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hope 15april comes soon so that i can sell my locked tokens Yes, I am hoping for that day too. I can't believe the way Firelotto is handling this situation as it is. They seem only driven to promote the project and upcoming ICO. They have some real problems here at the moment and they just aren't addressing them. From what I've been reading lately it does appear that they are being scammed by some group who wants money from them. However, if Firelotto is indeed legit then they have nothing to fear from the scammers. My name now happens to be on this list of supposed scammers and I am pissed about that. I am a legit investor having bought FLOT. My investment here is my first step into the world of cryptocurrency, so of course, I would have a newbie account. I have actually posted a screengrab showing my purchase into their project yet they still want to tell everyone that I am part of the SCAM TEAM. Not wanting to look into, correct or acknowledge that they have made a mistake makes me feel they only have one objective and that is grab what money they can and fuck the people that bought into the project. I have contacted Firelotto support regarding this matter but have not yet received a response from them. I don't really care to be involved in this, but this is my money and I have a right to call them out as an investor. However, as anyone can see here, they are showing no signs of looking after their investor. Call him a scammer instead. One thing I don't understand now and I am not claiming to be a businessman of any sort is why would a project have so many people working with it that were connected to another recently failed project. They must have known that at some point people would start connecting the dots. So is this really just a scam, intended to make some quick money and then fold? I don't know. What I do know is that Firelotto is very slow to protect the investor.
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March 04, 2018, 07:34:47 PM |
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Very good team, i see real attack on this project, becouse this gay is using a lot of fake accounts. Good luck Fire Lotto team!
Yes they are extortioners of money!SCAMMERS team members are: - mosprognoz; - kruglikov; - gorbal - atenolol - flaggin - kermitas All accounts are Newbie and created just with one reason - to discredit Fire Lotto project.More misinformation by so called team. ket_gav claims to be the admin of this thread yet he spreads bullshit to the unsuspecting. At the time he posted this, only three of those members are new accounts; myself included because I am an investor in the project. The other three members are full and junior members. Don't trust anything ket_gav says. He doesn't know what he is talking about. Paid to post.
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March 04, 2018, 09:43:34 PM Last edit: March 04, 2018, 10:42:02 PM by kruglikov |
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More misinformation by so called team. ket_gav claims to be the admin of this thread yet he spreads bullshit to the unsuspecting. At the time he posted this, only three of those members are new accounts; myself included because I am an investor in the project. The other three members are full and junior members. Don't trust anything ket_gav says. He doesn't know what he is talking about. Paid to post.
As you can clearly see, my account was registered in October 2107. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile and I posted only one negative post about fire lotto in this thread before today's posts. I was called "SCAM TEAM MEMBER" straight away. I suppose that this so called "extortion letter" was written by scammers themselves to avoid the questions about their very suspicious activities. This project screams "SCAM" Just check the old posts from forum members about this "project" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2579275.msg27943143#msg27943143 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2579275.msg27854143#msg27854143 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2579275.msg27869759#msg27869759 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2579275.msg27811615#msg27811615 And here is the post of ket_gav where he/she accuses another people of extorting the money https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2579275.msg27862506#msg27862506 I' am reposting here the post of the forum member about Roman Demidov (CEO of Fire Lotto) Please read it carefully. (Roman is telling incredible and fake stories about extortionists) This is the confirmation that "extortion letter" was written by scammers themselves. This scammers are not smart. They are idiots! Roman, do not disgrace yourself with such screenshots of "correspondence". What is icolab? What connects me to this project?
There are facts, let's not hide them, so people can all draw the right conclusions: 1. There is ICOLAB.ME, to which you are directly related. 2. There are still enough proofs in Google that this is your company: https://i.imgur.com/RXDW20E.png. Also you were the speaker at the conference in December, as co-founder of ICOLAB company http://cryptofest.online3. On the site of ICOLAB.ME you have placed the names of people who have never been your partners. You did this to mislead investors, create yourself an image of an expert 4. As soon as Jake Brukhman posted the tweet https://twitter.com/jbrukh/status/950443915999629314, you deleted everywhere where possible mention of icolab.me. I posted in the russian thread enough screenshots. But can duplicate here: https://imgur.com/gcWGS7Ehttps://imgur.com/bkG4e3Mhttps://imgur.com/Cl89Oj45. "The site was not advertised anywhere". Really? A couple of days ago the site was listed on the main page of your scam ICO Now the most interesting. You wrote: The guys said that they were removed from there, but they were removed very long
So you claim that Adam Draper and Jake Brukhman knew that their names were posted on the icolab.me website? Right? And they told you what "they were removed from there". Well, let's fix this statement here and ask them if it's true. It will be fair. Roman, all your attempts to justify yourself do not work. You just look ridiculous - fake screenshots, incredible stories about extortionists and mysterious partners who made the site. But the fact is that you used the names of famous people to promote your project without their consent, and now you try to cover up it all.
