HashFast launches sales of the Baby Jet

[itod]

Are you sure?

I'm not sure of anything any more. The posts are from two different accounts, so you may be right.

It would be completely unfair to split MPP on "regular" and "additionally paid", and can't believe HF would do such a thing. They would never be believed after that.

[HashFast]

Hey Guys,

We realized that a bit of confusion was raised yesterday in regard to the MPP. So this is the official post concerning the MPP:

HashFast will be providing all MPP customers (Batches 1, 2, and 3) with additional ASICs in the form of complete mini-boards.

Cheers,

Team HashFast

[cypherdoc]

so just to clarify everyone's strategy.

if you bought a BJ, when the MPP hits, install 1 module into your current BJ.  then simply buy OEM parts: a 2U or 4U rack along with PSU, cooler, fans and plunk in the other 3 modules.  you'll need an old laptop, pc, or Raspi to install integrated HF driver/cgminer and you're ready to go.

a cheap 5x power increase.  extraordinary.

[HashFast_CL]

Hey Guys,

We realized that a bit of confusion was raised yesterday in regard to the MPP. So this is the official post concerning the MPP:

HashFast will be providing all MPP customers (Batches 1, 2, and 3) with additional ASICs in the form of complete mini-boards.

Cheers,

Team HashFast

[cypherdoc]

I have a Batch 1 baby jet and I bought the expansion board. Will I be able to use the MPP board with  them?

If not, why was this not though of before - you knew mpp + expansion would be needed on the baby jet?

Yes the MPP board can be used with them.

You bought the expansion board to get the extra hashing power now instead of in 3 months.

[gateway]

Ya cant wait to post some modular boards and just board stuff in general !

[iambaboon]

I have one BabyJet Order + one BJ upgrade order, prolly others in my situation as well. As fara as I understand, a BJ can only handle 2 chips.

Will I be able to run everything in case MPP hits ? I mean, is it enough to use some commercialy available cooling and PSU for the 'modular board' ?

If yes, what is Bitware's expansion board used for ?

[Visesrion]

I have one BabyJet Order + one BJ upgrade order, prolly others in my situation as well. As fara as I understand, a BJ can only handle 2 chips.

Will I be able to run everything in case MPP hits ? I mean, is it enough to use some commercialy available cooling and PSU for the 'modular board' ?

If yes, what is Bitware's expansion board used for ?

This have been fully answered in the other HF but anyway.

The babyjet can just handle 2 chips because it has no more physical space in the case, not because the controller used ( a raspberry) cannot handle more chips and boards.

Simply install the upgrade or what Bitware refers as expansion board into your babyjet. If the MPP comes in all you have to do is buy some standard parts like the psu, cooling, case and a raspberry or and old pc as a controller and you are ready to go 

[DyslexicZombei]

I have a Batch 1 baby jet and I bought the expansion board. Will I be able to use the MPP board with  them?

If not, why was this not though of before - you knew mpp + expansion would be needed on the baby jet?

Yes the MPP board can be used with them.

You bought the expansion board to get the extra hashing power now instead of in 3 months.

Well...not quite now.

I thought the promo upgrade GN module is supposed to ship about a month after delivery, no?

I'd love to find out they just said WTH & just inserted the upgrade chip if we already pre-paid for the upgrade before shipping out on Day 1.    

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Also, can I get an update from HashFast as to how long that Batch 1 Baby Jet upgrade promo will run? Are quantities getting low or is this deal almost expired?

The reason I ask is that I have a number of Group Buyers that either haven't checked in or paid for their portion of their allotted upgrade shares for 1 of the 2 Baby Jets we bought.

BTW: Great news about the MPP "ease of use." Thanks HashFast.
Although my miners cooperative is hardware diversified, I think you guys/gals still continue to lead the charge as far as best values and best miner protection.

[User705]

How can a company be a leader of anything without delivering something?

[gmaxwell]

We realized that a bit of confusion was raised yesterday in regard to the MPP. So this is the official post concerning the MPP:

Great.  Sorry for my confusion, I missed that it was referring to the blog post and instead though it was referring to the post shortly before on the forum.

[jjiimm_64]

3 cheers for the mini boards coming with the chips...AWSOME!

couple of questions.

Does the power for the miniboard come from 2 PCI connections?

Does the data communication happen thru a USB cable?

