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Author Topic: [ANN] Bitfury ASIC sales in EU and Europe  (Read 250421 times)
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July 09, 2013, 09:40:57 AM
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I don't want to be negative, but like in previous posts already mentioned, I think there is something wrong with the business plans.

I'm very interested in ordering in case the company is legit, and the devices exist. a bit like mentioned before:

- There is no name,  address, phone number, VAT number, registration number of the site, it is just an anonymous site without contact info
- the payment solutions are not very transparant , or via bitcoin (anonymous) or via local bank but no SEPA accepted?
- there are no clear delivery dates
- there are no terms and conditions on the site
- there is no working model shown in picture, youtube, ... do you have a working sample?
- whats the price if the august delivery will be delivered half sept? Will you refund a 25Gh starterkit with 250€ then?
- nowhere there is a legit kind of info about this company, we don't even know the company's name.
- are you really capable creating an official invoice document? So I can pay 1000€ via Sepa, you charge me 0% VAT because I have a registered EU VAT number.  If so, can you make your VAT number public?  I looks more that you guys do not understand tax regulations and the obligation to publish your company info and sales ant terms on the website.

This is not normal in my opinion.

- what happens If I place an order, pay 15000€ + VAT and a week later the site shuts down...? then me and a lot of other people lost their money (or BTC)
- what about EU sales regilations? Right to cancel order within 2 weeks of sale, or when goods are not delivered?
- a faq with complete business and address info would be welcome

If I see this I could start a scam, just develop a site,  and I call it Bitpower Extreme, i publish some printboard designs and  I start to sell preorders of 30Gh machines for €995, you can only pay in BTC  PS. I leave no address or info of myself. I'll close my website end of the month, thats the plan. You must be crazy to place pre-orders with me, no?

I hope that there will be some clarifications very soon!


+1 I totaly agree , I was looking at the web site, I searched for any legit infos or at least a prove of a working prototype before paying any order, and I even asked in a previous post about that, but the OP seems to ignore my question!! this leaves a big question mark, I mean if BFL and AVALON legit company's and customers are having refund problems because of their shitty schedule of shipping what we will say about this one ?
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July 09, 2013, 10:07:51 AM
Last edit: July 09, 2013, 01:43:52 PM by madsusies
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Registered through: Neobitti Domain Name: BITFURYSTRIKESBACK.COM
Registrant: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Domain servers in listed order: SARA.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM WALT.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM

For someone who ask VAT and use proxy services  Cheesy LOL if You ask for Finland company register nfo it would be registered  today  Tongue

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July 09, 2013, 12:00:47 PM
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All the risk on the customer's side, as usual with these ASIC preorder schemes. Win/win for the vendor.

Its getting tiresome indeed.


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July 09, 2013, 12:56:03 PM
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Registered through: Neobitti Domain Name: BITFURYSTRIKESBACK.COM
Registrant: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Domain servers in listed order: SARA.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM WALT.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM

For someone who ask VAT and use proxy services  Cheesy LOL if You ask for Finlad conpany register nfo it would be registered  today  Tongue

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July 09, 2013, 01:52:15 PM
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Domain ID:D164741866-LROR
Domain Name:BITFURY.ORG
Created On:17-Feb-2012 14:32:32 UTC
Last Updated On:07-Feb-2013 13:13:51 UTC
Expiration Date:17-Feb-2014 14:32:32 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com, LLC (R91-LROR)
Registrant ID:CR105881821
Registrant Name:Registration Private
Registrant Organization:Domains By Proxy, LLC
Registrant Street1:DomainsByProxy.com
Registrant Street2:15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Scottsdale
Registrant State/Province:Arizona
Registrant Postal Code:85260
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.4806242599
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:+1.4806242598


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Status : Live
Expiry : 2014-06-16

