🌟🚀 [Pre-ANN] AZULIK: adding privacy to DAG fee-less instant transactions 🌟🚀

[AzulikProject]

Thank you for supporting however we don't want to discuss how legit Stone project is.
We only accept to challenge the approach and methodology used and remain courteous with other projects.

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[JackReachme]

Distribution:

It's very early to speak about the distribution as we expect months of work ahead, especially because we are busy with our daily work at the office, but we would like to find a very fun, fair, and new way to distribute Azulik. Any ideas?


Can i help ?

Of course you can, we are always interested in people having expertise and wanting to share, do not hesitate to contact us and give us your toughs, concerns, comments or complaints. If you have no expertise in this field hence you can motivate us if you are as excited by the project as we are.  

I loved the faucet from XRB, so that might be the way. So everyone is equal.

I am also following Stone and really excited about ur approach. Good luck and i would also like to support u guys.

Cheers,
Jack

[AzulikProject]

I loved the faucet from XRB, so that might be the way. So everyone is equal.

I am also following Stone and really excited about ur approach. Good luck and i would also like to support u guys.

Cheers,
Jack

We also believe faucet distribution if well done is a fair distribution way.
However solving captcha is a bit boring so we'll try to make it more fun.

[monerofort]

Complete scam! its copied the Stone ann exactly: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2581762.0

Stone has been developing zksnarks with DAG for the last month!

[AzulikProject]

We don't use zkSNARKs as Colin said it's impossible, we verified by simulation it would take 45-50 minutes for one transaction. I don't know how Stone will make it, but probably not  by copy pasting Wikipedia page  . It's not mathematically feasible. Once it's said please don't Spam this topic. We don't tell you our thoughs about Stone (but been called scam and compared with STONE....) please check the first post of this page 2. Please don't FUD here and please read our announcement which is completely different and we think much more documented with original content.

What is AZULIK ?

Azulik aims to be Raiblocks with privacy.
We may make some changes to the Raiblocks protocol, but in the end, we want to offer a decentralised, fee-less, anonymous, and instant cryptocurrency.

At this stage we confirm that Colin's words were right, it's not possible to apply privacy to XRB as we kown it today ( zkSNARKs).

Adding the privacy feature is harder than it may look, simply applying a ZK-SNARKs protocol (the underlying protocol of Zcash) would make the transaction time increase a lot.

That why we are currently working on two approaches:

    Having an optional privacy feature, allowing to have instant transaction or privacy
      
    WPI (witness-indistinguishable proof ) approach which for us would be the best way to have both instant transaction and privacy


See below and our whitepaper for details.

[KryptoQuant]

He has been working for the last month and so what ? No whitepaper ? No code ? Only copy and paste from wikipedia. It's more than that, he copy-paste random things from wikipedia and make completly silly conclusion, but absolutely wrong conclusion. And you still think it's legit.  

Azulik is legit, Stone isn't.

[AzulikProject]

We are now done with this topic, let's discuss about Azulik.
Thank you

[Flater]

Just wake up with a fresh mind and gave a read to all your announcement and whitepaper, it's even more impressive. You guys know what you are talking about wow, it's solid like a rock.

I changed my signature to support you, all supporters who can't affoad to donate should do the same, this project will skyrocketing, and i'm so happy i'll get coin for free and finally be an early adopter in the cryptocurrency world.

[Sheyrn]

Raiblocks with privacy very interesting. Do you have discord or telegram? would like to know more about the project.

[Yodax]

Do you guys have to make the privacy an option?
Imo, real privacy come when it's not optional.
Look at Monero and some optional privacy coins. When we choose to make it private, it stand out of the pack and make it a "target", doing the opposite job of privacy.

Monero make all transactions private so it's fungible. This projects should aim the same, no?

[AzulikProject]

Do you guys have to make the privacy an option?
Imo, real privacy come when it's not optional.
Look at Monero and some optional privacy coins. When we choose to make it private, it stand out of the pack and make it a "target", doing the opposite job of privacy.

Monero make all transactions private so it's fungible. This projects should aim the same, no?

It's a very interresting point.

For sure applying zkSNARKs isn't possible unless you want to wait 1 hour for a transaction. So to deal with it we are working on two approaches:

One of them is an optional privacy: people wanting instant transaction won't use the privacy, people wanting privacy will use it. It would be the worst case.

The other one will be by using a WPI or Recursive zk-SNARKS  protocol to have both instant and private transaction as you which.