What type of heat sinks will fit?  will a gpu heat sink screw on it?

Did I miss a spec sheet somewhere?  Any information would be helpful.

[DeathAndTaxes]

I second jjimm_64 questions.  Some detailed mechanical specs would be nice.

Until HF responds definitely, the "heatsink" is a waterblock.  IIRC it is an off the shelf self cointained waterblock, pump radiator (3x120mm) assembly for cooling Intel CPU so any similar block with matching mounting hole layout should work.   The chip package is 45mm x 45mm so the key thing would simply be a waterblock with the same mounting holes.  

Data is through usb cable.  cypherdoc has stated the boards can be daisy chained   host ----- USB Cable ----->  Board A --- USB CABLE ---> Board B .... etc.  I don't believe HF has confirmed this but it seems likely.  Off the shelf USB hubs are also an option.

I agree it would be nice to have a spec sheet with various details  

[tacotime]

I sent in my NDA form into hashfast today, if it isn't under nda and they hire me I'll try and get you more info

[mgio]

I can't quite put my finger on why but my feeling is that HashFast is going to end up being the most professional and reliable of the bitcoin miner hardware companies. That is, if they make their deadline.

Of course, they don't have that tough of a competition.

[dopamine]

Anyone still think you will get a RIO even with the MPP? Now that we know they are going to be delay, the network just keeps going up and even if after they ship MPP  I dont see it happening...

[RoadStress]

I can't quite put my finger on why but my feeling is that HashFast is going to end up being the most professional and reliable of the bitcoin miner hardware companies. That is, if they make their deadline.

Of course, they don't have that tough of a competition.

Just another quote for posterity.

[cypherdoc]

Anyone still think you will get a RIO even with the MPP? Now that we know they are going to be delay, the network just keeps going up and even if after they ship MPP  I dont see it happening...

the way i view it is i don't care to outrun the network right now.  i just have to outrun guys like Bargraphics from KNC.

presuming we have roughly the same capacity once i get my initial HF order in the next month or so, i just care to stay with guys like him until the MPP kicks in.  then i'll get 5x the hashing for free to catapult me well past him.  sure, if he wants to go out and buy 5x more capacity to stay with me, he's welcome to.  but do i think he'll do it?  no, i think he'll be forced to turn off his machines.

[600watt]

it took network 4 years to jump up to 1 peta. for the next peta it only took ... 4 weeks. good luck with your pre-orders.

[Bargraphics]

Anyone still think you will get a RIO even with the MPP? Now that we know they are going to be delay, the network just keeps going up and even if after they ship MPP  I dont see it happening...

the way i view it is i don't care to outrun the network right now.  i just have to outrun guys like Bargraphics from KNC.

presuming we have roughly the same capacity once i get my initial HF order in the next month or so, i just care to stay with guys like him until the MPP kicks in.  then i'll get 5x the hashing for free to catapult me well past him.  sure, if he wants to go out and buy 5x more capacity to stay with me, he's welcome to.  but do i think he'll do it?  no, i think he'll be forced to turn off his machines.

Just to throw some logic in whatever fantasy you are living in,

You only get the MPP enough to make you "Break even" after three months of seeing if you do. (I'm not even sure if this means in Bitcoins from what you paid or if it is in USD based on the bitcoins mined and price at the end of the three months, maybe you can clarify as there is a large difference quite possibly)

HashFast doesn't want to give anyone free chips/modules, they want everyone to at least break even after three months so they don't have to do this. This is common sense.

If they have to give you 4 times the chips/modules as you are claiming, that means somewhere between when you get your miners from hashfast and three months afterwards, someone dumped a TON of hashing power on the network.

By the way, three months is an eternity in Bitcoin Land. There are already pre-orders being sold for less than $2/GH by the end of February "Black Arrow announces 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $1.49/Ghash"

My KnC machines are hosted for the next 7 months, completely paid for. So there won't be any turning them off as you suggested.

Also I own quite a bit of IceDrill shares which is basically the same thing as ordering from HashFast directly except they buy in bulk so they get those bulk purchase discounts every ASIC company offers, which they pass onto Investors.

I'm not "From KnC", I have KnC Machines and I told John just how many I had when I met with him well before you did. Please refrain from this warefare KnC vs HashFast. As I said in the KnC Thread I dislike you not hashfast.