HashFast launches sales of the Baby Jet

[User705]

You can be guaranteed that they will ship before Jan. 1.  Even if it is broken, consumes 10x the power, 1/2 the hash rate, and uses someone else's chips, you will be sure they will ship

Wanna bet?

(No, I've not learned my lesson about those kind of bets yet.)

I will bet if u are willing.   HashFast is a US located and registered company.  They have binding arbitration agreement in their contract.   They essentially lose everything by not shipping by 1 Jan. 

Would it really be out of the realm of possibilities for exchange rate to be over $1k and them simply refunding everyone the fiat price and self mining or selling to friends and family out the back door?  I'd have to look again but I think their very one sided TOS didn't state anything about refunding in BTC.

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[HashFast_CL]

Hi everybody!

Sorry for the lack of communication; I was ill and unable to liaison with the HashFast execs last week.

I'll go in to the office on Monday and see what news/updates can be shared with the forum.

Best,

-HF_CL


PS  I've been reading about the new Global Work Queue.  It has the potential to do for devices what stratum did for cgminer (IE keep everything topped up and minimize idle time to squeeze out every last drop of performance)!

[cedivad]

Are you cyperdoc? Who cares?

[HashFast_CL]

Are you cyperdoc?

No.  Cypher helped HashFast launch their products but is now just another (very, very early) customer.

My role as community liaison is to facilitate growth of an open source hardware and software ecosystem built around HashFast's technology.

So far we've got GWQ integrated into cgminer, and things will really start to pick up once the reference PCB, data sheet, and miniboards are in the wild.

Best,

-HF_CL

[Bicknellski]

Are you cyperdoc?

No.  Cypher helped HashFast launch their products but is now just another (very, very early) customer.

My role as community liaison is to facilitate growth of an open source hardware and software ecosystem built around HashFast's technology.

So far we've got GWQ integrated into cgminer, and things will really start to pick up once the reference PCB, data sheet, and miniboards are in the wild.

Best,

-HF_CL

It be great if we can smaller amounts of chips to work with to prove designs that are open source. Will there be any opportunities to buy small batches of chips in lots of 10 or 20?

[iCEBREAKER]

If anyone thought they would ship before their deadline, they clearly are new around here.  Name me one Asic provider that beat their end deadline.

Bitfury, delivered 1 day earlier, promised August 31st, delivered August 30th in quantity.

Some noobz have never heard of Rumsfeld's 'Unknown unknowns' much less Hofstadter's Law.

But they are lying when they claim to be incapable of understanding the difference between the most optimistic, earliest possible shipping  date and the guaranteed delivery date.  It's funny when they waste their Bitcoins to have a lawyer tell them their feigned obtuseness will be laughed out of court.

Bitfury is a brilliant designer and his chips weren't late, but they did ship at 50% of the spec'd clock rate, forcing him to ship twice as many.

Us 100TH investors have been royally screwed by the resulting delays in our mine build-out.

So let's not put Bitfury on too high a pedestal.

[DeathAndTaxes]

Are you cyperdoc?

No.  Cypher helped HashFast launch their products but is now just another (very, very early) customer.

My role as community liaison is to facilitate growth of an open source hardware and software ecosystem built around HashFast's technology.

So far we've got GWQ integrated into cgminer, and things will really start to pick up once the reference PCB, data sheet, and miniboards are in the wild.

Best,

-HF_CL

It be great if we can smaller amounts of chips to work with to prove designs that are open source. Will there be any opportunities to buy small batches of chips in lots of 10 or 20?

This is a good question even if they are considered engineering samples possibly at a higher price (and optimally that price could be used as a deposit towards a full reel purchase).

[Bicknellski]

Are you cyperdoc?

No.  Cypher helped HashFast launch their products but is now just another (very, very early) customer.

My role as community liaison is to facilitate growth of an open source hardware and software ecosystem built around HashFast's technology.

So far we've got GWQ integrated into cgminer, and things will really start to pick up once the reference PCB, data sheet, and miniboards are in the wild.

Best,

-HF_CL

It be great if we can smaller amounts of chips to work with to prove designs that are open source. Will there be any opportunities to buy small batches of chips in lots of 10 or 20?

This is a good question even if they are considered engineering samples possibly at a higher price (and optimally that price could be used as a deposit towards a full reel purchase).

That be fine anything some chip specs and some dummy chips even would be great.

[NineLives]

Has anyone ever received any hashfast equipment?

Edit:  What have I done?  I've bought one (gulp)...

[Bogart]

You can be guaranteed that they will ship before Jan. 1.  Even if it is broken, consumes 10x the power, 1/2 the hash rate, and uses someone else's chips, you will be sure they will ship

Wanna bet?

(No, I've not learned my lesson about those kind of bets yet.)

I will bet if u are willing.   HashFast is a US located and registered company.  They have binding arbitration agreement in their contract.   They essentially lose everything by not shipping by 1 Jan. 

Oops, replied kinda late.