It's really hard in the crypto world to enable privacy for instant transaction it will require further research, testing and simulation.

But in the end we want Azulik to be anonymous and instant and we will do our best to achieve that.

[Afkbio]

Hey there, looking good

There is a discord for discussing DAG coins with privacy concept and feasability, if you'd like to join.

https://discord.gg/auFsMSD

See ya

[AzulikProject]

Interesting to look at the discord, it's like we really work on the project , of course we do, hours and hours.

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2018/02/7/1515949192-discordazulik.png
(Thanks Flater for the screenshot)


Glad you think we are legit.

[Sam123]

Three similar projects: Stone, Manta and now AZULIK now. Same idea and same contribution Scheme.
All of them don't show any initial draft of the Whitepaper or any code to view. Why?
Good luck

[Flater]

Interesting to look at the discord, it's like we really work on the project , of course we do, hours and hours.


(Thanks Flater for the screenshot)


Glad you think we are legit.

Three similar projects: Stone, Manta and now AZULIK now. Same idea and same contribution Scheme.
All of them don't show any initial draft of the Whitepaper or any code to view. Why?
Good luck

You should check one message above  .

On top of that Azulik has a completly different approach, they don't say like the two other project we will merge zkSNARKs and DAG  without more explanation. Here they argue it's no possible and propose two alternative.

[stil55]

So basically this is simply a copy of RaiBlocks with a privacy feature added? Look like a very interesting project.I'll be waiting for the whitepaper and more information regarding this, sounds pretty promising.By the way, what is the total supply of this coin? I will closely follow this project which seem very promising and professional.

[kenny_a]

The purpose is adding anonimity function to raiblocks.
But already exist aidos kuneen is DAG+anonimity.
so i think its not innovative.

[Sam123]

Interesting to look at the discord, it's like we really work on the project , of course we do, hours and hours.


(Thanks Flater for the screenshot)


Glad you think we are legit.

Three similar projects: Stone, Manta and now AZULIK now. Same idea and same contribution Scheme.
All of them don't show any initial draft of the Whitepaper or any code to view. Why?
Good luck

You should check one message above  .

On top of that Azulik has a completly different approach, they don't say like the two other project we will merge zkSNARKs and DAG  without more explanation. Here they argue it's no possible and propose two alternative.

Then again, devs needs to show the initial Draft of the Whitepaper and some basic code

[AzulikProject]

So basically this is simply a copy of RaiBlocks with a privacy feature added? Look like a very interesting project.I'll be waiting for the whitepaper and more information regarding this, sounds pretty promising.By the way, what is the total supply of this coin? I will closely follow this project which seem very promising and professional.

You can already have a look at the very first draft of our whitepaper.

The total supply will be high enough to allow daily use in real life. We believe that if you pay your coffee you prefer to pay 2 Azulik  rather than 0,000000012 Azulik it's much more adapted to human brain.

The purpose is adding anonimity function to raiblocks.
But already exist aidos kuneen is DAG+anonimity.
so i think its not innovative.

We don't really know much about Aidos is it instant and fee-less with high scalability ?

Then again, devs needs to show the initial Draft of the Whitepaper and some basic code

The first draft of our whitepaper can be accessed from the red link in the announcement post. I understand that using a red link is maybe not the best way, we will fixe it. Regarding the code, we have code regarding our way to handle the privacy. We will share it of course.

[Sam123]

So basically this is simply a copy of RaiBlocks with a privacy feature added? Look like a very interesting project.I'll be waiting for the whitepaper and more information regarding this, sounds pretty promising.By the way, what is the total supply of this coin? I will closely follow this project which seem very promising and professional.

You can already have a look at the very first draft of our whitepaper.

The total supply will be high enough to allow daily use in real life. We believe that if you pay your coffee you prefer to pay 2 Azulik  rather than 0,000000012 Azulik it's much more adapted to human brain.

The purpose is adding anonimity function to raiblocks.
But already exist aidos kuneen is DAG+anonimity.
so i think its not innovative.

We don't really know much about Aidos is it instant and fee-less with high scalability ?

Then again, devs needs to show the initial Draft of the Whitepaper and some basic code

The first draft of our whitepaper can be accessed from the red link in the announcement post. I understand that using a red link is maybe not the best way, we will fixe it. Regarding the code, we have code regarding our way to handle the privacy. We will share it of course.

Very good Thanks. My turn to do some homework (read the whitepaper). Please post any source code ASAP.
Thanks