⚡[ANN] TOKENPAY ⚡ SCAMMED 1 MILLION $ FROM BOUNTY AND REFERRAL PROGRAM ⚡

[Sanitough]

What makes Token pay different from the rest? What special feature does it have and services as a platform?

Well according to the OP, the TokenPay team are thieves because they were supposed to pay 135,000 TPay tokens for the bounty but did not pay up after the successful ICO.

Does that count to answer your question?

That's the truth, I think it will be acceptable if the project failed but Tokenpay has value therefore they should pay their obligation.
If they have a problem with the bounty manager then they should run their own investigation to determine the facts, in the end, they still have to pay.

[JollyGood]

That's the truth, I think it will be acceptable if the project failed but Tokenpay has value therefore they should pay their obligation.
If they have a problem with the bounty manager then they should run their own investigation to determine the facts, in the end, they still have to pay.

So of the 135,000 TPay tokens how much did they pay?

[rumax]

That's the truth, I think it will be acceptable if the project failed but Tokenpay has value therefore they should pay their obligation.
If they have a problem with the bounty manager then they should run their own investigation to determine the facts, in the end, they still have to pay.

So of the 135,000 TPay tokens how much did they pay?

They did not pay anything, even the translators who strenuously tried did not receive a coin, all participants were simply given promises that they would be paid, but then after successful fees they refused to pay!

[JollyGood]

That's the truth, I think it will be acceptable if the project failed but Tokenpay has value therefore they should pay their obligation.
If they have a problem with the bounty manager then they should run their own investigation to determine the facts, in the end, they still have to pay.

So of the 135,000 TPay tokens how much did they pay?

They did not pay anything, even the translators who strenuously tried did not receive a coin, all participants were simply given promises that they would be paid, but then after successful fees they refused to pay!

I thought I read somewhere that the owner called "Derek" offered to pay just 5000 TPay. Did that transaction never go ahead?

So in the end does "Derek" still owe 135,000 TPay or 130,000 TPay?

[Javi_Anibarro]

After reading the thread i made a conclusion that they were not paying any bounties because they got a higher offer from others ? and selling it to them ?
why you guys kept silent after all this time ? flood their twitter ? asking it on their telegram ? or instagram ?
man it keeps moving downward straight to the hell, and every human that knew cryptocurrency used it as a place to make a lot of money without fulfilling their promises.
they need to be stopped, cryptoland is corrupted to the core because of that kind of human being.

[JollyGood]

After reading the thread i made a conclusion that they were not paying any bounties because they got a higher offer from others ? and selling it to them ?
why you guys kept silent after all this time ? flood their twitter ? asking it on their telegram ? or instagram ?
man it keeps moving downward straight to the hell, and every human that knew cryptocurrency used it as a place to make a lot of money without fulfilling their promises.
they need to be stopped, cryptoland is corrupted to the core because of that kind of human being.

I agree....

The people owed bounties should chase these scammers on Discord, Telegram, Facebook and Twitter as well as here in this forum to force them to explain their actions!

[lyfecoin]

I think you might be having a legal contract between you and the ICO managers when you have been hired as bounty manager.You should also be having the KYC/ID documents too.If the contract is not honored by ICO as per terms,you can sue them,report to LE or file a complaint with concerned authorities.Also let all investors,reviewers and exchanges know about the scam.You can get orders from court to suspend/freeze thier funds in exchanges and banks till the case is settled

[JollyGood]

I think you might be having a legal contract between you and the ICO managers when you have been hired as bounty manager.You should also be having the KYC/ID documents too.If the contract is not honored by ICO as per terms,you can sue them,report to LE or file a complaint with concerned authorities.Also let all investors,reviewers and exchanges know about the scam.You can get orders from court to suspend/freeze thier funds in exchanges and banks till the case is settled

Where is the bounty manager? Why is he not posting here?

[Mariia_BT]

It really feels bad when we are not paid for the work we really deserve, but this is how unfortunately most of over-the-internet dealings work.


For 99.9% of the population, $1 Million is a big amount BTW.  Feel really bad for your loss, but you need to just learn from mistake and move on and continue to do your work.

I can not argue with you that we must move on. But I am a participant in this bounty of the company, and I am sure that we should not forget about this attitude towards us. Evidence of this scamm should be a red flag, for those who still support this team.  And what confidence can there be after this.