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March 04, 2018, 10:50:14 PM |
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It will be interesting to see what wind they have left in their sails now. I doubt ket_gav and CashPokerPro will have much else to say here on this thread. I don't think they counted on the mistake of accusing an actual investor in their project of being a member of a SCAM TEAM. I already feel that my investment is lost. Whereas before, I had hoped to protect my investment, I now only feel obligated to warn future investors that the project is a scam. They have their ICO starting soon. Obviously, they've given me no choice but to discourage others from investing. They call me an extortionist and that is fine. I'd love for them to try and prove that anywhere to any straight thinking person. They are so stupid that they don't realize yet they don't need their imaginary SCAM TEAM to do damage to them. All they needed to do was accuse one legitimate investor of being a scammer. Well done Roman and team. Do you think I was that stupid that I thought I needed to buy FLOT in order to scam you? Bet you didn't see that one coming. Again, for any future investors, here is the screenshot showing my investment into the project. So far my only return is being called a scammer. https://i.imgur.com/4jDslO6.png
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March 04, 2018, 11:23:23 PM |
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I am also AN INVESTOR.https://ibb.co/bA7ThnI was an idiot for investing. Why would they call me a scammer? I am looking for TRUTH & JUSTICE. My MONEY was basically stolen by these guys. I researched them, their previous Cash Poker scam ICO, fake people on their Team, but all after I put my good hard earned cash in. So shame on me for believing a bunch of RUSSIAN CRIMINALS. https://ibb.co/bA7Thn
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I am also AN INVESTOR.https://ibb.co/bA7ThnI was an idiot for investing. Why would they call me a scammer? I am looking for TRUTH & JUSTICE. My MONEY was basically stolen by these guys. I researched them, their previous Cash Poker scam ICO, fake people on their Team, but all after I put my good hard earned cash in. So shame on me for believing a bunch of RUSSIAN CRIMINALS. https://ibb.co/bA7ThnGood to meet you fellow investor/scammer. Yes, I had some hesitancy in buying into this for some time. But I had been reading the forum since it only had two posts on it. I was waiting to see a vote of confidence in what I was reading. I started to eventually feel safer about investing and bought in just before the presale ended. It wasn't until I asked my first question on the forum and got some shitty ass response from ket_gav, that I started having some real doubts. I invested with that saying, 'invest only what you can afford to lose' and so was always aware I was taking a gamble. If I just outright lost the money, I could handle that, but to be called a scammer is something else. Totally pisses me off to no end. Whatever I can do to bring these guys down now, I am prepared to do. There are YouTube videos and several other forums where people are asking questions about this project. I intend to direct any and all to this thread to watch what is happening. As much as I'd love to see the project move forward and return my investment, I don't see that happening. Might as well save some others from making same mistake.
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March 05, 2018, 12:52:48 AM |
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If they used fake identities how would you report them to the authorities? I just checked their website and it seems those lotteries still work. Or did they manipulate those lotteries?
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March 05, 2018, 09:49:07 AM Last edit: March 05, 2018, 10:24:55 AM by mosprognoz |
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I'm a fucking scammer and need to be jailed!
Yes dude, according to countless evidences presented here in this thread, you and your affiliates are immoral motherfuckers, criminals, SCAMMERS and identity thieves! We already heard about that fake extortion stories many times https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2579275.msg27943143#msg27943143 You are writing email to yourself and accusing of extortion anybody, who posts a negative comment about your fucking scammy project here. I already reported you to authorities and others will do the same. Just check some previous posts of fellow forum members and you will understand everything. DO NOT SEND A PENNY TO THAT SCAMMERS AND IDENTITY THIEVES!
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March 05, 2018, 10:24:52 AM |
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Step 1: During a drawing, the 1st is taken after the time current publicly hash code of a bitcoin block is taken from blockchain.info. For example: 000000000000000000229a9deacb0ed81b54afb92581e9b5b2e25dbd3a8069a2
Because there is no way that smart contract will make an external call (for example: to blockchain.info) that means that other, centralized server(s) are required. Are you still saying that "FireLotto is 100% decentralized platform piwered by smart contracts only"? Also - if that is true - that means that if blockchain.info will be down then FireLotto will be down to. As simply as that. Hey, I am still waiting for technical answers on my questions: - how exactly information from blockchain.info is delivered to Ethereum's smart contracts? - does relying on external service (like blockchain.info) introduce a weak point of this product?
