Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread!

[Steamtyme]

Lets talk new egg here , seen a few lower priced 580s finnaly , anyone have experince with multiple newegg accounts ?

do they look at the cc and shipping address or just the account if you have say two accounts ? , normally I dont mind buying one every few days

but with the currrent shortage i'd prefer to buy 2 or 3 and then be done with it for a while

Multiple accounts does not work. Whether it's the name or the shipping address I'm not sure but I tried that because they had some reasonably priced 570 8gb cards.

The bright side is they have been releasing them every 3 days so I grab one every time they go up.

This is newegg.ca but I imagine it's the same idea

[MagicSmoker]

My Zotac GTX 1050 Ti performed better overall than QuintLeo's. I just sold it, so no more testing is possible, but below are the results from each of the algos I tried, and in each case actual clocks reported by MSI AB are given. The core clock was never stable, so it's an "eyeball average," but mem clock usually was, and I didn't mess with power limit at all because power usage reporting is broken in the 1050 Ti, from what I understand.

Equihash - 190 Sols/s
~1835 core; 3800 mem; dstm 0.5.7

Ethash - 13.4 Mh/s
~1885 core*; 3800 mem; claymore dual 10.5 (* - at that time I had not yet learned that core clock doesn't matter with Ethash)

Power usage is broken in some driver versions, not in others - but setting power limit still seems to work.
The original Nvidia drivers version I was using (373.06 I think) seemed to handle reporting power ok, but the 384.98 version (my current default due to it being required for the 1070 ti) does not for the 1050 ti - I get "ERR" instead of a power used figure.

Hah, well that's one other way my 1050 Ti was better than yours: it reported only using 0W! Infinite hashing efficiency! Why on earth did I sell it?  

Your hashrate figures are a bit higher than I saw at any setting out of my EVGA model, but not a lot so.
I'm not sure if you were able to clock core or memory higher as all of my testing was under LINUX and can't compare my figures to your figures on those as I have not taken the time to check to see if nvidia-smi will show actual clock figures (I THINK it's got the option in there somewhere though).

Despite the tongue-in-cheek bit above, I want to emphasize that I totally agree that these are not even remotely worth considering at the current Newegg-not-reseller price of $230, and only somewhat worth considering at the original MSRP of $139. I sold mine for $170, and that was definitely the best use of all for this card!

[Marvell2]

Lets talk new egg here , seen a few lower priced 580s finnaly , anyone have experince with multiple newegg accounts ?

do they look at the cc and shipping address or just the account if you have say two accounts ? , normally I dont mind buying one every few days

but with the currrent shortage i'd prefer to buy 2 or 3 and then be done with it for a while

Multiple accounts does not work. Whether it's the name or the shipping address I'm not sure but I tried that because they had some reasonably priced 570 8gb cards.

The bright side is they have been releasing them every 3 days so I grab one every time they go up.

This is newegg.ca but I imagine it's the same idea

damn well thats nice to know

[philipma1957]

Lets talk new egg here , seen a few lower priced 580s finnaly , anyone have experince with multiple newegg accounts ?

do they look at the cc and shipping address or just the account if you have say two accounts ? , normally I dont mind buying one every few days

but with the currrent shortage i'd prefer to buy 2 or 3 and then be done with it for a while

Multiple accounts does not work. Whether it's the name or the shipping address I'm not sure but I tried that because they had some reasonably priced 570 8gb cards.

The bright side is they have been releasing them every 3 days so I grab one every time they go up.

This is newegg.ca but I imagine it's the same idea

damn well thats nice to know

Do you have a good neighbor brother sister mom dad at different address?  If not it is a no go.

[VyprBTC]

Lets talk new egg here , seen a few lower priced 580s finnaly , anyone have experince with multiple newegg accounts ?

do they look at the cc and shipping address or just the account if you have say two accounts ? , normally I dont mind buying one every few days

but with the currrent shortage i'd prefer to buy 2 or 3 and then be done with it for a while

Multiple accounts does not work. Whether it's the name or the shipping address I'm not sure but I tried that because they had some reasonably priced 570 8gb cards.

The bright side is they have been releasing them every 3 days so I grab one every time they go up.

This is newegg.ca but I imagine it's the same idea

Multi accounts do work. This is coming from someone with a few dozen new egg accounts.

