[ANN][ICO] Fire Lotto - International blockchain LOTTERY

[Tommy Cash]

Zurich, FireLotto will have a presentation soon:

http://conferences.unicom.co.uk/blockchain-zurich-2018/

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[ket_gav]

At the conference in Zurich everyone was asked the same question - why do you need a blockchain? And many projects can not give a clear explanation. 😂😂😂 Fire Lotto the only project at the conference, which has already a working platform firelotto.com Thank you to the team!

[Tommy Cash]

Fire Lotto presentation had big success in Zurich.
Instead of 10 min it was 25 with questions and answers and alot of applauses at the end. Also Fire Lotto received a proposal from one good exchange...

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[kermitas]

Fire Lotto presentation had big success in Zurich.
Instead of 10 min it was 25 with questions and answers and alot of applauses at the end. Also Fire Lotto received a proposal from one good exchange...

That is not a problem to burn investor's money to appear at many conferences and to do PR/marketing.

The more beautiful target would be to create whole project that will generate income (be self sustainable) and use that funds for marketing while investor's founds could be used only to scale-up (and generate passive income/dividends for investors).

Again I repeat: burn ICO's money is pretty easy task and that is how most of current businesses do.

[FLOTS(C)AM]

When you're able to update the website, for example to update the software or add other games, it means you have a central point of control. It means you're NOT FULLY DECENTRALISED!

You're also keeping the source code of the website secret. This means you're NOT FULLY TRANSPARENT!

[trucker_bill]

I did not understand, but why did it all start? All so loudly declare that the project is a scam. But where they got this information?

             ATTENTION !!!  SCAMMERS!!! HERE ARE UNDENIABLE PROOFS THAT FIRE LOTTO IS ORCHESTRATED BY SCAMMERS!!!

That dudes were involved in countless scams!

Scam number 1: : Cash Poker Pro ICO- decentralized poker room that scammed many investors and is labeled as a obvious SCAM! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2056999.msg20517116#msg20517116 Same people from that scam are now involved in Fire Lotto scam. Here is the reference:   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2579275.msg31509943#msg31509943 https://cashpokerpro.io/

Scam number 2 : ICOLAB.ME (That website is now deleted by scammers, but thanks to Google we have the proofs.) In that scam, they stole some pictures from twitter and added them as a team members on the website. Also they stole the identity of famous people in crypto world and added them as advisers to their ICO website, but were busted lately.  Here are the references:
 https://twitter.com/jbrukh/status/950443915999629314   https://twitter.com/BraytonKey  ICOLAB.ME was  mentioned it the profile of Roman Demidov (CEO of Fire Lotto) but the information was deleted lately. Here are the references. https://i.imgur.com/HUTgg7v.jpg   https://i.imgur.com/RlnVRNO.png

Scam number 3: Fire Lotto Here scammers changed their official address on ICO website two times within one week. Here is the reference: https://i.imgur.com/OmldyDd.png The first address 8 Lefkou Anastasiadi, 2012 Strovolos, Nicosia, Cyprus belongs to ORISTANE MANAGEMENT LTD and was stolen by Fire Lotto scammers. Here is the reference:
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/Mv4wPTVKPuKn2PC1azo5KNAslDM/appointments  The second address 140 UPPER BUKIT TIMAH ROAD #04-06, BEAUTY WORLD PLAZA, SINGAPORE (588176)  is also fake and actually is the address of a mall for retail shops, that are selling the beauty products for womens!   http://www.property2day.com/beauty-world-plaza/

C'mon dude! It is getting boring! Start doing something positive with your time! I invested and we all will see what is going to be the fact soon! Your definite spamming is worse than their potential scamming. 

[Tommy Cash]

The prize fund of the lottery 6 out of 45 is replenished by 100 ETH

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[kermitas]

When you're able to update the website, for example to update the software or add other games, it means you have a central point of control. It means you're NOT FULLY DECENTRALISED!

You're also keeping the source code of the website secret. This means you're NOT FULLY TRANSPARENT!

I was trying to touch those two subjects many times...

For example, when I was asking really hard questions on NexusEarth ($NXS) Telegram group chat instead of being kicked out I got proposition to join the team and use there my passion and knowledge. What a difference when comparing to FireLotto!

