they have withdrawal problems. If he's passing them onto some other escrow the. It'll also be publicly known for the same reasons.

The principal part of the law is that it regulates Bitcoin as a Money Services Business. As such it would be subject to the requirement to report to the government cash transactions over CAD$10,000. I am sure that dooglus is hoping that the holders of roughly 16 accounts that are over that amount will withdraw their bitcoins before the law goes into effect.

If that happens, the idea of creating an escrow for thousands of accounts of very small value , many of which will never be settled, may be better deal with legally by considering them as personal loans.

[Swordsoffreedom]

How exactly does it put him in more jeopardy then previously. If he's retaining them, people need to know so try know who to go to if they have withdrawal problems. If he's passing them onto some other escrow the. It'll also be publicly known for the same reasons.

The principal part of the law is that it regulates Bitcoin as a Money Services Business. As such it would be subject to the requirement to report to the government cash transactions over CAD$10,000. I am sure that dooglus is hoping that the holders of roughly 16 accounts that are over that amount will withdraw their bitcoins before the law goes into effect.

If that happens, the idea of creating an escrow for thousands of accounts of very small value , many of which will never be settled, may be better deal with legally by considering them as personal loans.

Well since no business is currently in operation he is holding the coins as an escrow holder
Considering there are no interest for for holding these coins he would just be considered a retainer now of the balances.
Safe from the MSB status but I guess he could press the emergency withdraw button whenever he needs to.

It's still fairly early to do that though give them a few months to do it btct's shutdown and burnsides took around a year or so before it calmed down with a little bit remaining here and there.

[Pony789]

dooglus you should give open source of your website how you made it and all of that

if you dont want to open jD again !

What if he just sold JD instead, and lived a life in a huge mansion for the rest of his life...

that would be even better i hoping for something like that!!!!

i just want to play on jD again!

hmm people trusted JD a lot because it is owned and run by dooglus.
If JD is bought by some unknown persons, it won't be a good news to me...

[itod]

hmm people trusted JD a lot because it is owned and run by dooglus.
If JD is bought by some unknown persons, it won't be a good news to me...

Exactly. There are dozens of similar sites with almost identical functionality, but I doubt they can get investors to deposit BTC with them. Whatever happens to JD - Dooglus has to run it, or it would not gain nothing close to confidence people had in him.

[zolace]

I think what many of you people are saying is like no one can be trusted, Dooglus is good but hes not the only good person out there.  Others deserve a chance. 

[Joca97]

I think what many of you people are saying is like no one can be trusted, Dooglus is good but hes not the only good person out there.  Others deserve a chance. 

yeah i think you are right a lot of people deserve a chance

im hoping now prcdice will be good because they are new and i see future in them!

[minerpumpkin]

I think what many of you people are saying is like no one can be trusted, Dooglus is good but hes not the only good person out there.  Others deserve a chance.  

yeah i think you are right a lot of people deserve a chance

im hoping now prcdice will be good because they are new and i see future in them!

We'll see how many investors they can attract. The investments profits are down about 40% over the last week. I know, variance can be a bitch, but this won't be exactly an advertisement to invest in that site as of now. I wonder whether somethings broken on their site. Although I guess they've been around for a while so I guess it's variance.

[Lohoris]

I think what many of you people are saying is like no one can be trusted, Dooglus is good but hes not the only good person out there.  Others deserve a chance. 

In scamland, no.
You do not get to be trusted by default neither in real live, let alone in an area known to be full of thieves!

[freedomno1]

I think what many of you people are saying is like no one can be trusted, Dooglus is good but hes not the only good person out there.  Others deserve a chance. 

In scamland, no.
You do not get to be trusted by default neither in real live, let alone in an area known to be full of thieves!

Yep Doog or Bust even good old John went away for a long time not sure who else could replace him would stay Stunna but their not interested in this so it's a tricky question.

[Maidak]

Man such a great site I lost a lot of BTC there but had a few decent payouts sad to see it shutdown best of luck to ya now go buy an island!