[philipma1957]

Lets talk new egg here , seen a few lower priced 580s finnaly , anyone have experince with multiple newegg accounts ?

do they look at the cc and shipping address or just the account if you have say two accounts ? , normally I dont mind buying one every few days

but with the currrent shortage i'd prefer to buy 2 or 3 and then be done with it for a while

Multiple accounts does not work. Whether it's the name or the shipping address I'm not sure but I tried that because they had some reasonably priced 570 8gb cards.

The bright side is they have been releasing them every 3 days so I grab one every time they go up.

This is newegg.ca but I imagine it's the same idea

Multi accounts do work. This is coming from someone with a few dozen new egg accounts.

I have six and they may or may not work.

I ran an eBay buisness with multiple accounts

[TheYankeesWin!]

900 per 1080 ti is sustainable price if you power is cheap.

3.50 to 4.00 earnings for 1 card using 5kwatts of power.

this breakdown to

3.00-3.50  profit a day per card after power

300 days  = 900 to 1050 back.

cards have 1 year warranty or longer .

So at 900  the price is not terrible

prices will not drop to 700  until cards are earning

under 2 per day.  Simple math dictates it.

I was happy to buy the 2 gaming pc's at 2290.00 each after tax.

They came today  and are making 6.80 using 1.30 in power each  so 5.50 a day  would mean  paid off in 416 days.

I have a 1 year warranty  so I will be fine with them.

best of all I can return them for 45 days so my risk of a crash  does not exist for 44 days after today.

Who's return policy is 45 days? only one i know off hand is best buy's gold or whatever membership tier. Just curious and wanted to know

best buy elite
but I am with hp.com I got through a member store from my high school job at mc Donald's

these are omen gamers I get a 430 dollar discount  they list for 2606 - 430 = 2176 tax is 7%  = 2327 - 2% for eBay card = 2280    I timed the charge and have 45 days before the money is due.  and hp.com allows returns up to 30 not 45 days.  1 year full warranty.

so 2 were about 4560 they are earning  15 a day using 760 watts which is about 19 kwatts at 10 cents in the winter .  so first 30 days I will have earned 390 net

I am supposed to get 2 x 150 off from retail not  but I am not sure if that will work out.  I will need to fight for that.

worker 1 and 2


https://www.nicehash.com/miner/1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje

What  happened to the 300 in question?

[philipma1957]

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Who's  ...  

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I am supposed to get 2 x 150 off from retail not  but I am not sure if that will work out.  I will need to fight for that.

...

What  happened to the 300 in question?

https://www.retailmenot.com/  is good I am

Happy to say  they just sent my paypal 300 usd. 150 for each pc.

which  made a good deal  better.   2327 - 46 (cc rebate) = 2281 - 150 = 2131 net  for each one.  Not a bad price for this unit.

BTW  they raised the price about 100 usd since yesterday.

[Foofighter]

Hi Phil,

I can get the board, but only 20 pieces max. now - in stock in china ships after CNY.

+ Colorful  B250A-BTC PLUS V20 (8 full PCIE, Socket Intel 1151, NON ATX version)
++++https://colorfly.eu/iGame/C.B250A-BTC%20PLUS%20V20.html
++++ 186 USD/piece net --> Lead time: In stock China -->Available in EU est. 28.02- 02-03.2018

Details in my Mainboard groupbuy thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2909166.0

cheers
Tom

[Storx]

I Had a bunch of PM confused about my statement on how i broke even or made slightly more money with BTC dropping down to 6k from 20k...

So to try and explain it a little easier, i took a single day's payout from mining and listed how i managed it up tell now...

on 1/15/2018, i had a payout to my bittrex account from mining of 0.03503353BTC

So when i got around to it, i placed a sell order of 0.03503353 @ $12,302.50 at that time netting me roughly $430 USDT, since the talk was all bitcoin had his a bubble and all the indicators were showing heavy angles down in the price with little resistance, so i made the following orders...



Basically since the trend was heading downwards, i started taking smaller chunks, then jumped it up to 20% as the swings and drops started dropping much quicker...

In the end that day of minings climbed as high as 0.07624661btc before selling to USDT @ $6,622 for $504.91, i still have that amount locked in an open order on bittrex to buy back in @ $5,297, but its looking more and more like it will never occur, if the order hits 28 days old on bittrex it will close out and basically ill have $504.91 roughly of USDT available to me to do whatever i want with...