[Tommy Cash]

When you're able to update the website, for example to update the software or add other games, it means you have a central point of control. It means you're NOT FULLY DECENTRALISED!

You're also keeping the source code of the website secret. This means you're NOT FULLY TRANSPARENT!

Sorry of course, and where is the site and what we add to it. We often make changes and notify investors about this. What we can not change is the code written in the smart contract and the algorithm of the RNG

[FLOTS(C)AM]

I can understand how some of the admins there (active here too) sometimes lose their patience with people who keep asking the same questions over and over. But just create a really good, complete FAQ on your website and refer people there.

And make sure you adequately answer every single question that potential investors have.

I still think this project could be very good but I'm afraid it's going to slowly fizzle out and die after the ico ends.

[kermitas]

I can understand how some of the admins there (active here too) sometimes lose their patience with people who keep asking the same questions over and over. But just create a really good, complete FAQ on your website and refer people there.

Exactly, that is a must and a norm - to know how to collect and maintain knowledge. In that case the FAQ section.

It looks like that FireLotto didn't grow to that point. It is not good as it looks like they do grow to collect funds from investors.

[flaggin]

I did not understand, but why did it all start? All so loudly declare that the project is a scam. But where they got this information?

             ATTENTION !!!  SCAMMERS!!! HERE ARE UNDENIABLE PROOFS THAT FIRE LOTTO IS ORCHESTRATED BY SCAMMERS!!!

That dudes were involved in countless scams!

Scam number 1: : Cash Poker Pro ICO- decentralized poker room that scammed many investors and is labeled as a obvious SCAM! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2056999.msg20517116#msg20517116 Same people from that scam are now involved in Fire Lotto scam. Here is the reference:   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2579275.msg31509943#msg31509943 https://cashpokerpro.io/

Scam number 2 : ICOLAB.ME (That website is now deleted by scammers, but thanks to Google we have the proofs.) In that scam, they stole some pictures from twitter and added them as a team members on the website. Also they stole the identity of famous people in crypto world and added them as advisers to their ICO website, but were busted lately.  Here are the references:
 https://twitter.com/jbrukh/status/950443915999629314   https://twitter.com/BraytonKey  ICOLAB.ME was  mentioned it the profile of Roman Demidov (CEO of Fire Lotto) but the information was deleted lately. Here are the references. https://i.imgur.com/HUTgg7v.jpg   https://i.imgur.com/RlnVRNO.png

Scam number 3: Fire Lotto Here scammers changed their official address on ICO website two times within one week. Here is the reference: https://i.imgur.com/OmldyDd.png The first address 8 Lefkou Anastasiadi, 2012 Strovolos, Nicosia, Cyprus belongs to ORISTANE MANAGEMENT LTD and was stolen by Fire Lotto scammers. Here is the reference:
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/Mv4wPTVKPuKn2PC1azo5KNAslDM/appointments  The second address 140 UPPER BUKIT TIMAH ROAD #04-06, BEAUTY WORLD PLAZA, SINGAPORE (588176)  is also fake and actually is the address of a mall for retail shops, that are selling the beauty products for womens!   http://www.property2day.com/beauty-world-plaza/

C'mon dude! It is getting boring! Start doing something positive with your time! I invested and we all will see what is going to be the fact soon! Your definite spamming is worse than their potential scamming. 

You are absolutely right. We will all soon see what will be the fact indeed. Being able to separate real facts from spam can be challenging for some people, especially newbies (such as myself) when it comes to understanding blockchains, ICO, and all the related language that comes with it. I paid by way of investing in this project and have every right to use what information I learn from it. I feel it is important to keep the facts at the front of the thread; not buried deep within the thread where it is easily overlooked.
I am sure the project will either succeed or fail regardless of the comments posted here. Unlike the Telegram group which kicks a person off its site for asking questions, this thread is for the purpose of information for all to read. It should be important to note for future potential investors that sometimes 'no answers' to questions is the best answer when having to make a decision about their money spent.
If you find it boring, might I suggest you take up a hobby elsewhere. Good luck with your investment. I hope it turns out for the best, for us both.

[pernikar]

I think a lot of the communication issues could be blamed on the language barrier. I've been following the project since they started this thread and from what I've seen, the team members posting here are not very proficient in English, meaning no disrespect. I think hiring some PR staff, highly skilled in both Russian and English languages, might be beneficial. But then again, I can't speak for the quality of their Russian ANN thread as I don't know any Russian myself, so maybe it's the same there and language is not the issue.

