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January 15, 2018, 06:35:17 PM
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This would produce the most gains , but if you predict wrong you could be stuck waiting for the price to either come back up or down to get back in. I did this the other day. I sold and bought back in at what I had predicted was going to be the next upswing. However some last second sellers swooped in and dropped the price below my limit. Then it just continued to fall from there. Now I sit and wait for the price to come back up to my purchase price so I can get back at it. I hate waiting. I get antsy. I should have left some money in reserve so I could have at least bought in at the bottom. I got greedy. Now I wait.  Sad
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January 15, 2018, 06:42:02 PM
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This would produce the most gains , but if you predict wrong you could be stuck waiting for the price to either come back up or down to get back in. I did this the other day. I sold and bought back in at what I had predicted was going to be the next upswing. However some last second sellers swooped in and dropped the price below my limit. Then it just continued to fall from there. Now I sit and wait for the price to come back up to my purchase price so I can get back at it. I hate waiting. I get antsy. I should have left some money in reserve so I could have at least bought in at the bottom. I got greedy. Now I wait.  Sad
Mate you need to have patience in trading. And don't be too emotional as well because it might cause you to lose instead of gaining. I agree that when you go all in it will produce you a massive gains. I already did that so many times in the past. But now, If I think I have to sell, i only dump a few. Just what you seen today, I also experienced that as well. So sometimes it's never a good thing to dump everything.

Sorry to tell but yes, being greedy doesn't do any good at the end. Just wait and be patience and you will have your chance to get back into the picture again. Goodluck.









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January 15, 2018, 06:59:25 PM
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This would produce the most gains , but if you predict wrong you could be stuck waiting for the price to either come back up or down to get back in. I did this the other day. I sold and bought back in at what I had predicted was going to be the next upswing. However some last second sellers swooped in and dropped the price below my limit. Then it just continued to fall from there. Now I sit and wait for the price to come back up to my purchase price so I can get back at it. I hate waiting. I get antsy. I should have left some money in reserve so I could have at least bought in at the bottom. I got greedy. Now I wait.  Sad
This is the consequence on going all in when you are already pending on your actions since you dont have anything left on your pocket to spend on into another positions or even make use of back up plans. Going all in isnt a good idea most of the time but well its your money after all you do have the full control on making decisions that you would made but on wise side dont go all in its very risky and the same time we cant assure anytime with our actions.

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January 15, 2018, 07:00:46 PM
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This would produce the most gains , but if you predict wrong you could be stuck waiting for the price to either come back up or down to get back in. I did this the other day. I sold and bought back in at what I had predicted was going to be the next upswing. However some last second sellers swooped in and dropped the price below my limit. Then it just continued to fall from there. Now I sit and wait for the price to come back up to my purchase price so I can get back at it. I hate waiting. I get antsy. I should have left some money in reserve so I could have at least bought in at the bottom. I got greedy. Now I wait.  Sad

It's not generally good practice to be so and as I've grown my money to use trading then I am less so but still it can be upwards of 50% in one coin at any given time. Initially when I was under 1 btc is was all in one coin but I was knowingly taking a riskier approach to try and speed up the process.

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January 15, 2018, 07:39:40 PM
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Yes this is what happens with each and every trader they just lose patience, they invest everything in a single trade, they don't plan their trades, they get emotional often on all of their trades and all these things end up with a big capital loss with every trader who don't find up solution for their problems.
So i will request you to plan your trades and trade your plan and don't be emotional after the trade has been placed from your side, once the trade has been placed either you get your calculated and expected profit or you exit at preplanned stop loss.

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January 15, 2018, 07:55:44 PM
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This would produce the most gains , but if you predict wrong you could be stuck waiting for the price to either come back up or down to get back in. I did this the other day. I sold and bought back in at what I had predicted was going to be the next upswing. However some last second sellers swooped in and dropped the price below my limit. Then it just continued to fall from there. Now I sit and wait for the price to come back up to my purchase price so I can get back at it. I hate waiting. I get antsy. I should have left some money in reserve so I could have at least bought in at the bottom. I got greedy. Now I wait.  Sad

It's fine to do All-In as long you really know what you are doing. I have done several All-In's in the past on which most of them are successful in the long run.

But remember that doing All-In's requires number one recipes to become success and that is "patience". Since most of the altcoins are much volatile compare to bitcoin wherein winning or losing might happened even in a matter of seconds, it does needs proper analyzation and patience for triggering your action.

Since you mentioned that you hate waiting then it's better not to play with the coins that is prone to manipulation for the moment until you don't understand what you are really doing. But you know, your experienced loss will be your good foundation in making good decision on your future trades. Hope that you learned your lesson.