The biggest statements i got was the following:....

"You could have bought at 6k like i did and sold at 20k and make over 3x my money...."
~I get what you are saying, trading isnt as easy as that, noone can predict where a coin is going truly, so yes your statement is valid, but very very very few people actually had orders filled at 20k

"If your payout is at 10k and you sell at 9k, you are taking a lost, your just loosing money..."
~No, i am not loosing money, i am just taking earned income from mining and selling it at set amounts of ROI (3%,5%,10%,20%) depending on how strong the trend is looking, sometimes the orders end in USD and sometimes they end in BTC, but if an order occurs its because i placed a guaranteed amount of gain in my pocket, currently i am taking larger % on my daily payouts on the selling to USD, because the BTC is starting to trend back up and it would be unlogical to expect a 20% buy back

[Last of the V8s]

http://news.8btc.com/bitmain-to-release-ethereum-asic-miner-f3-with-72gb-ddr3-dram-in-q2

[vapourminer]

http://news.8btc.com/bitmain-to-release-ethereum-asic-miner-f3-with-72gb-ddr3-dram-in-q2

ouch. that would certainly put some hurt on gpu eth farms. most people were counting on eth not going away from pow for what, another year or so?

[MagicSmoker]

http://news.8btc.com/bitmain-to-release-ethereum-asic-miner-f3-with-72gb-ddr3-dram-in-q2

The burning question I have is: do I switch over my AMD cards to mining Ethash now (not ETH, per se) to get what I can before difficulty goes to the moon... ahem... or do I keep them on Cryptonight?

Otherwise, I suspect this will hasten the transition of ETH to PoS, eh?

[philipma1957]

http://news.8btc.com/bitmain-to-release-ethereum-asic-miner-f3-with-72gb-ddr3-dram-in-q2

ouch. that would certainly put some hurt on gpu eth farms. most people were counting on eth not going away from pow for what, another year or so?

So bitmain  has decided to call the  eth pos bluff.


this will shake up the world of cryptocoins big time.

of course  a fork  could fork  the bitmain asic.  I would like to see this play out.

https://coinmarketcap.com/


1   BitcoinBitcoin   $147,216,469,090   $8,731.50   $5,965,710,000   16,860,387 BTC   4.25%   sparkline

2   EthereumEthereum   $84,035,910,402   $861.29   $2,207,890,000   97,569,820 ETH   2.22%   sparkline


3   RippleRipple   $41,746,882,606   $1.07   $2,040,840,000   39,009,215,838 XRP *   1.54%   sparkline
4   Bitcoin CashBitcoin Cash   $21,689,473,342   $1,278.59   $435,947,000   16,963,588 BCH   1.48%   sparkline
5   CardanoCardano   $9,888,610,630   $0.381401   $237,036,000   25,927,070,538 ADA *   -0.31%   sparkline
6   LitecoinLitecoin   $8,774,048,485   $159.00   $485,075,000   55,184,083 LTC   4.49%   sparkline
7   NEONEO   $7,355,725,000   $113.17   $311,051,000   65,000,000 NEO *   5.46%   sparkline
8   StellarStellar   $7,274,198,021   $0.394645   $65,072,000   18,432,256,891 XLM *   2.68%   sparkline
9   EOSEOS   $5,876,066,704   $8.85   $320,219,000   664,222,024 EOS *   1.23%   sparkline
10   IOTAIOTA   $5,127,705,261   $1.84   $39,461,000   2,779,530,283 MIOTA *   3.89%   sparkline
11   NEMNEM   $4,924,160,999   $0.547129   $22,668,200   8,999,999,999 XEM *   0.01%   sparkline
12   DashDash   $4,869,335,769   $617.95   $78,861,400   7,879,847 DASH   1.83%   sparkline
13   MoneroMonero   $3,869,288,698   $246.25   $46,449,100   15,713,103 XMR   3.56%   sparkline
14   LiskLisk   $3,281,805,702   $27.81   $58,080,600   117,989,448 LSK *   6.14%   sparkline
15   TRONTRON   $3,021,142,594   $0.045950   $233,935,000   65,748,192,476 TRX *   3.34%   sparkline
16   Ethereum ClassicEthereum Classic   $2,793,305,592   $27.99   $464,483,000   99,803,687 ETC   11.85%   sparkline
17   Bitcoin GoldBitcoin Gold   $2,268,943,743   $134.90   $38,539,100   16,819,824 BTG   6.22%   sparkline
18   TetherTether   $2,223,016,237   $1.00   $2,160,790,000   2,217,140,814 USDT *   0.03%   sparkline
19   QtumQtum   $2,178,960,249   $29.49   $270,999,000   73,876,332 QTUM *   2.88%   sparkline
20   VeChainVeChain   $2,028,474,410   $4.31   $56,490,800   470,791,178 VEN *   5.41%   sparkline
21   ICONICON   $1,623,741,968   $4.26   $68,450,200   381,495,014 ICX *   8.90%   sparkline
22   U.CASHU.CASH   $1,534,930,010   $0.177859   $3,792,330   8,630,038,458 UCASH *   467.67%   sparkline
23   ZcashZcash   $1,521,788,499   $466.38   $80,297,200   3,262,994 ZEC   2.45%   sparkline
24   NanoNano   $1,292,022,049   $9.70   $35,501,800   133,248,289 XRB *   8.56%   sparkline
25   OmiseGOOmiseGO   $1,278,215,616   $12.53   $28,233,600   102,042,552 OMG *   3.22%   sparkline
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[citronick]

