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The way I would structure the power supplies is have one supply all the PCIe external power connectors on the GPUs and the other supply all the mobo connectors. As long as you turn on the GPU PSU first and turn it off last (or just leave it one - the cards draw hardly any power while off) you won't have any problems. Trying to supply half the mobo and GPUs with 1 PSU and the other half with a 2nd sounds nightmarish.
It's really not hard at all.. I've been doing it for years.
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Phil - if you get a chance I would love to see the internals of the thermaltake box.
How cool has it been running in comparison to the other rigs in the room?
Did you mean me? Right now mine is open, so temps are fine. No I was asking about the Thermaltake 13 GPU box he got from whatever the company was to try out. I am on a NDA for internal shots
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Phil what is the card sales status?
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Yeah, this is really a crazy situation. Again, both AMD & Nvidia's demand forecasters severely screwed up
Not a fair or accurate statement. There was NO WAY they could have predicted a SECOND massive price jump on almost all cryptocoins in the same year would lead to a SECOND huge wave of demand. The situation is not helped by CAPACITY LIMITATIONS at every 14/16 nm production line, to the point ALL of them have been running flat-out since they got up and running at ALL. Nvidia in particular had no reason to expect as massive a demand spike as they got - traditionally AMD gets the bulk of mining sales, but THIS TIME AROUND it was Nvidia that got hammered FIRST.
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Yeah, this is really a crazy situation. Again, both AMD & Nvidia's demand forecasters severely screwed up
Not a fair or accurate statement. There was NO WAY they could have predicted a SECOND massive price jump on almost all cryptocoins in the same year would lead to a SECOND huge wave of demand. The situation is not helped by CAPACITY LIMITATIONS at every 14/16 nm production line, to the point ALL of them have been running flat-out since they got up and running at ALL. Nvidia in particular had no reason to expect as massive a demand spike as they got - traditionally AMD gets the bulk of mining sales, but THIS TIME AROUND it was Nvidia that got hammered FIRST. I see your points, but I think these companies are mostly clueless regarding crypto. Corporations are slow to adapt, and I think they haven't acquired the expertise to navigate this market. I don't see how Nvidia got hammered first btw, AMD was completely out of stock before Nvidia.
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January 21, 2018, 08:14:58 PM |
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Yeah, this is really a crazy situation. Again, both AMD & Nvidia's demand forecasters severely screwed up
Not a fair or accurate statement. There was NO WAY they could have predicted a SECOND massive price jump on almost all cryptocoins in the same year would lead to a SECOND huge wave of demand. The situation is not helped by CAPACITY LIMITATIONS at every 14/16 nm production line, to the point ALL of them have been running flat-out since they got up and running at ALL. Nvidia in particular had no reason to expect as massive a demand spike as they got - traditionally AMD gets the bulk of mining sales, but THIS TIME AROUND it was Nvidia that got hammered FIRST. Hey I am good with it. Selling 2 month old cards with a reasonable markup insures a profit for me.
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January 21, 2018, 11:28:30 PM |
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What are your opinions about 1080ti founders edition? I can choose from Gainward, Asus and Gigabyte.
Also, I could get a close price for palit 1070ti or evga 1080 watercooled? Which one would you choose to build a rig from above (1080ti founder, 1080 watercooled or 1070ti)?? I will do it with risers.
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What are your opinions about 1080ti founders edition? I can choose from Gainward, Asus and Gigabyte.
Also, I could get a close price for palit 1070ti or evga 1080 watercooled? Which one would you choose to build a rig from above (1080ti founder, 1080 watercooled or 1070ti)?? I will do it with risers.
