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August 28, 2013, 02:23:20 PM
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That's what I thought but then last night I checked the update and they were only on feb 2nd.  So they supposedly worked all weekend and then all day yesterday and only moved like 2 days on the jalapeños.

For January they were moving 7-10 days in 1 single day, so I'm not sure what happened.

It's likely due to volume of orders on paydate. Lots of folks presume march/april was the biggest rise in orders, and that could be the case, but nobody knows the actual volume of orders by paydate. BFL claims despite what seems to be slow progress by day, the volume itself was more than prior.

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I didn't even order a rig or single or little single or anything, but just seeing how slow they're progressing makes me cringe... Also makes me think either very few were ordered, or they're hitting some sort of limit when trying to push things out the door.

It's nice they show the paydate being processed.. but they really should also show unit count as well. There's nothing to be hurt by doing so, but by hiding the count they're just increasing speculation. It would also be nice to be able to see any rise or fall in volume of products shipped and volume of supplies purchased in comparison to new money coming in (ie, the Monarch preorder).


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August 28, 2013, 02:36:21 PM
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Does anyone have the names of the CEO and COO "fullnames"? Whats inaba name? Josh Zerlan, who is the other guy? Sonny Vleisides 
Whats the registered company adress and whats the adress of  their facility?

I need as much  informations as possible. I had a very very good phone conservation with kansas general attorny. I need as much informations as you guys can provide me. (got scammed out of 25k)

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August 28, 2013, 02:41:41 PM
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The only thing I know is that many thought a year ago BFL would have raised the difficulty unreasonably high IF they got their devices out.....nothing is fully set in the Bitcoin world! Wink

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August 28, 2013, 03:01:04 PM
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Does anyone have the names of the CEO and COO "fullnames"? Whats inaba name? Josh Zerlan, who is the other guy? Sonny Vleisides 
Whats the registered company adress and whats the adress of  their facility?

I need as much  informations as possible. I had a very very good phone conservation with kansas general attorny. I need as much informations as you guys can provide me. (got scammed out of 25k)

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August 28, 2013, 03:07:17 PM
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August 28, 2013, 03:16:09 PM
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Does anyone have the names of the CEO and COO "fullnames"? Whats inaba name? Josh Zerlan, who is the other guy? Sonny Vleisides 
Whats the registered company adress and whats the adress of  their facility?

I need as much  informations as possible. I had a very very good phone conservation with kansas general attorny. I need as much informations as you guys can provide me. (got scammed out of 25k)

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August 28, 2013, 04:12:20 PM
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I'm surprised nobody has shown up at their doorstep or houses yet. I mean, honestly, their physical/location security must be off the charts. Nobody's thought of stealing equipment? It's not like it can be easily tracked when it's hashing somewhere in the world.

I'm truly surprised nobody--who feels strong enough to get high level lawyers involved--has simply decided to go over there, pound doors down, and take their equipment. Not advocating that.. just saying, I'm surprised.

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August 28, 2013, 04:18:36 PM
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I'm surprised nobody has shown up at their doorstep or houses yet. I mean, honestly, their physical/location security must be off the charts. Nobody's thought of stealing equipment? It's not like it can be easily tracked when it's hashing somewhere in the world.

I'm truly surprised nobody--who feels strong enough to get high level lawyers involved--has simply decided to go over there, pound doors down, and take their equipment. Not advocating that.. just saying, I'm surprised.


Dude, I think you just gave someone an idea.  It's like stealing $5 million if you get your hands on those mini rigs.

A gang of Asians broke into OKI when I was working there a long time ago and stole something like over $5 million in dram.  Of course a stick of dram at the time was over $500.

This is even better cause this goose keeps laying golden eggs and you don't have to sell this gear, you just use it to mine.  Man, talk about a setback for us - I seriously doubt their security is that good. 

OKI had an armed guard too and it was pointless as they hit us on a Saturday and tied up every employee there and got away. 