http://news.8btc.com/bitmain-to-release-ethereum-asic-miner-f3-with-72gb-ddr3-dram-in-q2

ouch. that would certainly put some hurt on gpu eth farms. most people were counting on eth not going away from pow for what, another year or so?

So bitmain  has decided to call the  eth pos bluff.


this will shake up the world of cryptocoins big time.

of course  a fork  could fork  the bitmain asic.  I would like to see this play out.

https://coinmarketcap.com/


1   BitcoinBitcoin   $147,216,469,090   $8,731.50   $5,965,710,000   16,860,387 BTC   4.25%   sparkline

2   EthereumEthereum   $84,035,910,402   $861.29   $2,207,890,000   97,569,820 ETH   2.22%   sparkline
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“Bitmain is about to release F3, the ethereum ASIC miner. It’s reported that every miner is mounted with 3 mainboards. On each mainboard there are 6 ASIC processors, each of which has 32 1GB DDR3 memory. Therefore, one unit of F3 miner contains 72 Gigabyte DRAM memory.”

The F3 only for ETH mining may not be the full story here... memory heavy algos may benefit too?

Can Bitmain do a multi-algo Baikal miner?

[philipma1957]

http://news.8btc.com/bitmain-to-release-ethereum-asic-miner-f3-with-72gb-ddr3-dram-in-q2

ouch. that would certainly put some hurt on gpu eth farms. most people were counting on eth not going away from pow for what, another year or so?

So bitmain  has decided to call the  eth pos bluff.


this will shake up the world of cryptocoins big time.

of course  a fork  could fork  the bitmain asic.  I would like to see this play out.

https://coinmarketcap.com/


1   BitcoinBitcoin   $147,216,469,090   $8,731.50   $5,965,710,000   16,860,387 BTC   4.25%   sparkline

2   EthereumEthereum   $84,035,910,402   $861.29   $2,207,890,000   97,569,820 ETH   2.22%   sparkline
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“Bitmain is about to release F3, the ethereum ASIC miner. It’s reported that every miner is mounted with 3 mainboards. On each mainboard there are 6 ASIC processors, each of which has 32 1GB DDR3 memory. Therefore, one unit of F3 miner contains 72 Gigabyte DRAM memory.”

The F3 only for ETH mining may not be the full story here... memory heavy algos may benefit too?

Can Bitmain do a multi-algo Baikal miner?

If this machine  can be a "gpu miner"  it would mean the end of gpu mining.  It would result in many issues and completely alter  the entire mining world.

The key is how many algos will it do?

And will we have 5 or 10

say

AA3
BB3
CC3
DD3
EE3
FF3
GG3
HH3
II3
JJ3

all of the above do 3 to 5 algos and    gpus are killed off.

MY thoughts would be

AMD
NVIDIA
INTEL
Every graphic card builder

and the desktop pc industry  would get hurt.

Bitmain  needs to step very carefully here.