We have different ways of moving on, yes, we have to move on but we should not forget what happened.
Their reputation is bigger than the amount of bounty, they just destroy it and they will never get a good reputation again unless they will reach
out to bounty hunters and pay what is due to them.

the main thing is that the rewards participants still paid. maybe that's not so important when, but it's important that it happened. Now there are many projects that simply do not pay the participants a reward and it is very bad that it exists.

[JollyGood]

is this still an issue?

they already ahead of their schedule and tpay already dropped below ico price just buy some

they already have partnership with verge and LTC

there are many bounty there that pays but no value

partnering with big companies doesn't prove them innocent.. I am sure when LTC and Verge realize about their this scam attempt. they'll reconsider their decision.

So this is the final post on this subject from the bounty manager jamalaezaz?

Today the TPay tokens are valued at $1.38 each so that values 135,000 tokens around $186,000.
At its peak 6 months ago the TPay tokens were $9.51 each so values 135,000 tokens arouns $1.28 million

The bounty program manager last posted on 12th August 2018 and today is 5th October 2018 so what has the bounty program manager jamalaezaz been doing since then to get back the 135,000 TPay tokens that are owed?

[YLVolkoVa]

After reading the thread i made a conclusion that they were not paying any bounties because they got a higher offer from others ? and selling it to them ?
why you guys kept silent after all this time ? flood their twitter ? asking it on their telegram ? or instagram ?
man it keeps moving downward straight to the hell, and every human that knew cryptocurrency used it as a place to make a lot of money without fulfilling their promises.
they need to be stopped, cryptoland is corrupted to the core because of that kind of human being.

I agree....

The people owed bounties should chase these scammers on Discord, Telegram, Facebook and Twitter as well as here in this forum to force them to explain their actions!

This was the case in the first time after the community learned about the team's fraud, but all attempts to influence the payments were unjustified. Participants were banned in chat telegram for any mention of bounty or simply ignored any questions about it! Therefore, this topic was created.

[JollyGood]

After reading the thread i made a conclusion that they were not paying any bounties because they got a higher offer from others ? and selling it to them ?
why you guys kept silent after all this time ? flood their twitter ? asking it on their telegram ? or instagram ?
man it keeps moving downward straight to the hell, and every human that knew cryptocurrency used it as a place to make a lot of money without fulfilling their promises.
they need to be stopped, cryptoland is corrupted to the core because of that kind of human being.

I agree....

The people owed bounties should chase these scammers on Discord, Telegram, Facebook and Twitter as well as here in this forum to force them to explain their actions!

This was the case in the first time after the community learned about the team's fraud, but all attempts to influence the payments were unjustified. Participants were banned in chat telegram for any mention of bounty or simply ignored any questions about it! Therefore, this topic was created.

Thank you for the post.

If the TokenPay team banned or kicked people in their Discord and Telegram then that means they wanted to censor them. The community should have flooded their Facebook and Twitter to fall back on.

What still remains to be answered is why the bounty program manager posted here for the last time on 12th August 2018 but today is 5th October 2018.

What has the bounty program manager jamalaezaz been doing since then to get back the 135,000 TPay tokens that are owed to bounty participants?

[jamalaezaz]

Bounty Program Scam: 110,000 Tpay Coins = $770,000
They have Agreed to Pay 100,000 TPay Coins for Bounties plus a 10000 Coins for Management fee. but once the bounty program finished ,, they suddenly started finding excuses and tried to keep reducing payment more and more.

Referral Bonus Scam 25,000 Tpay Coins = $175,000
I have referred tokenpay ICO to a chinese firm and have convinced them to invest in Tokenpay ICO. after that I've arranged a meeting call between that chinese firm and Derek capo which was ended up with 30 Bitcoin investment from that Chinese group.. for that Derek capo Agreed to Pay me 25k Tpay coins as my referral bonus (when the actual referral bonus that time at ICO website was 50%, but Derek Didn't agreed to pay me 50% referral bonus because that group did not joined through my referral link in ICO but they've made a direct deal with TokenPay owner (derek) so I didn't got the actual referral links but Derek agreed to pay me 25,000 Tpay coin for this big investment ) which was not fair but I still agreed. but instead of Paying me the 25k  Coins he paid me only 5000 Tpay coins after 2 month of requests and asking for payment everyday finally he opened up his mouth and refused  to pay me  25,000 Tpay coins. because after such a long delay the tokenpay Coin already gained a value in market and then Derek got jealous to pay the agreed amount for that deal.. according to him I didn't put so much efforts to arrange that 30 Bitcoins (Around 0.4 Million $ at that time's bitcoin price) Deal. so he decided to change his mind to pay the 25,000 Tpay coins and make it only 5000,


in Both Referral and Bounty Programs Derek and his Team Scammed Total 135,000 Tpay Coins which worth Around 945,000 Dollars (Almost 1 Million $) if we include the late/Delay Charges the funds add up more then 1 Million $$ worth of TokenPay..