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January 15, 2018, 08:01:13 PM
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This would produce the most gains , but if you predict wrong you could be stuck waiting for the price to either come back up or down to get back in. I did this the other day. I sold and bought back in at what I had predicted was going to be the next upswing. However some last second sellers swooped in and dropped the price below my limit. Then it just continued to fall from there. Now I sit and wait for the price to come back up to my purchase price so I can get back at it. I hate waiting. I get antsy. I should have left some money in reserve so I could have at least bought in at the bottom. I got greedy. Now I wait.  Sad
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January 15, 2018, 08:06:11 PM
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I trade off the order book and depth chart on gdax. I bought when I did because I saw the wall on the depth chart and was confident the price was going to upswing when it hit the wall.  There were more buy orders than sell orders at that second. I stuck with my strategy however It didn't work that time. I'm not worried about losing money. I never sell below the price I bought in at. I just wait for it to come back up. Then place my sell order within a few dollars of the wall so I get the execution right before it hits and changes direction.
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January 15, 2018, 08:46:51 PM
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I trade off the order book and depth chart on gdax. I bought when I did because I saw the wall on the depth chart and was confident the price was going to upswing when it hit the wall.  There were more buy orders than sell orders at that second. I stuck with my strategy however It didn't work that time. I'm not worried about losing money. I never sell below the price I bought in at. I just wait for it to come back up. Then place my sell order within a few dollars of the wall so I get the execution right before it hits and changes direction.

Yeah, because each exchange only trades on its own liquidity, correct? As opposed to stocks/currencies where the liquidity pool is spread out amongst brokers/banks, so the order book you see is not going to show you the orders on other exchanges they trade with (e.g., you might think its going to break up at .0476 but on another exchange that uses the same liquidity pool there might be the opposite happening)?

I'm quite slow with coins/ICOs - no real day trading from me, just checking back regularly and spread over 5-10 coins.
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January 15, 2018, 09:05:16 PM
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And what is wrong with that? i am never trading with bitcoin/usdt because it is extremely risky, there is no way to predict the trend or how it is going to go through in the next hours/minutes/days.
I trade off the order book and depth chart on gdax. I bought when I did because I saw the wall on the depth chart and was confident the price was going to upswing when it hit the wall.  

That is the reason of why i prefer to trade with altcoins, and no, i never go all in with all my trades.

Maybe, sometimes i just put more than 30% of my entire portfolio on a single altcoin, but it has never been more than 50%.


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January 15, 2018, 09:17:34 PM
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Rule number one of trading is to never go all in and it is for basically the reason you described. You don't want to feel stuck in a trade and if you go all in your gonna feel a whole range of emotions based on where you are at. Regardless whether that is positive or negative you will feel not good throughout and that is why it is better to diversify your assets, especially in crypto where assets are volatile.

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January 15, 2018, 09:18:28 PM
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This would produce the most gains , but if you predict wrong you could be stuck waiting for the price to either come back up or down to get back in. I did this the other day. I sold and bought back in at what I had predicted was going to be the next upswing. However some last second sellers swooped in and dropped the price below my limit. Then it just continued to fall from there. Now I sit and wait for the price to come back up to my purchase price so I can get back at it. I hate waiting. I get antsy. I should have left some money in reserve so I could have at least bought in at the bottom. I got greedy. Now I wait.  Sad

Interesting. I don't go all-in when trading, but that's not because I'm scared of my investment losing its value. When I invest in something, I'm very sure it'll make me some money sooner or later, or benefit a project I love.

Sadly, there is an other factor that limits me: The incapability of exchanges, wallets and more. It's sad how many exchanges either get hacked or turn into scams (like HitBTC). It's a very dangerous practice to bet a lot of money on something influenced so much by exchanges potentially stealing your money. Of course, you should take your money off an exchange as soon as you're done trading, but there's still the deposit, withdrawal and the time between those 2 for the exchange/hackers to steal your money!

There's my very simple reasoning as to why I don't go all-in. Another reason is when I feel like 2 coins are capable of growing a lot and I don't want to choose one that grows just a bit whilst the other grows tons. Diversification can help me avoid those opportunity losses as well, though I would obviously sacrifice some potential profits.


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January 15, 2018, 09:20:32 PM
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All into 1 coin!  Grin
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January 15, 2018, 09:23:20 PM
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Shit happens. It is part of the trading industry.
It is not just you who experienced this.
With other tokens this happens too.
I got one with a lot of value last week but having a problem with the trading site so I cannot sell.
Then suddenly that value was depleted.
Came back to a price which is the same as just I gained it. Now, back to waiting game.
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if there is a great opportunity i'm usually selling all my assets, and re-buying at lower price
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no .. i'm still a beginner still have a lot to learn first about bitcoin let no one to cheat me
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I don't think betting all in is a good idea. It's said you have to wait, but in these circumstances it's just a waiting game. Hope everything'll be all right and you get your money back without any losses
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I am a beginner, have nothing in hand, do not understand much about the market and the inherent knowledge of the market. If there is a great job opportunities to myself I will It's tight and it's hard to figure out who's cheating on me.
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Never done it so far. I always divide my bankroll in trading because I have to prepare for unexpected thing. I will use no more than 50% of my bankroll, while the other 50% is to prepare if the first trade is not going as expected. Doing all in is indeed may give a great profit but it may give a bad result as well if we choose the wrong coin. So I would prefer to be safe than sorry, it will be bad situation for me if I do all in but it is not on the right coin at the right time.

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I think many people go all in with bitcoin but anything can go good or bad so I'm just 50/50.
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