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price baby price. 1080ti founders for ? 1080 evga hybrid 1070ti palit price. just do not get this style water cooled https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-6299-KRthis hybrid one below is easy to work with https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-6188-KRif under 600 it is good deal
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Yeah, this is really a crazy situation. Again, both AMD & Nvidia's demand forecasters severely screwed up
Not a fair or accurate statement. There was NO WAY they could have predicted a SECOND massive price jump on almost all cryptocoins in the same year would lead to a SECOND huge wave of demand. The situation is not helped by CAPACITY LIMITATIONS at every 14/16 nm production line, to the point ALL of them have been running flat-out since they got up and running at ALL. Nvidia in particular had no reason to expect as massive a demand spike as they got - traditionally AMD gets the bulk of mining sales, but THIS TIME AROUND it was Nvidia that got hammered FIRST. I see your points, but I think these companies are mostly clueless regarding crypto. Corporations are slow to adapt, and I think they haven't acquired the expertise to navigate this market. I don't see how Nvidia got hammered first btw, AMD was completely out of stock before Nvidia. Not THIS time around. Nvidia was pretty much out RIGHT after Christmas other than "huge markup gougers" on anything higher than the 3GB 1060, AMD still had quite a bit of stock left at "pre-Christmas norm" pricing for over a week past that point before THEY got into the same position on RX 570/580 cards (Vega has been OUT for a lot longer, likely due to continuing issues limiting production on HBM 2 memory). I don't understand it myself, unless NVidia had a HECK of a Christmas season while AMD's was only so-so, or Nvidia is already shifting production in the initial ramp-up to the Volta consumer cards that I anticipate being announced in late March (yes, there can and USUALLY IS that much lead time on getting chips out of a foundry, getting them distributed to manufacturers, and getting the cards themselves built and some "launch stock" built up).
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Yeah, this is really a crazy situation. Again, both AMD & Nvidia's demand forecasters severely screwed up
Not a fair or accurate statement. There was NO WAY they could have predicted a SECOND massive price jump on almost all cryptocoins in the same year would lead to a SECOND huge wave of demand. The situation is not helped by CAPACITY LIMITATIONS at every 14/16 nm production line, to the point ALL of them have been running flat-out since they got up and running at ALL. Nvidia in particular had no reason to expect as massive a demand spike as they got - traditionally AMD gets the bulk of mining sales, but THIS TIME AROUND it was Nvidia that got hammered FIRST. I see your points, but I think these companies are mostly clueless regarding crypto. Corporations are slow to adapt, and I think they haven't acquired the expertise to navigate this market. I don't see how Nvidia got hammered first btw, AMD was completely out of stock before Nvidia. Not THIS time around. Nvidia was pretty much out RIGHT after Christmas other than "huge markup gougers" on anything higher than the 3GB 1060, AMD still had quite a bit of stock left at "pre-Christmas norm" pricing for over a week past that point before THEY got into the same position on RX 570/580 cards (Vega has been OUT for a lot longer, likely due to continuing issues limiting production on HBM 2 memory). I don't understand it myself, unless NVidia had a HECK of a Christmas season while AMD's was only so-so, or Nvidia is already shifting production in the initial ramp-up to the Volta consumer cards that I anticipate being announced in late March (yes, there can and USUALLY IS that much lead time on getting chips out of a foundry, getting them distributed to manufacturers, and getting the cards themselves built and some "launch stock" built up). I agree that in my opinion, they are focusing on the Volta and not producing enough of the current gen.