The above bits of information are from the OP. In the end did this get sorted out?

Exactly how much of the 135,000 TPay tokens were given?

100,000 TPay tokens were supposed to go to the  Bounties
  10,000 TPay tokens were supposed to go to the Bounty Manager
  25,000 TPay tokens were supposed to go to the Bounty Manager for the referrals he paid for

Why are TokenPay using Twitter and alike? Why are they operating as if they did not scam anybody?

it's their plan to pretend to be innocent.

...Why are they operating as if they did not scam anybody?

This is the most interesting question recently in this thread. I'm interested too. They do not pay attention to this, as cold-blooded scammers. Just ignore this problem, as if they are deaf. Either blame the whole jamalaezaz. They say "look at his trust, and he has many accounts". But we know that this is not a problem, and that it can be easily verified.
I think that this team specifically hired a manager with a negative trust in order to blame to everything on him. It looks funny, does Derek really think he is the smartest.

https://twitter.com/tokenpay

Look at this Twitter page. They are behaving as if nobody knows they scammed the bounty smiling and taking selfies !

You might be right, maybe they selected this jamalaezaz person because he feedback and reputation are in tatters so it was easy to scam him.

Whatever the truth at the time, was this ever resolved? Did they ever release the 135,000 TPay tokens ?

they did not paid as of now. they are still scammers. they are trying to be very active . but one day they'll have to answer everything. I had these negative trusts even before their bounty. so this excuse is totally lame.

After reading the thread i made a conclusion that they were not paying any bounties because they got a higher offer from others ? and selling it to them ?
why you guys kept silent after all this time ? flood their twitter ? asking it on their telegram ? or instagram ?
man it keeps moving downward straight to the hell, and every human that knew cryptocurrency used it as a place to make a lot of money without fulfilling their promises.
they need to be stopped, cryptoland is corrupted to the core because of that kind of human being.

I agree....

The people owed bounties should chase these scammers on Discord, Telegram, Facebook and Twitter as well as here in this forum to force them to explain their actions!

This was the case in the first time after the community learned about the team's fraud, but all attempts to influence the payments were unjustified. Participants were banned in chat telegram for any mention of bounty or simply ignored any questions about it! Therefore, this topic was created.

Thank you for the post.

If the TokenPay team banned or kicked people in their Discord and Telegram then that means they wanted to censor them. The community should have flooded their Facebook and Twitter to fall back on.

What still remains to be answered is why the bounty program manager posted here for the last time on 12th August 2018 but today is 5th October 2018.

What has the bounty program manager jamalaezaz been doing since then to get back the 135,000 TPay tokens that are owed to bounty participants?

I tried to do my best. but I can not do anything alone. I got tired by asking bounty participants to support me. I asked them to report their telegram group. their twitter facebook accounts. and then my plan was to make all 2000 bounty participants to send emails to FBI and SEC. you can imagine when the police received 2000 complaints against someone (a company) then there must be some action taken.
but no one tried to help me. 
I am the biggest victim of that scam. as I lost total 30,000 TPay Coins.
I even talked with a Law Firm and after listening to our Case the lawyers was very positive about that case. they promised me to fight the case on our behalf. but I couldnn't arrange their fee alone.

[JollyGood]

I tried to do my best. but I can not do anything alone. I got tired by asking bounty participants to support me. I asked them to report their telegram group. their twitter facebook accounts. and then my plan was to make all 2000 bounty participants to send emails to FBI and SEC. you can imagine when the police received 2000 complaints against someone (a company) then there must be some action taken.
but no one tried to help me.  
I am the biggest victim of that scam. as I lost total 30,000 TPay Coins.
I even talked with a Law Firm and after listening to our Case the lawyers was very positive about that case. they promised me to fight the case on our behalf. but I couldnn't arrange their fee alone.

Thank you for the post. Since you are the bounty manager it is important for you to keep active in this thread from to time.

The sad fact of the matter is that TokenPay will not pay voluntarily because if they wanted to they would have done so by now. That does not mean they will not pay if the correct approach is taken. With the length of time that has passed it means a new approach is essential.

About the lawyer, I understand what you mean about lack of fees to pay the law firm. May I ask which country the lawyer is located in because I think these scammers are based in USA.

