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Author Topic: [ANN][POOL] ZERGPOOL.com - Multialgo, autoexchange, 0.5% fee, 250+ coins  (Read 57517 times)
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September 01, 2018, 05:18:28 PM
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Getting "stratum_subscribe timed out" when mining skein
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September 02, 2018, 11:39:16 PM
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Is there a problem with payouts or a delay? I havent had one in 2 days.
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September 03, 2018, 11:31:15 AM
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I have been testing your x16r pool with payouts in raven. c=RVN in the password

claimed 24hour profit by the pool: 0.0011722 BTC/GHASH
actual profit(24hours):  0,0079696 BTC/GHASH (yesterdays price of 0.00000320btc/raven)
actual profit(24hours): 0,00737188 BTC/GHASH (todays price of 0.00000294btc/raven)

From the graph you can see that the balance sometimes drops. So hashing for 8 hours in two periods didn't increase
the balance even if new blocks where found.





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September 03, 2018, 05:38:11 PM
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I have been testing your x16r pool with payouts in raven. c=RVN in the password

claimed 24hour profit by the pool: 0.0011722 BTC/GHASH
actual profit(24hours):  0,0079696 BTC/GHASH (yesterdays price of 0.00000320btc/raven)
actual profit(24hours): 0,00737188 BTC/GHASH (todays price of 0.00000294btc/raven)

From the graph you can see that the balance sometimes drops. So hashing for 8 hours in two periods didn't increase
the balance even if new blocks where found.






What coins did you mine to RVN wallet? Have you checked if those price was stable?
I mean only reason for a price drop is coin prices on exchange
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September 03, 2018, 09:38:39 PM
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What coins did you mine to RVN wallet? Have you checked if those price was stable?
I mean only reason for a price drop is coin prices on exchange

I mine on the x16r port without specifying any coin, but the payout is in RVN. I use c=RVN in the password.

the test is still running. Today I see that the balance dropped after the exchange has taken place. (the blue line in the circle.) When I mine with c=RVN, shouldn't the blue line always grow?


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September 04, 2018, 06:29:39 PM
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ZergPool has a 17% difference between 24hrs actual stats and REAL actual stats.  Everything normalized.  So its the same as Zpool
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September 06, 2018, 04:20:00 PM
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nice i go to mine with you pool!
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September 09, 2018, 04:02:41 AM
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What is this all about?

 "payment threshold is 25000 BTC and 25000 BTC on Sunday "

why was threshold increased to a ridiculous amount?

BTC:   36rCoHUtzBcAXxbNHco19ThpKgtCdxfU6i
RVN:   RKauAgDZQ3G77yKqwZEN2F8ZcyAM5LueFZp
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September 11, 2018, 06:15:25 AM
Last edit: September 11, 2018, 08:43:50 PM by minerx117
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Need to check Pay Outs pinpins they are building up to big totals and not paying as they should be

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September 12, 2018, 05:34:35 PM
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Need to check Pay Outs pinpins they are building up to big totals and not paying as they should be

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Was it rounding issue I recently fixed?
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September 13, 2018, 02:27:44 PM
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Did some math with hmq1725 algo and watched buys and sells for some period.  Easier on small shit coins to see what is going on.


Nothing good is going on, thats what.  I cant prove anything but I do feel strongly that zergpool / pools either mismanages coin selling or is buying its dumps. 

edit: In addition, 24hrs "actual" and estimated are garbage values.  I cannot compute the same values with the data I have harvested.  Current (non 24hrs) is the past 24hrs actual in reality. (or closer to)
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September 13, 2018, 06:00:38 PM
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Need to check Pay Outs pinpins they are building up to big totals and not paying as they should be

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Was it rounding issue I recently fixed?

its not fixed as far as i can tell

eg. http://zergpool.com/?address=1QGADhdMRpp9Pk5u5zG1TrHKRrdK5R81TE

no payout in 9 days..


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September 14, 2018, 12:33:43 PM
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Did some math with hmq1725 algo and watched buys and sells for some period.  Easier on small shit coins to see what is going on.

Nothing good is going on, thats what.  I cant prove anything but I do feel strongly that zergpool / pools either mismanages coin selling or is buying its dumps. 
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You are slowly but surely zeroing in on the fatal flaw of all these multi-algo, auto-switching mining pools: they have you mine what is most profitable right now, but sell the coin at a later time when it is often not worth nearly as much (i.e. - because of a pump-and-dump).
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September 14, 2018, 05:51:26 PM
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Need to check Pay Outs pinpins they are building up to big totals and not paying as they should be

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Was it rounding issue I recently fixed?

its not fixed as far as i can tell

eg. http://zergpool.com/?address=1QGADhdMRpp9Pk5u5zG1TrHKRrdK5R81TE

no payout in 9 days..


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I see you have setup high payout level 0.05.
You can reset it by pl=0
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September 14, 2018, 08:08:49 PM
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Did some math with hmq1725 algo and watched buys and sells for some period.  Easier on small shit coins to see what is going on.