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March 05, 2018, 10:31:53 AM |
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Step 1: During a drawing, the 1st is taken after the time current publicly hash code of a bitcoin block is taken from blockchain.info. For example: 000000000000000000229a9deacb0ed81b54afb92581e9b5b2e25dbd3a8069a2
Because there is no way that smart contract will make an external call (for example: to blockchain.info) that means that other, centralized server(s) are required. Are you still saying that "FireLotto is 100% decentralized platform piwered by smart contracts only"? Also - if that is true - that means that if blockchain.info will be down then FireLotto will be down to. As simply as that. Hey, I am still waiting for technical answers on my questions: - how exactly information from blockchain.info is delivered to Ethereum's smart contracts? - does relying on external service (like blockchain.info) introduce a weak point of this product? You know how to read, I brought you this algorithm. You do not have to encrypt it, everyone already knows that you write nonsense accounts with nonsense
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March 05, 2018, 11:18:28 AM |
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Step 1: During a drawing, the 1st is taken after the time current publicly hash code of a bitcoin block is taken from blockchain.info. For example: 000000000000000000229a9deacb0ed81b54afb92581e9b5b2e25dbd3a8069a2
Because there is no way that smart contract will make an external call (for example: to blockchain.info) that means that other, centralized server(s) are required. Are you still saying that "FireLotto is 100% decentralized platform piwered by smart contracts only"? Also - if that is true - that means that if blockchain.info will be down then FireLotto will be down to. As simply as that. Hey, I am still waiting for technical answers on my questions: - how exactly information from blockchain.info is delivered to Ethereum's smart contracts? - does relying on external service (like blockchain.info) introduce a weak point of this product? You know how to read, I brought you this algorithm. You do not have to encrypt it, everyone already knows that you write nonsense accounts with nonsense Dear, thank you for your answer. Yes, you described algorithm but this is not exactly what I am asking. I am asking how technically information form blockchain.info is acquired (and then delivered to smart contract). I am asking how flow of information is organised to be able to confirm that product is 100% decentralized (as you or others stated that many times).
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March 05, 2018, 12:11:39 PM |
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[/quote]
You know how to read, I brought you this algorithm. You do not have to encrypt it, everyone already knows that you write nonsense accounts with nonsense [/quote] Dear, thank you for your answer. Yes, you described algorithm but this is not exactly what I am asking.
I am asking how technically information form blockchain.info is acquired (and then delivered to smart contract). I am asking how flow of information is organised to be able to confirm that product is 100% decentralized (as you or others stated that many times). [/quote] You can check bitcoin hash for each draw in lottery history on firelotto.com Also you can find answers on GitHub.
P.S. You asked same questions many times. And each time get correct answers.
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March 05, 2018, 12:13:54 PM |
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So it is an international blockchain LOTTERY. How can winner get his prize? And what about taxes?
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March 05, 2018, 12:19:43 PM |
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I suppose that this so called "extortion letter" was written by scammers themselves to avoid the questions about their very suspicious activities. This project screams "SCAM" Just check the old posts from forum members about this "project" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2579275.msg27943143#msg27943143 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2579275.msg27854143#msg27854143 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2579275.msg27869759#msg27869759 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2579275.msg27811615#msg27811615 And here is the post of ket_gav where he/she accuses another people of extorting the money https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2579275.msg27862506#msg27862506 I' am reposting here the post of the forum member about Roman Demidov (CEO of Fire Lotto) Please read it carefully. (Roman is telling incredible and fake stories about extortionists) This is the confirmation that "extortion letter" was written by scammers themselves. This scammers are not smart. They are idiots! Roman, do not disgrace yourself with such screenshots of "correspondence". What is icolab? What connects me to this project?
There are facts, let's not hide them, so people can all draw the right conclusions: 1. There is ICOLAB.ME, to which you are directly related. 2. There are still enough proofs in Google that this is your company: https://i.imgur.com/RXDW20E.png. Also you were the speaker at the conference in December, as co-founder of ICOLAB company http://cryptofest.online3. On the site of ICOLAB.ME you have placed the names of people who have never been your partners. You did this to mislead investors, create yourself an image of an expert 4. As soon as Jake Brukhman posted the tweet https://twitter.com/jbrukh/status/950443915999629314, you deleted everywhere where possible mention of icolab.me. I posted in the russian thread enough screenshots. But can duplicate here: https://imgur.com/gcWGS7Ehttps://imgur.com/bkG4e3Mhttps://imgur.com/Cl89Oj45. "The site was not advertised anywhere". Really? A couple of days ago the site was listed on the main page of your scam ICO Now the most interesting. You wrote: The guys said that they were removed from there, but they were removed very long
So you claim that Adam Draper and Jake Brukhman knew that their names were posted on the icolab.me website? Right? And they told you what "they were removed from there". Well, let's fix this statement here and ask them if it's true. It will be fair. Roman, all your attempts to justify yourself do not work. You just look ridiculous - fake screenshots, incredible stories about extortionists and mysterious partners who made the site. But the fact is that you used the names of famous people to promote your project without their consent, and now you try to cover up it all. Great research mate. Thanks a lot. You deserve a merit for that. This scammers are exposed now.
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