You say you are the biggest loser in this with 30,000 TPay tokens but is the list of bounty participants still available for all to see? If so where is the link please?

If none of the 2000 bounty participants are stepping forward with a class lawsuit action then to me the reason is because their share would be small. So far my calculations are:

Step 1) 135,000 TPay tokens - 30,000 (bounty manager) = 105,000 TPay
Step 2) 105,000 TPay tokens / 2000 participants = 52.5 TPay

If your top handful of bounty participants have several thousand US$ each then they should agree to a class action. The problem is that out of 2000 participants nobody has come forward to share the expenses of the lawyer. So if only 4 or 5 people sue the TokenPay owners by paying for a lawyer and win the case the courts will force TokenPay to pay everybody. Will somebody owed 1 TPay or 0.25 TPay be interested?

What was your exact relationship with user FruitsBasket?:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2728591.msg27929630

In the mean time I will add TokenPay to my scam alert signature.

[wndrbr3d]

That really impress how TokenPay Coin and similar projects exist when everybody knows about this situation with failed payout to bounty hunters. But it seems that nobody care it (except bh ofc).
If project cheated somebody even one time, nothing can forbid them to do this action twice and more.

[JollyGood]

That really impress how TokenPay Coin and similar projects exist when everybody knows about this situation with failed payout to bounty hunters. But it seems that nobody care it (except bh ofc).
If project cheated somebody even one time, nothing can forbid them to do this action twice and more.

It was mentioned in an earlier post that Token Pay scammer CEO Derek Capo and his team might have targeted jamalaezaz to make him the bounty campaign manager in order to switch the tables and blame him because of his negative Trust.

It was only when I read a post from FruitsBasket that I understood that Token Pay scammer CEO Derek Capo alleged jamalaezaz made multiple aliases and that was cited as an excuse for non-payment :  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2728591.msg27929630

[Vigens]

I am willing to share expenses. I can't remember how much TPAy is was going to receive from the bounty, but it was close to 3k usd at the time.

[JollyGood]

I am willing to share expenses. I can't remember how much TPAy is was going to receive from the bounty, but it was close to 3k usd at the time.

Well thank you for the post. If the bounty manager can arrange a few more people hopefully that would be enough to start a class legal action against these TokenPay scammers

[armaggedon]

is this still an issue?

they already ahead of their schedule and tpay already dropped below ico price just buy some

they already have partnership with verge and LTC

there are many bounty there that pays but no value

partnering with big companies doesn't prove them innocent.. I am sure when LTC and Verge realize about their this scam attempt. they'll reconsider their decision.

So this is the final post on this subject from the bounty manager jamalaezaz?

Today the TPay tokens are valued at $1.38 each so that values 135,000 tokens around $186,000.
At its peak 6 months ago the TPay tokens were $9.51 each so values 135,000 tokens arouns $1.28 million

The bounty program manager last posted on 12th August 2018 and today is 5th October 2018 so what has the bounty program manager jamalaezaz been doing since then to get back the 135,000 TPay tokens that are owed?

nothing, because it was the bounty manager's fault why the bounty is cancelled
Me too invest a great time in the bounty but I already moved on and i dont care anymore cause the project is going smoothly well.
yeah I know it's a let down that they did not pay the bounty  but again i already moved on and have bags load of tpay
well, i hope i will never see a TOKENPAY OVERPRICED SCAM when tokenpay starts gaining momentum. it was already below ICO price. I'm not foricing my way in to you bounty hunters and i know there is more projects in crypto but still you cant deny that the project is going pretty well and its just a matter of time before it rise.
well PEACE GUYS

[JollyGood]

is this still an issue?

they already ahead of their schedule and tpay already dropped below ico price just buy some

they already have partnership with verge and LTC

there are many bounty there that pays but no value

partnering with big companies doesn't prove them innocent.. I am sure when LTC and Verge realize about their this scam attempt. they'll reconsider their decision.

So this is the final post on this subject from the bounty manager jamalaezaz?

Today the TPay tokens are valued at $1.38 each so that values 135,000 tokens around $186,000.
At its peak 6 months ago the TPay tokens were $9.51 each so values 135,000 tokens arouns $1.28 million

The bounty program manager last posted on 12th August 2018 and today is 5th October 2018 so what has the bounty program manager jamalaezaz been doing since then to get back the 135,000 TPay tokens that are owed?

nothing, because it was the bounty manager's fault why the bounty is cancelledMe too invest a great time in the bounty but I already moved on and i dont care anymore cause the project is going smoothly well.

Please explain more. Why is it the bounty managers fault?