Nevertheless, as an early investor, all I can do is have faith in the project and hope for the best. I've seen many ICOs and FireLotto seems to be one of the better ones, it could be worse   .

[ket_gav]

New languages ​​were added to the lottery at firelotto.com: German, French, Japanese, Ukrainian
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[pacamobradillo]

I wanted to know how do you ensure that the oracle that reads the btc block hash is trustworthy
I understand you can check that manually
but afterwards
It might be too late

[Sucess]

they can check bitcoin hash for each draw in draw archive and winnings numbers
Isn’t too late? The smart contract would have delivered the earnings already

[yassinebenouhoud]

I didn’t understand, i was saying that the manual check of the hash by a human is going to happen after the smart contract executes the function deciding the winner and it might be too late

[tientien333]

If the oracle sends a tampered hash, the smart contract would send the money to the wrong person
You can only check if the hash was legitimate after that

[Tommy Cash]

The Fire Lotto team will not pay you for blackmail, threats and extortion !!
Dear community, the team of intruders refers to you projects as their pride in correspondence, extorting funds from the Fire Lotto.
Access and support the project:
https://golos.io/ru--skam/@dancorus/komanda-skammerov-atakuet-proekt-fire-lotto

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[mosprognoz]

Let me bring some facts together for everybody.  As you can see from my profile, I was correctly calling out ICO scams to warn members, especially deeponion, bitconnect , ethconnect, lendconnect, regalcoin, davorcoin, worldcore and many others. I was doing that a long time before they exitscamed and were exposed as a obvious scams.  (Check my posts from the very beginning) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094569;sa=showPosts All that scams stole hundreds of millions dollars of investors money (Just google that names and add the word scam to them) Now lets move to this scammy project. Is Fire Lotto a scam? The answer is YES! Why?  CEO of Fire Lotto Roman Demidov was involved in countless scams. 1 Cashpokerpro (Failed and disappeared with investors money) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2056999.msg20517116#msg20517116 Same people from that scam are now involved in Fire Lotto scam. Here is the reference:   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2579275.msg31509943#msg31509943 https://cashpokerpro.io/ 2 ICOLAB.ME (Stole the identities of Jake Brukhmanand and Adam Draper to advertise them as advisers of that scam ICO. Scammers deleted the website) https://twitter.com/jbrukh/status/950443915999629314 https://twitter.com/BraytonKey ICOLAB.ME was mentioned it the profile of Roman Demidov (CEO of Fire Lotto) but the information was deleted lately. Here are the references. https://i.imgur.com/HUTgg7v.jpg   https://i.imgur.com/RlnVRNO.png https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2579275.msg27943143#msg27943143  3. Fire Lotto (2 different fake addresses on website within one week, false statement about gambling license, false statements about SEC) Here scammers changed their official address on ICO website two times within one week. Here is the reference: https://i.imgur.com/OmldyDd.png The first address 8 Lefkou Anastasiadi, 2012 Strovolos, Nicosia, Cyprus belongs to ORISTANE MANAGEMENT LTD and was stolen by Fire Lotto scammers. Here is the reference: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/Mv4wPTVKPuKn2PC1azo5KNAslDM/appointments  The second address 140 UPPER BUKIT TIMAH ROAD #04-06, BEAUTY WORLD PLAZA, SINGAPORE (588176)  is also fake and actually is the address of a mall for retail shops, that are selling the beauty products for womens!   http://www.property2day.com/beauty-world-plaza/ And the most important thing. After being exposed Fire Lotto scammers are not answering any questions of investors and community members. There is only one answer to all question and you can read it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2579275.msg31643586#msg31643586  Fake extortion letters (Probably written by scammers themselves to mislead the community.  There is no real community for this fake project (99% of telegram group members are bought bots) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2579275.msg27811615#msg27811615 Fake and false statements about registration with SEC https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2579275.msg31164035#msg31164035 They will ban anyone who will ask wrong question in telegram. Thanks god they forget to make this thread self moderated and it is impossible to delete the others posts. If anybody thinks that all that facts with links and undeniable proofs are just a spam then go ahead and invest some money into this project. I can only wish you a good luck.