NS 1   : dns1.namebay.com
NS 2   : dns2.namebay.com

Owner  : Luis Henriques
       : BitCentury Inc.
       : P.O. Box N-4825!2nd Floor!Olde Towne Marina, Sandyport West Bay Street
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Expertise: Management & execution of multi-million dollar IT projects, Network Engineer, Network Security, Data Center Operations, Systems Administration
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July 09, 2013, 04:55:13 PM
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All July and October options are out of stock.
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July 09, 2013, 04:56:58 PM
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So what just happened with the multiple kits for October August delivery to the US I ordered from http://megabigpower.com/ ??  My money and the store seem to have disappeared?  Now there's just a single web page advertising hosting.
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July 09, 2013, 04:57:17 PM
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All July and October options are out of stock.
where do you get that info?

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July 09, 2013, 05:00:43 PM
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So what just happened with the multiple kits for October delivery to the US I ordered from http://megabigpower.com/ ??  My money and the store seem to have disappeared?  Now there's just a single web page advertising hosting.

What does this have to do with the Bitfury site or this thread?

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July 09, 2013, 05:02:03 PM
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So what just happened with the multiple kits for October delivery to the US I ordered from http://megabigpower.com/ ??  My money and the store seem to have disappeared?  Now there's just a single web page advertising hosting.

What does this have to do with the Bitfury site or this thread?

That was supposed to be the US distributor for the Bitfury products, which I ordered for August delivery.
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July 09, 2013, 05:05:38 PM
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So what just happened with the multiple kits for October delivery to the US I ordered from http://megabigpower.com/ ??  My money and the store seem to have disappeared?  Now there's just a single web page advertising hosting.

What does this have to do with the Bitfury site or this thread?

That was supposed to be the US distributor for the Bitfury products, which I ordered for August delivery.

he has a new url,

see here pal:

https://megabigpower.com/shop/

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July 09, 2013, 05:09:32 PM
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Thank you.  I see that all the links have changed to https:// instead of just http://

It made me real nervous that the links to my orders didn't work anymore.... 
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July 09, 2013, 05:22:54 PM
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Thank you.  I see that all the links have changed to https:// instead of just http://

It made me real nervous that the links to my orders didn't work anymore....  
US sales has their thread as well, they have stated that store could be down a little as change to ssl.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=251966.0
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July 09, 2013, 05:57:27 PM
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wtf, all devices out of stock, what is going on.
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July 09, 2013, 06:03:01 PM
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only august und july delivery, as punin mentioned to me there would only be limited amount of parts on stock. But i also hadnt expected this would go this fast.

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July 09, 2013, 06:24:01 PM
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Hey guys, I will probably make a design for a casing, currently waiting for punins answer on this matter, he mentioned that they will maybe provide casings on there own.

Anyone interested in this?

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July 09, 2013, 06:26:09 PM
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only august und july delivery, as punin mentioned to me there would only be limited amount of parts on stock. But i also hadnt expected this would go this fast.
Who care "THANKS buzzdave" everithing is Out of stock why bother sell something in EU, just send all in USA. In October I'll resend for free all bitfury products to Asian customers. Why ? Oh yes you can get on tax a lot Eur back and send stuff as gifts, no customs fee Smiley

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July 09, 2013, 06:30:40 PM
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only august und july delivery, as punin mentioned to me there would only be limited amount of parts on stock. But i also hadnt expected this would go this fast.
Who care "THANKS buzzdave" everithing is Out of stock why bother sell something in EU, just send all in USA. In October I'll resend for free all bitfury products to Asian customers. Why ? Oh yes you can get on tax a lot Eur back and send stuff as gifts, no customs fee Smiley


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July 09, 2013, 06:35:30 PM
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why ? you pay in eu, and  send for free in Asia as a gift Cheesy there is nothing else or do You think the folks will be happy  pay more then 25% (i do not know,where i live it's Tax+fee 35%) from 15 000 EUR pre-orders in USA as the customs fee Smiley))

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July 09, 2013, 06:53:07 PM
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it must be me, but I haven't the slightest clue what you're talking about.
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