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July 17, 2013, 03:09:35 PM
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Should Ken spend money to hire a professional design firm to build the website then?

Yes, a very big YES!!

The website will be the face of the company - selling asic's to customers. It MUST be professional.

We're talking about spending $1Million on NRE, but won't spend a few $1000's on a proper website??


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July 17, 2013, 03:13:26 PM
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Should Ken spend money to hire a professional design firm to build the website then?

Yes, a very big YES!!

The website will be the face of the company - selling asic's to customers. It MUST be professional.

We're talking about spending $1Million on NRE, but won't spend a few $1000's on a proper website??



I put almost no stock in the design and layout of a website.  Anyone can make one look good, but I can see why certain people do feel this way.

I would tend to disagree though, the website is not and will not be the face of the company.  The customers and the delivery of a product, the miners, will be the face.  A website is a marketing tool, pure and simple.

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July 17, 2013, 03:21:01 PM
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Any shareholders dropped 4K (or more) on a FAST-HASH-ONE preorder yet? (link: http://virtualminingcorp.com/shop1/index.php?id_product=10&controller=product) I'm considering taking the plunge, and I wanted to know if that was a common sentiment amongst ActM shareholders.

I'm debating pulling the trigger on one as well. I just don't like putting cash down for a unit when i could buy shares at this point.

The bigger gamble is the price of BTC dropping hard. And to add some evidence to that, outside of the decent probability that we are still correcting, is the Gox problems regarding their illiquidity problem. That .25 BTC bounty for a screenshot of a successful withdrawl (active for days now and still unmet) is VERY TELLING. The growing disparity between Gox and STamp is also a concern.

I would love to get a miner but right now buying BTC at these prices is a gamble. On top of that getting a September delivery met is a bigger gamble. And on top of that the large numbers of ASICs about to be shipped is an even bigger gamble.

Suffice to say, the odds are not in our favor. My bet is to buy BTC if and when the price comes down.

I'll support the network with my erupter and Client and whenever my 7Gh Jalapeno arrives...

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July 17, 2013, 03:28:29 PM
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Should Ken spend money to hire a professional design firm to build the website then?

Yes, a very big YES!!

The website will be the face of the company - selling asic's to customers. It MUST be professional.

We're talking about spending $1Million on NRE, but won't spend a few $1000's on a proper website??



I put almost no stock in the design and layout of a website.  Anyone can make one look good, but I can see why certain people do feel this way.

I would tend to disagree though, the website is not and will not be the face of the company.  The customers and the delivery of a product, the miners, will be the face.  A website is a marketing tool, pure and simple.



^THIS

What? pretty soon there will be complaints about the design of the box the miner is going in... Packaging means fuckall. Packaging and design are a marketing gimmick that has been forced down our throats by corps and ad agencies.

I'm a designer and I could give a shit what a companies website looks like unless they are a ad agency/design firm/etc.

A fancy website means one of three things:

1. The VC's took control of the reins and bitched about needing a fancy website.

2. A lame template was purchased from any multitude of cheap template design sites.

3. Way too much time was spent making a fancy website (cryoniks) so that a scam could be pulled off.

We're not selling juicers to average joe customers. These are highly specialized machines that take an expert to run properly. The people who want to buy these devices could really give a shit how fancy the design of the site is as long as the product delivers what it claims.


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July 17, 2013, 03:41:09 PM
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Should Ken spend money to hire a professional design firm to build the website then?

Yes, a very big YES!!

The website will be the face of the company - selling asic's to customers. It MUST be professional.

We're talking about spending $1Million on NRE, but won't spend a few $1000's on a proper website??



I put almost no stock in the design and layout of a website.  Anyone can make one look good, but I can see why certain people do feel this way.

I would tend to disagree though, the website is not and will not be the face of the company.  The customers and the delivery of a product, the miners, will be the face.  A website is a marketing tool, pure and simple.



^THIS

What? pretty soon there will be complaints about the design of the box the miner is going in... Packaging means fuckall. Packaging and design are a marketing gimmick that been forced down our throats by corps and ad agencies.

I'm a designer and I could give a shit what a companies website looks like unless they are a ad agency/design firm/etc.

A fancy website means one of three things:

1. The VC's took control of the reins and bitched about needing a fancy website.

2. A lame template was purchased from any multitude of cheap template design sites.

3. Way too much time was spent making a fancy website (cryoniks) so that a scam could be pulled off.

We're not selling juicers to average joe customers. These are specialized machines that take an expert to run properly. The people who want to buy these devices could really give a shit how fancy the design of the site is as long as the product delivers what it claims.


The more austere the more better.


LOL there is complaints about the chassis the miner is to be housed in.  Lots of tears over the images being stolen, without any realization that those generic chassis from chenbro are in fact what the miner will go in.

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July 17, 2013, 03:49:16 PM
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LOL there is complaints about the chassis the miner is to be housed in.  Lots of tears over the images being stolen, without any realization that those generic chassis' from chenbro are in fact what the miner will go in.

