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April 17, 2018, 02:59:13 PM |
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I dont understand y there are still 120+ users
Bitcointalk is not the center of the world... If you say "scam" only bitcointalk members know about... And it runs in both ways...if people here talk about my dishonnest red trust...only members here can see it...and only few ones believe it.
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April 17, 2018, 03:38:12 PM |
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I dont understand y there are still 120+ users
Bitcointalk is not the center of the world... If you say "scam" only bitcointalk members know about... And it runs in both ways...if people here talk about my dishonnest red trust...only members here can see it...and only few ones believe it. So what i gather from your sentence is that you are basically admitting that the dishonesty about you is true...
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April 17, 2018, 03:48:37 PM |
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I dont understand y there are still 120+ users
Bitcointalk is not the center of the world... If you say "scam" only bitcointalk members know about... And it runs in both ways...if people here talk about my dishonnest red trust...only members here can see it...and only few ones believe it. So what i gather from your sentence is that you are basically admitting that the dishonesty about you is true... I do not judge meself...I know that I'm honest and that during the at least 20 years I offer cash opportunities nobody has been scamed,and it is not now or in 2015 I would start scam for few dollars.
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April 17, 2018, 06:02:05 PM |
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Well ... one more Tuesday! The cost of bitcoin grows ... no one lost their money because they did not invest in Tomos! Even I hoped until the last ... How to look .. all honest admins! And spit in whom !? 99% of admins of projects use deception! Trusting .. and suddenly I'm lucky! Rich ones who deceive .. betray their subscribers! And the rest of them try to make money!
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April 19, 2018, 12:43:27 AM |
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still no sign of tomos ?
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April 19, 2018, 09:37:52 AM |
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Today I have paid a visit to the site just to have a look at my dead balance. You know, like to visit the graveyard and try to remember the old good times. The picture of my wannabe coins is still there. Laid some flowers, a small tear and I left. Now I'm feeling much better
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April 19, 2018, 09:48:12 AM |
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Today I have paid a visit to the site just to have a look at my dead balance. You know, like to visit the graveyard and try to remember the old good times. The picture of my wannabe coins is still there. Laid some flowers, a small tear and I left. Now I'm feeling much better I hope you believe in hope...
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April 19, 2018, 09:58:12 AM |
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Today I have paid a visit to the site just to have a look at my dead balance. You know, like to visit the graveyard and try to remember the old good times. The picture of my wannabe coins is still there. Laid some flowers, a small tear and I left. Now I'm feeling much better I hope you believe in hope... No, I don't. I am simply sorry to have decided to trust somebody who had anyway a good reputation. But it is my fault, at the end. When I started I knew of the problems in payments. I took my risk and I have lost, but not more that I can afford to lose. But I promise that, if one day I will see those coins coming home, I will become a strong believer in resurrection
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April 19, 2018, 10:31:53 AM |
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When the payouts are too good, it usually always messes up. We have to take advantage of earning in the early stages because the payout is good and then try to guess when it will become SCAM.
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April 19, 2018, 11:38:36 AM |
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When the payouts are too good, it usually always messes up. We have to take advantage of earning in the early stages because the payout is good and then try to guess when it will become SCAM.
(lol) I offer sure cash for mining...is is criticized as well because it is not much...people prefer nothing that not much...so is life. So many here have agreed tomos sayings about my real payout... So far I have paid before him and I pay after him...(I know that he is reading this) But perhaps he will come back ...who knows?
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April 19, 2018, 03:34:32 PM |
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When the payouts are too good, it usually always messes up. We have to take advantage of earning in the early stages because the payout is good and then try to guess when it will become SCAM.
(lol) I offer sure cash for mining...is is criticized as well because it is not much...people prefer nothing that not much...so is life. So many here have agreed tomos sayings about my real payout... So far I have paid before him and I pay after him...(I know that he is reading this) But perhaps he will come back ...who knows? The problem is that 300 satoshi per mil is barely profitable for someone who is doing the mining. Anything less than that is only profitable for who hosts the pool, for the miners it's just a waste of time and money. Now if you dont pay for electricity is one thing, but if you do, then it's stupid to invest in something that doesnt pring anything back, unless u just love paying for your computer to mine.
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April 19, 2018, 03:42:51 PM |
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When the payouts are too good, it usually always messes up. We have to take advantage of earning in the early stages because the payout is good and then try to guess when it will become SCAM.
(lol) I offer sure cash for mining...is is criticized as well because it is not much...people prefer nothing that not much...so is life. So many here have agreed tomos sayings about my real payout... So far I have paid before him and I pay after him...(I know that he is reading this) But perhaps he will come back ...who knows? The problem is that 300 satoshi per mil is barely profitable for someone who is doing the mining. Anything less than that is only profitable for who hosts the pool, for the miners it's just a waste of time and money. Now if you dont pay for electricity is one thing, but if you do, then it's stupid to invest in something that doesnt pring anything back, unless u just love paying for your computer to mine. What you say is not wrong but unlogic... How many people write here or read here for earning nothing?Is it the "computer cost" worth? All my miners earn something...and often the ones who mine the least are those who earn relatively the most. But it this not the topic: The topic is that what was promised is not hold and the "promiser" is the one who laught me out the most.
