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November 28, 2013, 04:17:34 AM |
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Yeah, I'll put up 5 BTC (or less if that's too large an amount) in a gentleman's bet saying that HashFast will not ship finished miners to customers in 2013.
Shipping means delivery into customers' hands. Hosting doesn't count.
Reply in the thread if you want to accept.
No takers?
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November 28, 2013, 09:16:37 AM |
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oh... even worse than I thought
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iCEBREAKER
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November 28, 2013, 11:59:29 PM |
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All I see is some parts from newegg.com. A piece of aluminum. And some Legos painted black.
You should also be able to see the GIANT picture of the PCB and a video of the airflow test too. Wait, there's something in your eye. Remove the jaundice and you'll then be able to observe what's plain to the rest of us.
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November 29, 2013, 12:02:42 AM |
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Someone gave up on the main thread and decided to only troll this one. I guess that your hourly payrate is not lowered cause of this?
Sorry for that.
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November 29, 2013, 12:09:51 AM |
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All I see is some parts from newegg.com. A piece of aluminum. And some Legos painted black.
You should also be able to see the GIANT picture of the PCB and a video of the airflow test too. Wait, there's something in your eye. Remove the jaundice and you'll then be able to observe what's plain to the rest of us. That's a MOCK pcb retard. M-O-C-K! Why is it black if it's reeel? So after receiving their substrate they post this lousy marketing/PR video? I was so damn right when i said HF is the new BFL. Hello sock-puppet btw!
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November 29, 2013, 12:15:17 AM |
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a video of the airflow test too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8FdOB_96jQHere's another one, don't you dare calling it a scam, now!
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iCEBREAKER
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November 29, 2013, 12:41:32 AM |
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That's a MOCK pcb retard. M-O-C-K! Why is it black if it's reeel?
So after receiving their substrate they post this lousy marketing/PR video? I was so damn right when i said HF is the new BFL. Hello sock-puppet btw!
Hey RS, have you noticed we registered here on the same day? You beat me by a few hours, so I guess I must defer to your seniority and accept your judgement. I was referring to the picture of the PCB, not the airflow test mock-up, BTW. ^This^ PCB is not "from newegg.com," nor "a piece of aluminum," nor "some Legos painted black." The Negative Nancy who said that's all he saw was either being intentionally dishonest or honestly obtuse.
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November 29, 2013, 12:49:44 AM |
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That's a MOCK pcb retard. M-O-C-K! Why is it black if it's reeel?
So after receiving their substrate they post this lousy marketing/PR video? I was so damn right when i said HF is the new BFL. Hello sock-puppet btw!
Hey RS, have you noticed we registered here on the same day? You beat me by a few hours, so I guess I must defer to your seniority and accept your judgement. I was referring to the picture of the PCB, not the airflow test mock-up, BTW. ^This^ PCB is not "from newegg.com," nor "a piece of aluminum," nor "some Legos painted black." The Negative Nancy who said that's all he saw was either being intentionally dishonest or honestly obtuse. It's also nothing more than a CAD drawing. The real, physical objects in the photo were 3D printed mockups of an assembled board and off-the-shelf hardware that anyone in this thread could go out and buy right now. As in, their "proof" that their product actually physically exists and is coming along amounts to a CAD drawing (which proves nothing of the sort), a 3D printed dummy version of their board, and an assortment of readily available consumer hardware. It seems like you're the one being "intentionally dishonest or honestly obtuse" here.
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iCEBREAKER
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November 29, 2013, 01:00:48 AM |
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It's also nothing more than a CAD drawing. The real, physical objects in the photo were 3D printed mockups of an assembled board and off-the-shelf hardware that anyone in this thread could go out and buy right now.
As in, their "proof" that their product actually physically exists and is coming along amounts to a CAD drawing (which proves nothing of the sort), a 3D printed dummy version of their board, and an assortment of readily available consumer hardware.
It seems like you're the one being "intentionally dishonest or honestly obtuse" here.
Please quote where I said it was wasn't a CAD drawing. Oh wait; you can't. Because I never said it wasn't CAD drawing. This PCB design is not trivial, despite your snotty dismissal of its significance and pedantic ELIF of the mock-up. Would you rather the PCB design not be complete? The short turn-around time for PCB manufacturing has already been covered at length, on this thread as well as every other fucking ASIC thread. And yet here you are, still unable to grasp the simple fact that PCBs are trivial to quickly assemble once the difficult design phase is complete. Grow up and stop drinking cevidad's Haterade.
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November 29, 2013, 02:18:52 AM |
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Hi all, Just an update on what has been going on over at HashFast. First the big news - our first substrates arrive on Monday, Nov 25!These are the high precision PCBs that lie between the silicon die and the rest of the motherboard. Once substrates arrive motherboard assembly begins, followed by board bring-up, chip bring-up and system bring-up (the process of testing chips starting at low power and working up to full spec). For the past few weeks we have been busy assembling and testing the Baby Jet and Sierra. These images are of the Baby Jet. We are optimizing the Sierra and Baby Jet to make sure they run as cool as possible and validate our configuration's thermal management. The video below demonstrates an airflow test of the Sierra and shows that all is working correctly in order to get sufficient ventilation flowing through the chassis. We did the same with the Baby Jet, though there is much less heat with one chip. http://youtu.be/2QURuDM1P0EHashfast Guys why in the world are you even producing two different models? It appears that the baby jet takes two cards. So does the Sierra. The baby jet vents heat in three different directions, front, top, back. That is awful and won't work at scale very well. Sierra is better, cold air in the front hot air out the back. Both take up approximately the same amount of space. Please oh please just ship all sierras, I see no cost savings for you guys because of economies of scale it will cost about the same to ship all sierra case/fan combos. For those like myself that ordered batch 1 baby jets and the upgrade module for existing customers only, it would help goodwill immensely to just ship us 2 module sierras and not this 3 way heat vent monstrosity you have dubbed the baby jet.