Nothing good is going on, thats what.  I cant prove anything but I do feel strongly that zergpool / pools either mismanages coin selling or is buying its dumps.  
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You are slowly but surely zeroing in on the fatal flaw of all these multi-algo, auto-switching mining pools: they have you mine what is most profitable right now, but sell the coin at a later time when it is often not worth nearly as much (i.e. - because of a pump-and-dump).


Lets say i'm evil, or a pool operator (is there a difference ?) and I know when (where is not a problem) zerg pool dumps coins, I can calculate the bid depth, so lets say I have 1.5btc to sell (you can calculate from pool hashrate and avg difficulty), the last share sold would end up in the order book to a specific point.  Example:  Market is 800-850 sats, depth 1.5btc brings it to 600 sats.  Now lets say I put 0.5btc bid at 605 sats, I would get my fill when the pool dumps.  Price may recover after one dump, maybe a bit lower, so you can sell your coins back at 750-800 lets say.  Not bad if you do so many times a day on many coins.  Its free money, straight out of the miners pocket.
edit: not out of mine anyway
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September 14, 2018, 08:41:47 PM
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Lets say i'm evil, or a pool operator (is there a difference ?) and I know when (where is not a problem) zerg pool dumps coins, I can calculate the bid depth, so lets say I have 1.5btc to sell (you can calculate from pool hashrate and avg difficulty), the last share sold would end up in the order book to a specific point.  Example:  Market is 800-850 sats, depth 1.5btc brings it to 600 sats.  Now lets say I put 0.5btc bid at 605 sats, I would get my fill when the pool dumps.  Price may recover after one dump, maybe a bit lower, so you can sell your coins back at 750-800 lets say.  Not bad if you do so many times a day on many coins.  Its free money, straight out of the miners pocket.
edit: not out of mine anyway

Yep, that's a solid plan. There's all kinds of shady crap that can happen in crypto still because regulation hasn't caught up with it. Insider trading, order spoofing, pump-n-dump... it's like the 1920's stock market all over again.

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September 15, 2018, 12:08:53 AM
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Need to check Pay Outs pinpins they are building up to big totals and not paying as they should be

Best Regards
Nemo

Was it rounding issue I recently fixed?

its not fixed as far as i can tell

eg. http://zergpool.com/?address=1QGADhdMRpp9Pk5u5zG1TrHKRrdK5R81TE

no payout in 9 days..


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I see you have setup high payout level 0.05.
You can reset it by pl=0

thanks

Personalized payment level
Specify payment threshold using pl= parameter in password field (example pl=0.1). Setting is saved once miner is connected. Personalized payment threshold level can be only higher than pool default. If you want to reset it, specify pl=0 once at connection of miner. You can check your setting was applied using your wallet address web page. ("pl" stands for payment level)
Example to mine in Innova coin and get payout in LTC setting payment level at 0.5 LTC
-o stratum+tcp://neoscrypt.mine.zergpool.com:PORT -u <YOUR_LTC_ADDRESS> -p c=LTC,mc=INN,pl=0.5

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September 16, 2018, 07:15:30 AM
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Lets say i'm evil, or a pool operator (is there a difference ?) and I know when (where is not a problem) zerg pool dumps coins, I can calculate the bid depth, so lets say I have 1.5btc to sell (you can calculate from pool hashrate and avg difficulty), the last share sold would end up in the order book to a specific point.  Example:  Market is 800-850 sats, depth 1.5btc brings it to 600 sats.  Now lets say I put 0.5btc bid at 605 sats, I would get my fill when the pool dumps.  Price may recover after one dump, maybe a bit lower, so you can sell your coins back at 750-800 lets say.  Not bad if you do so many times a day on many coins.  Its free money, straight out of the miners pocket.
edit: not out of mine anyway

Yep, that's a solid plan. There's all kinds of shady crap that can happen in crypto still because regulation hasn't caught up with it. Insider trading, order spoofing, pump-n-dump... it's like the 1920's stock market all over again.



Well, trading is another topic there, so many possibilities etc.  From my end I can only confirm it works straight forward, we just sell coins to support turnover and every 12h payment schedule. I mean, I have no time to dance with 300 coins on exchanges.
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September 16, 2018, 02:29:16 PM
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Oh yeah I agree, the auto btc function is nice and all, but I guess only efficient for large liquid coins.  Ideally the pool would auto sell on a very short period.
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September 16, 2018, 03:39:23 PM
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Well, trading is another topic there, so many possibilities etc.  From my end I can only confirm it works straight forward, we just sell coins to support turnover and every 12h payment schedule. I mean, I have no time to dance with 300 coins on exchanges.

Oh, I wasn't saying you were intentionally doing something shady, just that pools like yours suck in general because the whole idea behind them is fatally flawed. If the only coins you offered were large and liquid - as fr4nkthetank pointed out - then this type of pool would make more sense, but if each algo you support has one or more shitcoins that are ridiculously prone to pump-n-dump (or the so-called "chainsaw difficulty attack") then profitability gets thrown out the window.

This is likely why there are so many complaints about steep drops in payout amount happening many hours to days after the fact. Consequently, my advice to those that don't have any particularly coin they are interested in but whose electricity cost is low enough that their rigs should be mining something is to point their rigs at Nicehash.

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