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April 19, 2018, 04:05:46 PM |
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@winspiral, you missed his point.
Cryptocurrency mining requires electricity. To run the computer. If the payouts are considerably below 300 satoshis/million hashes, then it costs more to purchase the electricity than it earns in crypto.
Just basic common sense. Earnings have to be greater than expenses.
And that doesn't even factor in wear and tear on components.
His point is valid.
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April 19, 2018, 04:23:16 PM |
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@winspiral, you missed his point.
Cryptocurrency mining requires electricity. To run the computer. If the payouts are considerably below 300 satoshis/million hashes, then it costs more to purchase the electricity than it earns in crypto.
Just basic common sense. Earnings have to be greater than expenses.
And that doesn't even factor in wear and tear on components.
His point is valid.
I pay out in $cents because people are not used to pay electricity in satoshi... I just see a miner who earned $0.06 (700 satoshi) for 0.5 million hashes... Sorry you can not say this user was wrong to chose my system... You have over 30 examples about how much miners have earned.
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April 19, 2018, 04:44:00 PM |
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@winspiral, you missed his point.
Cryptocurrency mining requires electricity. To run the computer. If the payouts are considerably below 300 satoshis/million hashes, then it costs more to purchase the electricity than it earns in crypto.
Just basic common sense. Earnings have to be greater than expenses.
And that doesn't even factor in wear and tear on components.
His point is valid.
I pay out in $cents because people are not used to pay electricity in satoshi... I just see a miner who earned $0.06 (700 satoshi) for 0.5 million hashes... Sorry you can not say this user was wrong to chose my system... You have over 30 examples about how much miners have earned. So you are saying you pay $0.06 for half million hashes?
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April 19, 2018, 04:57:12 PM |
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I will send you more traffic than you can even imagine, if you can guarantee me a rate of 1400 satoshis/million.
Can you guarantee me this rate?
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April 19, 2018, 05:08:45 PM |
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@winspiral, you missed his point.
Cryptocurrency mining requires electricity. To run the computer. If the payouts are considerably below 300 satoshis/million hashes, then it costs more to purchase the electricity than it earns in crypto.
Just basic common sense. Earnings have to be greater than expenses.
And that doesn't even factor in wear and tear on components.
His point is valid.
I pay out in $cents because people are not used to pay electricity in satoshi... I just see a miner who earned $0.06 (700 satoshi) for 0.5 million hashes... Sorry you can not say this user was wrong to chose my system... You have over 30 examples about how much miners have earned. So you are saying you pay $0.06 for half million hashes? No. I say : A member earned $0.06 for half million hashes...but not only,even much more: For 0.444160 million hashes: $0.06 + 20 miner shares (potentialy worth $0.035) + 14.38 WSPU2pts (potentialy worth $0.01438) The winspiral's mining system is a game...nobody is forced to participe and every one chose his own strategy. I will send you more traffic than you can even imagine, if you can guarantee me a rate of 1400 satoshis/million.
Can you guarantee me this rate?
I guarantee nothing: I offer a cake more or less big and it is shared by my members in a way...the strategy is to get the biggest part with profit. Some members are "better" than other ones...it seems.
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April 19, 2018, 05:21:29 PM |
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So shut up.
You don't provide a rate, like every legit mining operation does. I could mine there, and give you 10,000,000 hashes for nothing.
I ran a dogecoin giveaway on an early site I ran, and gave away 10,000 dogecoin. Does that mean I can advertise that my users earn 10,000 doge for filling out a short survey? Spoiler alert: that is unethical, and misleading at best.
So short answer. NO. You don't have the most profitable mining scheme. It's only profitable for whatever lucky user (probably yourself) wins the "jackpot"... You run a lottery, not a mining system.
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April 19, 2018, 05:30:57 PM |
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So shut up.
You don't provide a rate, like every legit mining operation does. I could mine there, and give you 10,000,000 hashes for nothing.
I ran a dogecoin giveaway on an early site I ran, and gave away 10,000 dogecoin. Does that mean I can advertise that my users earn 10,000 doge for filling out a short survey? Spoiler alert: that is unethical, and misleading at best.
So short answer. NO. You don't have the most profitable mining scheme. It's only profitable for whatever lucky user (probably yourself) wins the "jackpot"... You run a lottery, not a mining system.
It's not a lottery,it's a strategic game where you try to earn. The more risk you take,the more you will earn,but it is perhaps not profitable for you. You have to use your brain...sorry.
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April 19, 2018, 05:39:17 PM |
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Nope. You are the one that needs to use your brain. Risk implies chance, correct? For proof I bring Thesaurus.com http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/risk?s=tA synonym for risk is "luck", "speculation", "uncertainty", and "gamble". Well. Google gives this definition for "lottery", as the following: a process or thing whose success or outcome is governed by chance.
So by your own words, it is a lottery. Perhaps my head just doesn't think right. Enlighten me?
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