I hope you didn't just give Josh and Sonny a clever idea.  Lol


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August 28, 2013, 04:31:31 PM
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Does anyone have the names of the CEO and COO "fullnames"? Whats inaba name? Josh Zerlan, who is the other guy? Sonny Vleisides 
Whats the registered company adress and whats the adress of  their facility?

I need as much  informations as possible. I had a very very good phone conservation with kansas general attorny. I need as much informations as you guys can provide me. (got scammed out of 25k)

Their site claims they are incorporated in Wyoming.  Looks like they were registered in Missouri as well at some point.

http://opencorporates.com/companies/us_wy/2011-000606261
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August 28, 2013, 04:36:49 PM
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I'm surprised nobody has shown up at their doorstep or houses yet. I mean, honestly, their physical/location security must be off the charts. Nobody's thought of stealing equipment? It's not like it can be easily tracked when it's hashing somewhere in the world.

I'm truly surprised nobody--who feels strong enough to get high level lawyers involved--has simply decided to go over there, pound doors down, and take their equipment. Not advocating that.. just saying, I'm surprised.

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RIOT!!!! haha

Everyone should sue for anything they can recover if your order is a 2013 order cause the likely hood of getting ANYTHING is next to nothing haha. My order says fulfilled now but i have nothing! No tracking number, No e-mail! Just a notice saying my July 19 (actually ordered 17 but they 'moved' it to 19) which jodys blog only says upto 16th!!!

BFL are a joke and one of, if not the worst company i have ever dealt with. Josh is also one of the worst people i have had to deal with. There is not a honest bone in BFL!
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August 28, 2013, 05:46:25 PM
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I'm surprised nobody has shown up at their doorstep or houses yet. I mean, honestly, their physical/location security must be off the charts. Nobody's thought of stealing equipment? It's not like it can be easily tracked when it's hashing somewhere in the world.

I'm truly surprised nobody--who feels strong enough to get high level lawyers involved--has simply decided to go over there, pound doors down, and take their equipment. Not advocating that.. just saying, I'm surprised.


Dude, I think you just gave someone an idea.  It's like stealing $5 million if you get your hands on those mini rigs.

A gang of Asians broke into OKI when I was working there a long time ago and stole something like over $5 million in dram.  Of course a stick of dram at the time was over $500.

This is even better cause this goose keeps laying golden eggs and you don't have to sell this gear, you just use it to mine.  Man, talk about a setback for us - I seriously doubt their security is that good.  

OKI had an armed guard too and it was pointless as they hit us on a Saturday and tied up every employee there and got away.  

I hope you didn't just give Josh and Sonny a clever idea.  Lol

LOL.. I've thought for awhile, I wonder if anyone has thought of just taking equipment. Here's something not quite as bad: Taking equipment and leaving them money for the MSRP of it  Cheesy

Who's to say this hasn't happened (in some form coughbackdoordealscough or another) already, and they're just mum about it. It's truly probably one of the better crimes out there because there's no way to track the equipment when it's hashing, so you'd just need to not be tied to the crime itself.

I mean.. imagine if one of the workers smuggled out one component at a time.. they'd have free hash power...

Who knows, maybe this would be the plot of some future direct-to-TV movie LOL

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August 28, 2013, 05:47:58 PM
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I'm surprised nobody has shown up at their doorstep or houses yet. I mean, honestly, their physical/location security must be off the charts. Nobody's thought of stealing equipment? It's not like it can be easily tracked when it's hashing somewhere in the world.

I'm truly surprised nobody--who feels strong enough to get high level lawyers involved--has simply decided to go over there, pound doors down, and take their equipment. Not advocating that.. just saying, I'm surprised.


Dude, I think you just gave someone an idea.  It's like stealing $5 million if you get your hands on those mini rigs.

A gang of Asians broke into OKI when I was working there a long time ago and stole something like over $5 million in dram.  Of course a stick of dram at the time was over $500.

This is even better cause this goose keeps laying golden eggs and you don't have to sell this gear, you just use it to mine.  Man, talk about a setback for us - I seriously doubt their security is that good. 