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Yeah, this is really a crazy situation. Again, both AMD & Nvidia's demand forecasters severely screwed up
Not a fair or accurate statement. There was NO WAY they could have predicted a SECOND massive price jump on almost all cryptocoins in the same year would lead to a SECOND huge wave of demand. The situation is not helped by CAPACITY LIMITATIONS at every 14/16 nm production line, to the point ALL of them have been running flat-out since they got up and running at ALL. Nvidia in particular had no reason to expect as massive a demand spike as they got - traditionally AMD gets the bulk of mining sales, but THIS TIME AROUND it was Nvidia that got hammered FIRST. I see your points, but I think these companies are mostly clueless regarding crypto. Corporations are slow to adapt, and I think they haven't acquired the expertise to navigate this market. I don't see how Nvidia got hammered first btw, AMD was completely out of stock before Nvidia. Not THIS time around. Nvidia was pretty much out RIGHT after Christmas other than "huge markup gougers" on anything higher than the 3GB 1060, AMD still had quite a bit of stock left at "pre-Christmas norm" pricing for over a week past that point before THEY got into the same position on RX 570/580 cards (Vega has been OUT for a lot longer, likely due to continuing issues limiting production on HBM 2 memory). I don't understand it myself, unless NVidia had a HECK of a Christmas season while AMD's was only so-so, or Nvidia is already shifting production in the initial ramp-up to the Volta consumer cards that I anticipate being announced in late March (yes, there can and USUALLY IS that much lead time on getting chips out of a foundry, getting them distributed to manufacturers, and getting the cards themselves built and some "launch stock" built up). I agree that in my opinion, they are focusing on the Volta and not producing enough of the current gen. Looks like that. Regarding out of stock, I couldn't find any AMD this year but had no problem buying 6 x 1070ti, so I guess my experience was different.
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Yeah, this is really a crazy situation. Again, both AMD & Nvidia's demand forecasters severely screwed up
Not a fair or accurate statement. There was NO WAY they could have predicted a SECOND massive price jump on almost all cryptocoins in the same year would lead to a SECOND huge wave of demand. The situation is not helped by CAPACITY LIMITATIONS at every 14/16 nm production line, to the point ALL of them have been running flat-out since they got up and running at ALL. Nvidia in particular had no reason to expect as massive a demand spike as they got - traditionally AMD gets the bulk of mining sales, but THIS TIME AROUND it was Nvidia that got hammered FIRST. I see your points, but I think these companies are mostly clueless regarding crypto. Corporations are slow to adapt, and I think they haven't acquired the expertise to navigate this market. I don't see how Nvidia got hammered first btw, AMD was completely out of stock before Nvidia. Not THIS time around. Nvidia was pretty much out RIGHT after Christmas other than "huge markup gougers" on anything higher than the 3GB 1060, AMD still had quite a bit of stock left at "pre-Christmas norm" pricing for over a week past that point before THEY got into the same position on RX 570/580 cards (Vega has been OUT for a lot longer, likely due to continuing issues limiting production on HBM 2 memory). I don't understand it myself, unless NVidia had a HECK of a Christmas season while AMD's was only so-so, or Nvidia is already shifting production in the initial ramp-up to the Volta consumer cards that I anticipate being announced in late March (yes, there can and USUALLY IS that much lead time on getting chips out of a foundry, getting them distributed to manufacturers, and getting the cards themselves built and some "launch stock" built up). I agree that in my opinion, they are focusing on the Volta and not producing enough of the current gen. Looks like that. Regarding out of stock, I couldn't find any AMD this year but had no problem buying 6 x 1070ti, so I guess my experience was different. You must not be American. Trump doesn't like foreigners. PS> Fuck him and his supporters
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Yeah, this is really a crazy situation. Again, both AMD & Nvidia's demand forecasters severely screwed up
Not a fair or accurate statement. There was NO WAY they could have predicted a SECOND massive price jump on almost all cryptocoins in the same year would lead to a SECOND huge wave of demand. The situation is not helped by CAPACITY LIMITATIONS at every 14/16 nm production line, to the point ALL of them have been running flat-out since they got up and running at ALL. Nvidia in particular had no reason to expect as massive a demand spike as they got - traditionally AMD gets the bulk of mining sales, but THIS TIME AROUND it was Nvidia that got hammered FIRST. I see your points, but I think these companies are mostly clueless regarding crypto. Corporations are slow to adapt, and I think they haven't acquired the expertise to navigate this market. I don't see how Nvidia got hammered first btw, AMD was completely out of stock before Nvidia. Not THIS time around. Nvidia was pretty much out RIGHT after Christmas other than "huge markup gougers" on anything higher than the 3GB 1060, AMD still had quite a bit of stock left at "pre-Christmas norm" pricing for over a week past that point before THEY got into the same position on RX 570/580 cards (Vega has been OUT for a lot longer, likely due to continuing issues limiting production on HBM 2 memory). I don't understand it myself, unless NVidia had a HECK of a Christmas season while AMD's was only so-so, or Nvidia is already shifting production in the initial ramp-up to the Volta consumer cards that I anticipate being announced in late March (yes, there can and USUALLY IS that much lead time on getting chips out of a foundry, getting them distributed to manufacturers, and getting the cards themselves built and some "launch stock" built up). I agree that in my opinion, they are focusing on the Volta and not producing enough of the current gen. Looks like that. Regarding out of stock, I couldn't find any AMD this year but had no problem buying 6 x 1070ti, so I guess my experience was different. You must not be American. Trump doesn't like foreigners. PS> Fuck him and his supporters I'm indeed not American, yet, my citizenship paperwork is about complete. My English will always suck though I bought these 1070ti on Newegg, they were available until the 2nd or 3rd of Jan.
