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November 04, 2013, 04:46:21 PM |
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I missed something. Can I get a link to the discussion where 30K BTC was won? Yeah, it wasn't won. It just should have been lost and wasn't... Nakowa bet around 1.5M BTC in a single day, and ended up slightly up on the day when he should have been over 15k BTC down. I think it was September 29th or there abouts. Here it is in chart form. As you can see, it's not that profits went down massively, but that expected profits went up massively at the end of September:
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November 04, 2013, 04:57:13 PM |
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I think a graph without Nakowas bets, comparing profit and 1% of wagered, would be quite telling. Possibly exclude Mechs' bets too.
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dooglus (OP)
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November 04, 2013, 05:39:41 PM Last edit: November 04, 2013, 06:38:02 PM by dooglus |
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Please don't deposit using inputs.io until further notice.
The Just-Dice account just had its balance stolen, despite using a very secure password, google-authenticator, and GPG.
I've contacted inputs.io support asking how this happened, and have disabled the code that credits inputs deposits to JD.
Edit: the amount stolen was a little over 42 BTC. Not huge, and covered by TF's collateral deposit.
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November 04, 2013, 06:38:42 PM |
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Please don't deposit using inputs.io until further notice.
The Just-Dice account just had its balance stolen, despite using a very secure password, google-authenticator, and GPG.
Please keep us updated.
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dooglus (OP)
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November 04, 2013, 07:22:57 PM |
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Please don't deposit using inputs.io until further notice.
The Just-Dice account just had its balance stolen, despite using a very secure password, google-authenticator, and GPG.
Please keep us updated. It looks like it's nothing to do with Just-Dice, but is a bigger issue with inputs.io: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1pw46j/someone_just_transferred_0095_from_my_inputsio/
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November 05, 2013, 12:24:42 AM |
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There's a bunch of people on Reddit talking about it; they were hacked.
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November 05, 2013, 12:32:03 AM |
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A full update will be posted soon, don't panic. Only people with the API key enabled was compromised (and will be reimbursed), passwords are securely stored one way in the database.
Security is obviously the most important thing to a Bitcoin wallet, and it's unfortunate that a compromise occurred, and we're learning a lot from it (things that pentests won't catch).
There will be a full update soon, but this compromise was not through a fault of the code but rather like a 'side channel' attack.
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November 05, 2013, 06:07:18 AM |
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Please don't deposit using inputs.io until further notice.
The Just-Dice account just had its balance stolen, despite using a very secure password, google-authenticator, and GPG.
I've contacted inputs.io support asking how this happened, and have disabled the code that credits inputs deposits to JD.
Edit: the amount stolen was a little over 42 BTC. Not huge, and covered by TF's collateral deposit.
ya wow i'm going to remove the inputs.io stuff from my page too!
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November 05, 2013, 08:00:10 PM |
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The Just-Dice account just had its balance stolen, despite using a very secure password, google-authenticator, and GPG.
Please keep us updated. The current situation is that I took 42 BTC from TradeFortress' Just-Dice account to replace the stolen coins, and then let him withdraw the rest. So we current are not holding any of his coins "hostage", and therefore can no longer accept inputs.io deposits without risking client funds. TF says he'll redeposit in the future, at which point JD will start taking input.io deposits again.
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November 07, 2013, 02:46:23 AM |
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The Just-Dice account just had its balance stolen, despite using a very secure password, google-authenticator, and GPG.
Please keep us updated. The current situation is that I took 42 BTC from TradeFortress' Just-Dice account to replace the stolen coins, and then let him withdraw the rest. So we current are not holding any of his coins "hostage", and therefore can no longer accept inputs.io deposits without risking client funds. TF says he'll redeposit in the future, at which point JD will start taking input.io deposits again. what's crackin' ? need help?
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November 07, 2013, 06:03:31 AM |
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TF says he'll redeposit in the future, at which point JD will start taking input.io deposits again.
what's crackin' ? need help? Before we started accepting inputs.io deposits, I made an arrangement with TF that I would hold his funds 'hostage' at JD, so that if inputs ever 'lost' the coins JD users had deposited, we would take them back from his JD balance. It turns out that inputs did lose 42.xx BTC of JD funds, and we took those 42.xx BTC out of TF's JD balance, as planned. He came into the JD chat, asking to withdraw the rest of the balance. Since we are no longer accepting inputs.io deposits since the hack, it seemed only fair to allow him to withdraw the remainder of his balance, which he did. So JD and TF are "all square" now. It's a shame we can't offer instant deposits to users any more. Perhaps some other web wallet will step up and take their place, offering instant deposits.
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8fold
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November 07, 2013, 06:08:52 AM |
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Bitrated user: 8fold.
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November 07, 2013, 08:37:54 AM |
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In this reddit thread it's said TF made all time high bets on JD, is that true?
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November 07, 2013, 08:57:28 AM |
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In this reddit thread it's said TF made all time high bets on JD, is that true? Back when JD was new, when the ATH was small and when BTCUSD was low. The bets are from my own funds.
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November 07, 2013, 04:45:16 PM |
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In this reddit thread it's said TF made all time high bets on JD, is that true? Back when JD was new, when the ATH was small and when BTCUSD was low. The bets are from my own funds. BTCUSD low ? I wasn't aware JD was operating since 2012 or earlier.
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November 07, 2013, 04:46:03 PM |
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In this reddit thread it's said TF made all time high bets on JD, is that true? Back when JD was new, when the ATH was small and when BTCUSD was low. The bets are from my own funds. BTCUSD low ? I wasn't aware JD was operating since 2012 or earlier. Low is relative term. You can bet $300 per coin will look extremely low if BTC is still around in 2017.
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November 07, 2013, 04:50:28 PM |
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In this reddit thread it's said TF made all time high bets on JD, is that true? Back when JD was new, when the ATH was small and when BTCUSD was low. The bets are from my own funds. BTCUSD low ? I wasn't aware JD was operating since 2012 or earlier. Low is relative term. You can bet $300 per coin will look extremely low if BTC is still around in 2017. Low here is not relative since BTCUSD wasn't low since JD started operating.
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November 07, 2013, 04:55:52 PM |
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In this reddit thread it's said TF made all time high bets on JD, is that true? Back when JD was new, when the ATH was small and when BTCUSD was low. The bets are from my own funds. BTCUSD low ? I wasn't aware JD was operating since 2012 or earlier. Low is relative term. You can bet $300 per coin will look extremely low if BTC is still around in 2017. Low here is not relative since BTCUSD wasn't low since JD started operating. It wasn't? AFAIK J-D started operating at the very end of June, and just a few days after we had a low of $63 on Bitstamp. Now its almost 5 times higher, thus we can say that $63 was low. As I said, if BTC is still around in 2017 $300 per coin will look very low.
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November 07, 2013, 04:59:26 PM |
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In this reddit thread it's said TF made all time high bets on JD, is that true? Back when JD was new, when the ATH was small and when BTCUSD was low. The bets are from my own funds. BTCUSD low ? I wasn't aware JD was operating since 2012 or earlier. Low is relative term. You can bet $300 per coin will look extremely low if BTC is still around in 2017. Low here is not relative since BTCUSD wasn't low since JD started operating. It wasn't? AFAIK J-D started operating at the very end of June, and just a few days after we had a low of $63 on Bitstamp. Now its almost 5 times higher, thus we can say that $63 was low. As I said, if BTC is still around in 2017 $300 per coin will look very low. $63, $50, $40 are all not low. Bitcoin used to be worth close to nothing, so this entire year is almost entirely very high. Saying that bets were done when BTCUSD was low has no meaning here.
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