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November 29, 2013, 04:30:36 AM |
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It's also nothing more than a CAD drawing. The real, physical objects in the photo were 3D printed mockups of an assembled board and off-the-shelf hardware that anyone in this thread could go out and buy right now.
As in, their "proof" that their product actually physically exists and is coming along amounts to a CAD drawing (which proves nothing of the sort), a 3D printed dummy version of their board, and an assortment of readily available consumer hardware.
It seems like you're the one being "intentionally dishonest or honestly obtuse" here.
Please quote where I said it was wasn't a CAD drawing. Oh wait; you can't. Because I never said it wasn't CAD drawing. This PCB design is not trivial, despite your snotty dismissal of its significance and pedantic ELIF of the mock-up. Would you rather the PCB design not be complete? The short turn-around time for PCB manufacturing has already been covered at length, on this thread as well as every other fucking ASIC thread. And yet here you are, still unable to grasp the simple fact that PCBs are trivial to quickly assemble once the difficult design phase is complete. Grow up and stop drinking cevidad's Haterade. You've included an impressive number of logical fallacies in your response. Arguing a point that was never in contention ("Please quote where I said it was wasn't [sic] a CAD drawing")? Check. Making unrelated points ("PCB design is not trivial") as a rebuttal (to the only real point "they demonstrated no physical thing that's not off-the-shelf or a dummy mockup")? Check. Ad-hominems scattered throughout? Check. If anyone around here actually listens to a word you say this post alone ought to convince them to stop.
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November 29, 2013, 05:33:17 AM |
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This is a picture. And this is a picture. This is not a picture. See the difference?
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November 29, 2013, 06:58:11 AM |
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This is a picture. And this is a picture. This is not a picture. See the difference? Icepecker getting clowned non-stop on two threads
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November 29, 2013, 06:47:15 PM |
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+1 I need to many fans in a liquid cooled system (CoolIT Cooling System)? I pay for a system with liquid cooling ... no photo or CAD ¨picture¨?
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November 30, 2013, 11:08:03 AM |
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This is a picture. And this is a picture. This is not a picture. See the difference? There is a difference between "picture" and 'photograph.' All three pictures are pictures; the first two are the kind of picture we call a 'photograph.'
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HashFast Production Update... Miner Protection ProgramFor those of you covered under the Miner Protection Program™ ( https://hashfast.com/miner-protection-program/), this delay will not affect the starting point from which benefits are calculated. For First Batch Baby Jets, the start date of the program will be retroactive to October 30th. We want to make sure a delayed ship date does not reduce the value of the program. ... - The HashFast Team how much did we make back with our virtual BabyJets batch one? I mean if the MMP did start on October 30th someone have to count the amount we made back since then and still counting. how much of my order #13xx with 49+ BTC I made back in 30 days to caclulate the amount of free chip bundles up to 4 (1600 / 400 = 4). The MPP coverage extends to up to 400% of the capacity purchased. For a Baby Jet, with a nominal 400 Ghash/s capacity, the MPP is limited to sending an additional 1.6 Terrahash/s of additional ASIC hashing capacity, for a total of 2 Terahashes!
https://hashfast.com/miner-protection-program/EDIT: they spoke official on their website to deliver BabyJet first batch when? start to deliver on 20-30th of October?
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November 30, 2013, 01:28:57 PM |
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Hey RS, have you noticed we registered here on the same day? You beat me by a few hours, so I guess I must defer to your seniority and accept your judgement. I was referring to the picture of the PCB, not the airflow test mock-up, BTW. The Negative Nancy who said that's all he saw was either being intentionally dishonest or honestly obtuse. There is a difference between "picture" and 'photograph.'
All three pictures are pictures; the first two are the kind of picture we call a 'photograph.'
I don't want anyone to respect my seniority, but i dislike when people take me as stupid or idiot. And when you are praising HF with their stupid pcb schematics (still not one single picture/photo of a real PCB) when they are already late it makes me think that for you i'm just an idiot. With the second quote you are slowly moving towards retard Inaba style. It's something you choose, nobody is forcing you. I wonder what will you say when HF will fail their 31 December deadline. What arguments will you find then because i'm sure you will do just like retard Inaba always does.
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November 30, 2013, 04:46:37 PM |
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There is a difference between "picture" and 'photograph.'
All three pictures are pictures; the first two are the kind of picture we call a 'photograph.'
Don't be stupid. Nobody cares about seeing a rendered image that might be turned into a PCB someday. Everyone is asking for a "photograph" of an actual PCB that exists in the real world, since they have to exist for HashFast to meet any of their promised delivery dates. It's looking more and more like they lied about delivery dates.
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