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Yeah, this is really a crazy situation. Again, both AMD & Nvidia's demand forecasters severely screwed up
Not a fair or accurate statement. There was NO WAY they could have predicted a SECOND massive price jump on almost all cryptocoins in the same year would lead to a SECOND huge wave of demand. The situation is not helped by CAPACITY LIMITATIONS at every 14/16 nm production line, to the point ALL of them have been running flat-out since they got up and running at ALL. Nvidia in particular had no reason to expect as massive a demand spike as they got - traditionally AMD gets the bulk of mining sales, but THIS TIME AROUND it was Nvidia that got hammered FIRST. I see your points, but I think these companies are mostly clueless regarding crypto. Corporations are slow to adapt, and I think they haven't acquired the expertise to navigate this market. I don't see how Nvidia got hammered first btw, AMD was completely out of stock before Nvidia. Not THIS time around. Nvidia was pretty much out RIGHT after Christmas other than "huge markup gougers" on anything higher than the 3GB 1060, AMD still had quite a bit of stock left at "pre-Christmas norm" pricing for over a week past that point before THEY got into the same position on RX 570/580 cards (Vega has been OUT for a lot longer, likely due to continuing issues limiting production on HBM 2 memory). I don't understand it myself, unless NVidia had a HECK of a Christmas season while AMD's was only so-so, or Nvidia is already shifting production in the initial ramp-up to the Volta consumer cards that I anticipate being announced in late March (yes, there can and USUALLY IS that much lead time on getting chips out of a foundry, getting them distributed to manufacturers, and getting the cards themselves built and some "launch stock" built up). I agree that in my opinion, they are focusing on the Volta and not producing enough of the current gen. Looks like that. Regarding out of stock, I couldn't find any AMD this year but had no problem buying 6 x 1070ti, so I guess my experience was different. You must not be American. Trump doesn't like foreigners. PS> Fuck him and his supporters I'm indeed not American, yet, my citizenship paperwork is about complete. My English will always suck though I bought these 1070ti on Newegg, they were available until the 2nd or 3rd of Jan. Ah come on man, 3 weeks ago doesn't count!