Yeah, I'll put up 5 BTC (or less if that's too large an amount) in a gentleman's bet saying that HashFast will not ship finished miners to customers in 2013.

Shipping means delivery into customers' hands. Hosting doesn't count.

Reply in the thread if you want to accept.

[itod]

You can be guaranteed that they will ship before Jan. 1.  Even if it is broken, consumes 10x the power, 1/2 the hash rate, and uses someone else's chips, you will be sure they will ship

Wanna bet?

(No, I've not learned my lesson about those kind of bets yet.)

I will bet if u are willing.   HashFast is a US located and registered company.  They have binding arbitration agreement in their contract.   They essentially lose everything by not shipping by 1 Jan. 

Oops, replied kinda late.

Yeah, I'll put up 5 BTC (or less if that's too large an amount) in a gentleman's bet saying that HashFast will not ship finished miners to customers in 2013.

Shipping means delivery into customers' hands. Hosting doesn't count.

Reply in the thread if you want to accept.

[cedivad]

As people suggested, they will ship something by the end of the year. Let it be rebranded KNC/BF, they will make you in a position where you will receive those useless 400gh and can't ask for a refund.

After that, they will delay to death the MPP, and at the end of the story you wlll have 10 to 25% of the BTC you paid back.

They will be happy, they will have won.

I have no reason to bet, but i would.

[HashFast]

Hi all,

Just an update on what has been going on over at HashFast.

First the big news - our first substrates arrive on Monday, Nov 25!


These are the high precision PCBs that lie between the silicon die and the rest of the motherboard.  Once substrates arrive motherboard assembly begins, followed by board bring-up, chip bring-up and system bring-up (the process of testing chips starting at low power and working up to full spec).

For the past few weeks we have been busy assembling and testing the Baby Jet and Sierra. These images are of the Baby Jet. We are optimizing the Sierra and Baby Jet to make sure they run as cool as possible and validate our configuration's thermal management.




The video below demonstrates an airflow test of the Sierra and shows that all is working correctly in order to get sufficient ventilation flowing through the chassis.  We did the same with the Baby Jet, though there is much less heat with one chip.

http://youtu.be/2QURuDM1P0E


Here is the image of our PCB.  It features 16-phase voltage regulation, the best in the industry!




Providing our ASICs with very smooth, stable power ensures they run at maximum speed, while minimizing hardware errors and providing greater hardware reliability.

As soon as the system is successfully brought up then volume production ramp of the complete motherboards begins. We will be shipping the motherboards daily to Ciara, where they will be assembled with all of the other components of the Baby Jet and Sierra.


Cheers,

HashFast Team

[cedivad]

Thanks for the update.
Thanks for providing a picture of a 3D-printed model of the PCB, of which you released a rendering yesterday.
And thanks for the 25th of this month substrate delivery timeframe. I guess that we will have to wait till middle next week for the next update, tough?

Can you post some pictures of the production PCBs you had made in October back when you were still on track for late Oct delivery, before the substrate issue delayed everything for a couple months?

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- When are the upgrade chips shipping ?

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[beavertank]

Hi all,

Just an update on what has been going on over at HashFast.

First the big news - our first substrates arrive on Monday, Nov 25!


These are the high precision PCBs that lie between the silicon die and the rest of the motherboard.  Once substrates arrive motherboard assembly begins, followed by board bring-up, chip bring-up and system bring-up (the process of testing chips starting at low power and working up to full spec).

So, reading between the lines, we can expect shipments JUST before the Dec. 31 deadline... and you appear quite happy to be shipping a product months late.

I'm just so happy to have gotten involved with a company like you guys.

/sarcasm

[flyboy]

All I see is some parts from newegg.com. A piece of aluminum. And some Legos painted black.

This took 6+ months?

There is nothing one off there.

[gmaxwell]

Spiffy pictures.

Re: The smoke machine video, perhaps the babyjets will be free of the avalon problem where at high fanspeed the controller overheats due to a deadspot in the airflow.

[jjiimm_64]

Spiffy pictures.

Re: The smoke machine video, perhaps the babyjets will be free of the avalon problem where at high fanspeed the controller overheats due to a deadspot in the airflow.

I think they should have put a piece of clear plexi on top of the unit... It looks to me like the smoke was swurling in one corner.

[aerobatic]

Spiffy pictures.

Re: The smoke machine video, perhaps the babyjets will be free of the avalon problem where at high fanspeed the controller overheats due to a deadspot in the airflow.

I think they should have put a piece of clear plexi on top of the unit... It looks to me like the smoke was swurling in one corner.

i think once they have the other fans blowing air out (which they will)... then there won't be such swirling deadspots.

or.. they could fix the airflow by having some air-guides channel the air away from the power supply 'walls'

-- jez

[minternj]

All I see is some parts from newegg.com. A piece of aluminum. And some Legos painted black.

This took 6+ months?

There is nothing one off there.

It hasn't been 6 months ... yet.