Just-Dice.com : now with added CLAMs : Play or Invest

[elm]

If you have lots of money, and want a gambling site built and want to put no trust in someone -- I can build it for you, seriously. I could use the cash, I just quit my job last Friday to focus full time on moneypot.com and had a few people wanted to leave also and work with me -- but I'm not making close to enough to pay anyone else's salary.  To make it work, I'd need ~12k/USD/month with a promise of a minimum of 6 months -- which would buy you two full time devs (with bitcoin experience) and me managing it.

The way I'd do is is make the core gambling part publicly available (where public could be anywhere from open source, to downloadable to something you send to a 3rd party auditor) -- and I'd teach you how to manage the production environment, where you and you alone would have access and set the appropriate variables.

did I understand You right? You need 6 month for coding and 12K USD a month? to be frank that sounds a lot. I have also some different game ideas in mind.

cheers

12k$/month is for 2devs + him

60k$ total for a great job is not that pricey but you can get a good job for less!

a good job for less? thats what I thought but when talking to some devs I got a real bad feeling and I got the feeling that they only were interested in some new ideas.
I cant code and I have only good ideas but I really would like to get those ideas online.IMO most script devs have no clue about online casino games. therefore most devs are offering JD clones.

any help is very much appreciated to  find a dev for new game ideas (not JD clones)

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[boumalo]

If you have lots of money, and want a gambling site built and want to put no trust in someone -- I can build it for you, seriously. I could use the cash, I just quit my job last Friday to focus full time on moneypot.com and had a few people wanted to leave also and work with me -- but I'm not making close to enough to pay anyone else's salary.  To make it work, I'd need ~12k/USD/month with a promise of a minimum of 6 months -- which would buy you two full time devs (with bitcoin experience) and me managing it.

The way I'd do is is make the core gambling part publicly available (where public could be anywhere from open source, to downloadable to something you send to a 3rd party auditor) -- and I'd teach you how to manage the production environment, where you and you alone would have access and set the appropriate variables.

did I understand You right? You need 6 month for coding and 12K USD a month? to be frank that sounds a lot. I have also some different game ideas in mind.

cheers

12k$/month is for 2devs + him

60k$ total for a great job is not that pricey but you can get a good job for less!

a good job for less? thats what I thought but when talking to some devs I got a real bad feeling and I got the feeling that they only were interested in some new ideas.
I cant code and I have only good ideas but I really would like to get those ideas online.IMO most script devs have no clue about online casino games. therefore most devs are offering JD clones.

any help is very much appreciated to  find a dev for new game ideas (not JD clones)

Talk with them a lot, meet them, get as much infos as possible and understand what they are doing to avoid bad surprises

[elm]

If you have lots of money, and want a gambling site built and want to put no trust in someone -- I can build it for you, seriously. I could use the cash, I just quit my job last Friday to focus full time on moneypot.com and had a few people wanted to leave also and work with me -- but I'm not making close to enough to pay anyone else's salary.  To make it work, I'd need ~12k/USD/month with a promise of a minimum of 6 months -- which would buy you two full time devs (with bitcoin experience) and me managing it.

The way I'd do is is make the core gambling part publicly available (where public could be anywhere from open source, to downloadable to something you send to a 3rd party auditor) -- and I'd teach you how to manage the production environment, where you and you alone would have access and set the appropriate variables.

did I understand You right? You need 6 month for coding and 12K USD a month? to be frank that sounds a lot. I have also some different game ideas in mind.

cheers

12k$/month is for 2devs + him

60k$ total for a great job is not that pricey but you can get a good job for less!

a good job for less? thats what I thought but when talking to some devs I got a real bad feeling and I got the feeling that they only were interested in some new ideas.
I cant code and I have only good ideas but I really would like to get those ideas online.IMO most script devs have no clue about online casino games. therefore most devs are offering JD clones.

any help is very much appreciated to  find a dev for new game ideas (not JD clones)

Talk with them a lot, meet them, get as much infos as possible and understand what they are doing to avoid bad surprises

thanks for the advice. that is exactly what I tried but without success yet.

[infested999]

If you have lots of money, and want a gambling site built and want to put no trust in someone -- I can build it for you, seriously. I could use the cash, I just quit my job last Friday to focus full time on moneypot.com and had a few people wanted to leave also and work with me -- but I'm not making close to enough to pay anyone else's salary.  To make it work, I'd need ~12k/USD/month with a promise of a minimum of 6 months -- which would buy you two full time devs (with bitcoin experience) and me managing it.

The way I'd do is is make the core gambling part publicly available (where public could be anywhere from open source, to downloadable to something you send to a 3rd party auditor) -- and I'd teach you how to manage the production environment, where you and you alone would have access and set the appropriate variables.

did I understand You right? You need 6 month for coding and 12K USD a month? to be frank that sounds a lot. I have also some different game ideas in mind.

cheers

I believe he just needs employment for 6 months minimum. The site can be done after the first month, but he still gets paid for other work for the next 5 months for example.

[Dabs]

dooglus, may I ask some hardware / software questions regarding how JD was set up?