As a miner  for a lot of years  I am happy  to be mostly in cash  at the moment.

[soothaa]

http://news.8btc.com/bitmain-to-release-ethereum-asic-miner-f3-with-72gb-ddr3-dram-in-q2

ouch. that would certainly put some hurt on gpu eth farms. most people were counting on eth not going away from pow for what, another year or so?

I've been hearing "ETH is going PoS!!!" cry since I started mining almost a year ago.. 

Even IF they do eventually go PoS.. they'll most likely go hybrid at first..

[MagicSmoker]

If this machine  can be a "gpu miner"  it would mean the end of gpu mining.  It would result in many issues and completely alter  the entire mining world.

The key is how many algos will it do?

And will we have 5 or 10

say

AA3
BB3
CC3
DD3
EE3
FF3
GG3
HH3
II3
JJ3

all of the above do 3 to 5 algos and    gpus are killed off.

MY thoughts would be

AMD
NVIDIA
INTEL
Every graphic card builder

and the desktop pc industry  would get hurt.

Bitmain  needs to step very carefully here.

As a miner  for a lot of years  I am happy  to be mostly in cash  at the moment.

That was my thought at first, then I realized that Bitmain would be competing against the likes of several companies with market caps in the $10B - $200B range and millions - literally millions - of already deployed GPUs. Oh, and you can bet those Bitmain miners will feature their legendary quality... 

So now I'm thinking this will be the proverbial tempest in a teapot.

[deadsix]

http://news.8btc.com/bitmain-to-release-ethereum-asic-miner-f3-with-72gb-ddr3-dram-in-q2

If it looks like bullshit, smells like bullshit, chances are ... its vaporware.

3 mainboards having 6 ASIC chips, each with 32 1GB DDR3 memory, thus totalling to 72 GB RAM

Someone is bad at basic math. 3 x 6 x 32 = 72? Lets assume they meant 3 mainboards with 32 1gb ram, even that comes to 3 x 32 =72? ...
Ofcource if each asic chip had 4 gb memory dedicated to it, that would make each mainboard 6 x 4 = 24 and then the total 72gb for 3 mainboards makes sense.
But DDR3? Really? What is this 2011? DDR3 would not have nearly enough bandwidth to mine at 1mh/d for the entire thing.

Ethereum ASIC chips will enter mass production stage in February 2018 by TSMC’s 28nm process. The F3 miner is expected to hit the market in Q2 or Q3 2018.

TSMC's ground breakin 28nm process node because we are in 2011 again ... ofcource this silicon will be as efficient as the 14nm GPU's in the market ...
Also miners expected to hit the market in Q2/Q3 ... when is the tape out? When do the engineering samples roll out? Or are they just going full blown production run?
And when is POS? Why would they make an ASIC for a mining algo that is going to remove mining altogether pretty soon?

[Watjila]

http://news.8btc.com/bitmain-to-release-ethereum-asic-miner-f3-with-72gb-ddr3-dram-in-q2

If it looks like bullshit, smells like bullshit, chances are ... its vaporware.

3 mainboards having 6 ASIC chips, each with 32 1GB DDR3 memory, thus totalling to 72 GB RAM

Someone is bad at basic math. 3 x 6 x 32 = 72? Lets assume they meant 3 mainboards with 32 1gb ram, even that comes to 3 x 32 =72? ...
Ofcource if each asic chip had 4 gb memory dedicated to it, that would make each mainboard 6 x 4 = 24 and then the total 72gb for 3 mainboards makes sense.
But DDR3? Really? What is this 2011? DDR3 would not have nearly enough bandwidth to mine at 1mh/d for the entire thing.

Ethereum ASIC chips will enter mass production stage in February 2018 by TSMC’s 28nm process. The F3 miner is expected to hit the market in Q2 or Q3 2018.

TSMC's ground breakin 28nm process node because we are in 2011 again ... ofcource this silicon will be as efficient as the 14nm GPU's in the market ...
Also miners expected to hit the market in Q2/Q3 ... when is the tape out? When do the engineering samples roll out? Or are they just going full blown production run?
And when is POS? Why would they make an ASIC for a mining algo that is going to remove mining altogether pretty soon?

3 x 6 x 32 = 576Gb = 72 GB as 8Gb = 1GB.