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Yeah, this is really a crazy situation. Again, both AMD & Nvidia's demand forecasters severely screwed up
Not a fair or accurate statement. There was NO WAY they could have predicted a SECOND massive price jump on almost all cryptocoins in the same year would lead to a SECOND huge wave of demand. The situation is not helped by CAPACITY LIMITATIONS at every 14/16 nm production line, to the point ALL of them have been running flat-out since they got up and running at ALL. Nvidia in particular had no reason to expect as massive a demand spike as they got - traditionally AMD gets the bulk of mining sales, but THIS TIME AROUND it was Nvidia that got hammered FIRST. I see your points, but I think these companies are mostly clueless regarding crypto. Corporations are slow to adapt, and I think they haven't acquired the expertise to navigate this market. I don't see how Nvidia got hammered first btw, AMD was completely out of stock before Nvidia. Not THIS time around. Nvidia was pretty much out RIGHT after Christmas other than "huge markup gougers" on anything higher than the 3GB 1060, AMD still had quite a bit of stock left at "pre-Christmas norm" pricing for over a week past that point before THEY got into the same position on RX 570/580 cards (Vega has been OUT for a lot longer, likely due to continuing issues limiting production on HBM 2 memory). I don't understand it myself, unless NVidia had a HECK of a Christmas season while AMD's was only so-so, or Nvidia is already shifting production in the initial ramp-up to the Volta consumer cards that I anticipate being announced in late March (yes, there can and USUALLY IS that much lead time on getting chips out of a foundry, getting them distributed to manufacturers, and getting the cards themselves built and some "launch stock" built up). I agree that in my opinion, they are focusing on the Volta and not producing enough of the current gen. Looks like that. Regarding out of stock, I couldn't find any AMD this year but had no problem buying 6 x 1070ti, so I guess my experience was different. You must not be American. Trump doesn't like foreigners. PS> Fuck him and his supporters I'm indeed not American, yet, my citizenship paperwork is about complete. My English will always suck though I bought these 1070ti on Newegg, they were available until the 2nd or 3rd of Jan. Ah come on man, 3 weeks ago doesn't count! Yeah, ancient history, my point is that I paid $490 for the 1070ti's (not a good price, but not crazy reseller either) when the AMDs were already hard to get for a reasonable price for me, not to talk about Vegas, I bough those on December and never saw them again in stock. I haven't seen absolutely anything to buy these days. I had 8 x 1060 ordered for $284 + tax ($312) on Amazon, but I cancelled them later, since I think it was too much to pay for 1060s. Now it's waiting time...
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What are your opinions about 1080ti founders edition? I can choose from Gainward, Asus and Gigabyte.
Also, I could get a close price for palit 1070ti or evga 1080 watercooled? Which one would you choose to build a rig from above (1080ti founder, 1080 watercooled or 1070ti)?? I will do it with risers.
Thanks
price baby price. - 1080ti founders for ? 1080 evga hybrid 1070ti palit price. just do not get this style water cooled https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-6299-KRthis hybrid one below is easy to work with https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-6188-KRif under 600 it is good deal I live in Europe, where prices are way over the prices you're getting in US. When you posted prices for 1080ti, months ago, our price in Europe was about 800-900euros.. which is a lot. 1080ti founders for - no longer available, found Palit Jetstream 1080ti for 1010euro 1080 evga hybrid - no longer available, only Asus 1080 Strix for 700euro 1070ti palit price - 730euro So.. it's 1235$ Palit 1080ti...
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What are your opinions about 1080ti founders edition? I can choose from Gainward, Asus and Gigabyte.
Also, I could get a close price for palit 1070ti or evga 1080 watercooled? Which one would you choose to build a rig from above (1080ti founder, 1080 watercooled or 1070ti)?? I will do it with risers.
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price baby price. - 1080ti founders for ? 1080 evga hybrid 1070ti palit price. just do not get this style water cooled https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-6299-KRthis hybrid one below is easy to work with https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-6188-KRif under 600 it is good deal I live in Europe, where prices are way over the prices you're getting in US. When you posted prices for 1080ti, months ago, our price in Europe was about 800-900euros.. which is a lot. 1080ti founders for - no longer available, found Palit Jetstream 1080ti for 1010euro 1080 evga hybrid - no longer available, only Asus 1080 Strix for 700euro 1070ti palit price - 730euro So.. it's 1235$ Palit 1080ti... I know there is 15-23% vat But 1235 usd a card is crazy or is it 1235 euros? I have been selling off all my 1070 tis after mining them for about 80 days
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It's 1235$, which was converted from 1000euros. You sold them good. If you could ship them to Romania,Europe, I'm sure I would get a better price at all, but I don't think is convenient for you
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Hi, sorry to disturb again, is available one live distro linux based, like smOS, with neoscrypt miner inside?
Cheers W_M
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