1. What kind of server did you start it with? Did you upgrade? (You mentioned Amazon Cloud something before, micro instance or maybe even bigger)
2. Ram? Hard Drive space? Operating System? Processors? GPUs? (in theory, GPUs could have hardware accelerated the HMAC-SHA functions, maybe.)
3. What software packages? I remember something like Node.js
4. Was bitcoind (the hot wallet) on a different server, or on the same server as the JD site?
5. Did it need an external entropy source? From what I understand, you only need to generate the server seeds once per player, and only when they click Randomize. The rest are all deterministic.
6. How many real players were there? How high was the peak number of active players at one time?

See, 5 and 6 are related because you would be serving each player over SSL, and might deplete the entropy pool, or /dev/random related or something.

7. What would you recommend for me to start my own little dice site (or other game site), in terms of hosting, servers.

Thanks.

I'd like to add one more question, where did you host it (or what is a good place to host it?) I think someone mentioned Amazon AWS in Ireland, but I'm not sure. (Does the country matter? I could probably host mine in Manila, there is AWS here, and I might have the chance to visit the physical site, if they allow it.)

[espringe]

Hi Dabs, I didn't see your message earlier

I don't have lots of money. Would you consider some sort of partnership or commission or percentage of net profits for a certain amount of time (which can be 6 months, or 6 years) ?

It would not really be possible. I made the offer as it would be something that would give me much needed financial stability. I want more of that, not less. Also developers also (especially here) want guaranteed cash every month, which is largely why they work for someone offering it and not run on their own.

I believe he just needs employment for 6 months minimum. The site can be done after the first month, but he still gets paid for other work for the next 5 months for example.

Yeah, that's correct. The plan would involve poaching employees from where I used to work (who have actually asked me if I can). They're all rather dependent on their salary, so unless there's 6 months of runway it's something I can't do in good faith

[ChekaZ]

Just coming in here to say that you should have pm'ed your signature campaign users. Scamming 1 Month of Sig isnt fun.

[alabamafan1]

Just coming in here to say that you should have pm'ed your signature campaign users. Scamming 1 Month of Sig isnt fun.

If you're talking about DB, it was never his signature campaign so don't accuse Douglas of anything.

[dooglus]

Just coming in here to say that you should have pm'ed your signature campaign users. Scamming 1 Month of Sig isnt fun.

Can you tell me more details? I've never run a signature campaign so I'm a little confused.

I have acted as escrow for several different campaigns so perhaps you're talking about one of those?

If you didn't get paid for one of the campaigns I'm escrowing for you should let me know before I return the escrowed coins.

[dooglus]

If you're talking about DB, it was never his signature campaign so don't accuse Douglas of anything.

I don't see him on the list of accounts in the DB campaign, so I don't know what he's referring to.

Edit: maybe this?

If there is a place for a Hero Member, PM me thanks.

[ensurance982]

Canada hesitant to regulate Bitcoin, will be looked at again in 5 years... So, JD starting again?  http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ipc1a/parliament_of_canada_revisit_in_5_years_to/

[TwinWinNerD]

The decentralised version of JD, Chancecoin , has got major attention today and gained >200%!

check out: chancecoin.com

[boumalo]

The decentralised version of JD, Chancecoin , has got major attention today and gained >200%!

check out: chancecoin.com

This topic is becoming a discussion about Bitcoin casino for the nostalgics of JD

Chancecoin got my interest a few months ago but didn't bought any; how far is it from the ATH?

[galbros]

From another thread:

ok thx, is there any chance you're going to return JD?

Yes, about 40% chance.

I figure this is a good increase above the 0 chance it appeared to be.  If the Canadian rules really are going to be delayed, and dooglus has forgotten what a pain in the ass it is to deal with some members of the bitcoin community maybe we really will see it return.

[Dabs]

From another thread:

ok thx, is there any chance you're going to return JD?

Yes, about 40% chance.

I figure this is a good increase above the 0 chance it appeared to be.  If the Canadian rules really are going to be delayed, and dooglus has forgotten what a pain in the ass it is to deal with some members of the bitcoin community maybe we really will see it return.

Ok, what's the server seed so I can compute if you will open it or not? I'm assuming the nonce will be 1 and the client seed also known.

Here's an idea. I make a server seed, show the SHA256. You reply with a client seed and whether you roll low, or roll high. (Or otherwise the 40% window).

Then ...

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

dooglus, if you bring back JD can you bring back the database as well? I'd like my id

[marcotheminer]

dooglus, if you bring back JD can you bring back the database as well? I'd like my id

If I'm correct, dooglus once said that he would bring the site back as is (UID would be the same I believe)

[Jamie_Boulder]

What's this would business? has Dooglus confirmed anything about reviving JD? :O

[Timetwister]

From another thread:

ok thx, is there any chance you're going to return JD?

Yes, about 40% chance.

I figure this is a good increase above the 0 chance it appeared to be.  If the Canadian rules really are going to be delayed, and dooglus has forgotten what a pain in the ass it is to deal with some members of the bitcoin community maybe we really will see it return.

That would be really nice. Nowadays the only business that seems trustful enough to invest bitcoins is Bitfinex, and there the expected return from lending is quite low.

[yhomega]

Bring back JD please