There! Smiley https://www.flickr.com/photos/98907028@N08/9282024072/ An ungeneric one straight from VMC's shop! Grin
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July 17, 2013, 03:53:48 PM
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LOL there is complaints about the chassis the miner is to be housed in.  Lots of tears over the images being stolen, without any realization that those generic chassis' from chenbro are in fact what the miner will go in.

There! Smiley https://www.flickr.com/photos/98907028@N08/9282024072/ An ungeneric one straight from VMC's shop! Grin

Yep, I posted this elsewhere as well.  Shit, at my place of employment we have two of these cases, one houses an old phone system for a remote region, the other is a generic server outside of our vSphere cluster.  I dont see why all the uninformed people out there assume it was stolen.  They were able to discern it was a chenbro but not at the same time realize it is a generic case that could be used for many different setups?

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July 17, 2013, 04:59:26 PM
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Just posted some fresh estimates on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=254930.msg2749219#msg2749219 Grin
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July 17, 2013, 05:09:49 PM
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Will update the Speculation thread OP with this chart if you dont mind?

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July 17, 2013, 05:11:03 PM
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Will update the Speculation thread OP with this chart if you dont mind?

Of course not! Grin Feel free to add any remarks also!
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July 17, 2013, 05:16:09 PM
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When I google 'bitcoin mining machines', VMC is about rank 7. The summary beneath the URL says 'plant' instead if 'planet'. I can't see this typo on the VMC home page or meta data, so it could be an out of date Google cache.

You need to understand how google works.  They store your searches and preferences (and god knows what else) to personalize your "experience".  Here's a little experiment:

User 1 searches "monsanto" resulting in pages describing pesticides and GMOs and protests.

User 2 searches "monsanto" resulting in pages describing financial reports and court decisions.

As is the case you've heard so often, "results may vary".

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July 17, 2013, 05:19:56 PM
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When I google 'bitcoin mining machines', VMC is about rank 7. The summary beneath the URL says 'plant' instead if 'planet'. I can't see this typo on the VMC home page or meta data, so it could be an out of date Google cache.

You need to understand how google works.  They store your searches and preferences (and god knows what else) to personalize your "experience".  Here's a little experiment:

User 1 searches "monsanto" resulting in pages describing pesticides and GMOs and protests.

User 2 searches "monsanto" resulting in pages describing financial reports and court decisions.

As is the case you've heard so often, "results may vary".

I know how Google works, the point of my post was to highlight the typo for Ken's attention.
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July 17, 2013, 05:40:19 PM
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I know how Google works, the point of my post was to highlight the typo for Ken's attention.

Sorry, I thought you were talking about the ranking.

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July 17, 2013, 05:55:49 PM
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I know how Google works, the point of my post was to highlight the typo for Ken's attention.

Sorry, I thought you were talking about the ranking.

No, I just threw that in there for a bit of colour. The typo is the problem.  Smiley
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July 17, 2013, 08:58:18 PM
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Ken's been busy today taking orders and such. Transfers will be taken care of tonight and tomorrow. Likewise, dividends will be payed tomorrow as well.
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July 17, 2013, 09:20:39 PM
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Ken's been busy today taking orders and such. Transfers will be taken care of tonight and tomorrow. Likewise, dividends will be payed tomorrow as well.

@lewicki Thank You.  Grin
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July 18, 2013, 01:17:09 AM
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How are we going with the AMC BTC-TC -----> AM BTC-TC. I see its still awaiting approval by BTC-TC?
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July 18, 2013, 01:21:12 AM
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How are we going with the AMC BTC-TC -----> AM BTC-TC. I see its still awaiting approval by BTC-TC?

Nothing on that we can do but wait for approving votes

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July 18, 2013, 02:31:25 AM
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How are we going with the AMC BTC-TC -----> AM BTC-TC. I see its still awaiting approval by BTC-TC?

Nothing on that we can do but wait for approving votes

BTCT would probably give at least 1 more approval vote if the requested ticker were changed from AM to ACTM.

"BlackLilac voted ABSTAIN with comment: I find it very questionable that this asset is trying to use the abbreviation "AM". That seems like an apparent attempt to cause confusion between and/or association with ASICMINER."

I share the same opinion - at the minimum, it gives the appearance that ActiveMiner is embracing brand confusion as a marketing ploy. Why not clear this up?

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How are we going with the AMC BTC-TC -----> AM BTC-TC. I see its still awaiting approval by BTC-TC?

Nothing on that we can do but wait for approving votes

BTCT would probably give at least 1 more approval vote if the requested ticker were changed from AM to ACTM.

"BlackLilac voted ABSTAIN with comment: I find it very questionable that this asset is trying to use the abbreviation "AM". That seems like an apparent attempt to cause confusion between and/or association with ASICMINER."

I share the same opinion - at the minimum, it gives the appearance that ActiveMiner is embracing brand confusion as a marketing ploy. Why not clear this up?

The ticker is ActiveMining

Update:  Removed the AM after ActiveMining in the details.
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