OKI had an armed guard too and it was pointless as they hit us on a Saturday and tied up every employee there and got away. 

I hope you didn't just give Josh and Sonny a clever idea.  Lol

LOL.. I've thought for awhile, I wonder if anyone has thought of just taking equipment. Here's something not quite as bad: Taking equipment and leaving them money for the MSRP of it  Cheesy

Who's to say this hasn't happened (in some form coughbackdoordealscough or another) already, and they're just mum about it. It's truly probably one of the better crimes out there because there's no way to track the equipment when it's hashing, so you'd just need to not be tied to the crime itself.

Who knows, maybe this would be the plot of some future direct-to-TV movie LOL

No joke man.  It's bound to happen. It's an easy job to pull off and millions to make.  I'm shocked it hasn't happend already.


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August 28, 2013, 06:17:41 PM
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You could just rob the USPS truck after everything was just loaded and left BFL. Not advocating this but this would be easiest as you only have to deal with one USPS employee, and all the presents are wrapped already. I am in no way advocating this illegal activity and do not condone, recommend, suggest these acts.

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August 28, 2013, 06:25:58 PM
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You could just rob the USPS truck after everything was just loaded and left BFL. Not advocating this but this would be easiest as you only have to deal with one USPS employee, and all the presents are wrapped already. I am in no way advocating this illegal activity and do not condone, recommend, suggest these acts.

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August 28, 2013, 06:28:25 PM
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18 USC § 1708 - Theft or receipt of stolen mail matter generally

Felony resulting in 5 years in jail.

If you think a tiny little postal truck full of BFL crap at this late stage of the game is worth 5 years in jail, then I hope to get away with it because 5 years in the Federal pen ain't no tip toe through the tulips.


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August 28, 2013, 06:35:48 PM
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18 USC § 1708 - Theft or receipt of stolen mail matter generally

Felony resulting in 5 years in jail.

If you think a tiny little postal truck full of BFL crap at this late stage of the game is worth 5 years in jail, then I hope to get away with it because 5 years in the Federal pen ain't no tip toe through the tulips.


Oh but maybe 5years in "the pen" wouldnt be so bad, knowing that you have terahashes mining away and your forced to hold your coins...
Hmmm rich or broke. with 5years if caught. Hmmm is the gamble worth it....

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August 28, 2013, 07:01:36 PM
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Yeah you'd  be better off blitzing the place. Use a ram-bar on the back of a truck, back it up through the wall or the door, and just toss everything you can into the bed of the truck for about 60 seconds--or just what makes your order, and then leave.

Here's something I made for kicks, hopefully it lightens the mood somewhat..


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August 28, 2013, 07:06:26 PM
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Yeah you'd  be better off blitzing the place. Use a ram-bar on the back of a truck, back it up through the wall or the door, and just toss everything you can into the bed of the truck for about 60 seconds--or just what makes your order, and then leave.

Here's something I made for kicks, hopefully it lightens the mood somewhat..



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Funny thing is, i know someone who ordered KNC and they had a e-mail saying his will be delivered mid September! Unlike most, i have NO reason to think ORSOC are a cowboy company like BFL, Quite the opposite!

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August 28, 2013, 07:13:01 PM
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Yeah you'd  be better off blitzing the place. Use a ram-bar on the back of a truck, back it up through the wall or the door, and just toss everything you can into the bed of the truck for about 60 seconds--or just what makes your order, and then leave.

Here's something I made for kicks, hopefully it lightens the mood somewhat..



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August 28, 2013, 08:37:31 PM
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You could just rob the USPS truck after everything was just loaded and left BFL. Not advocating this but this would be easiest as you only have to deal with one USPS employee, and all the presents are wrapped already. I am in no way advocating this illegal activity and do not condone, recommend, suggest these acts.


Ahahhahahaaa.

Looks like everyone's mind is on the same page.

It's BFL's fault for holding back our gear. 

Wait until Bitcoin hits $1,000.  We're gonna see an alt coin crime spree.


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