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November 23, 2013, 09:01:24 PM
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I believe the tactic used by BFL, is to keep the hardware off the hands of the people, for as long as possible. Once the difficulty level rises high enough, most of us won't be able to afford the the mining equipment, anymore. If that happens, they own it, it's just like any other "gold rush". Those with excavators, will muscle out those with shovels.

I don't believe, they are unable keep up with the demand. I think, we finance it, they make, and they use it for as long as they can. Once the hardware becomes near obsolete, they might ship some of it the customers. We know, they own a large mining farm, that's where the hardware goes first.

It's a large scale rocket, I'm sure they broke every law, and regulation in the book by now.

It is time, to make it public, and rise our voices. I think it might be a right time to talk to District Attorneys.

What really is an organized crime? Give me a definition.
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November 24, 2013, 12:31:41 PM
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November 24, 2013, 12:40:03 PM
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I believe the tactic used by BFL, is to keep the hardware off the hands of the people, for as long as possible. Once the difficulty level rises high enough, most of us won't be able to afford the the mining equipment, anymore. If that happens, they own it, it's just like any other "gold rush". Those with excavators, will muscle out those with shovels.

I don't believe, they are unable keep up with the demand. I think, we finance it, they make, and they use it for as long as they can. Once the hardware becomes near obsolete, they might ship some of it the customers. We know, they own a large mining farm, that's where the hardware goes first.

It's a large scale rocket, I'm sure they broke every law, and regulation in the book by now.

It is time, to make it public, and rise our voices. I think it might be a right time to talk to District Attorneys.

What really is an organized crime? Give me a definition.
You realize BFL have shipped the mini rigs up to the June 2013 to  Nov 2013 orders?

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/


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Friday, November 22, 2013 Shipping Update
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, 11-23-2013 at 11:44 AM

    Jalapenos 5 gh/s: May 30, 2013

    Little Singles 25 gh/s and 30 Upgrades: July 3, 2013

    Single 50 gh/s and 60 Upgrades: June 19, 2013 pay date

    MiniRigs: All June 2012-November 2013 MiniRig orders complete.


So they have prioritized the large hash rate orders.



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November 24, 2013, 12:40:42 PM
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Where is your Monarch order Erk?

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November 24, 2013, 12:41:34 PM
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Where is your Monarch order Erk?
Why would I order a Monarch? Didn't you read any of my posts in this thread? Feb 2014 gear is not going to make ROI unless something turns the tide.

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November 24, 2013, 12:43:36 PM
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Where is your Monarch order Erk?
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Why would anyone? Considering the earliest it could be available is MARCH according to their own timeline when you count up all the weeks or the disclaimer of 3 months or more... better still the ALL SALES ARE FINAL. Also have they TAPED OUT?

Still no word.

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November 25, 2013, 03:39:14 AM
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Has BFL Taped Out?


Guess not. Still 17 weeks to go if you order today. 4 months and 2 weeks to wait. April? Wow.


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November 27, 2013, 11:42:54 AM
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Has BFL Taped Out?


Guess not. Still 17 weeks to go if you order today. 4 months and 2 weeks to wait. April? Wow.



yeah old 28 nm technology ... if KNC shipped 20 nm

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November 27, 2013, 12:11:37 PM
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Has BFL Taped Out?


Guess not. Still 17 weeks to go if you order today. 4 months and 2 weeks to wait. April? Wow.


Nice to see you're still doing the daily advertising.  Keep up the good work!

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January 11, 2014, 09:09:45 PM
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here is a video i found, donno if it was posted on the fourms yet


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd-GbG2WmW0

shows the monarch ( lolsure )

and a new hardware based wallet


It shows 480 btc on it, wonder if that real, i remember seeing someone on the forums who sued them and won, and now in-process of finding there assets, mabye help?
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January 11, 2014, 11:11:16 PM
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here is a video i found, donno if it was posted on the fourms yet


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd-GbG2WmW0

shows the monarch ( lolsure )

and a new hardware based wallet


It shows 480 btc on it, wonder if that real, i remember seeing someone on the forums who sued them and won, and now in-process of finding there assets, mabye help?

Those boards they show are no further along in design/production as the ones they showed when they first announced the board. There are no traces on those boards, they are just pieces of green fiberglass with non-working components glued to them. Pretty slick. They can make it look like they have a "prototype", when in fact it could simply be a bunch of random electronic components that have nothing to do with bitcoin mining cards.



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January 12, 2014, 04:01:21 AM
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I believe the tactic used by BFL, is to keep the hardware off the hands of the people, for as long as possible. Once the difficulty level rises high enough, most of us won't be able to afford the the mining equipment, anymore. If that happens, they own it, it's just like any other "gold rush". Those with excavators, will muscle out those with shovels.

I don't believe, they are unable keep up with the demand. I think, we finance it, they make, and they use it for as long as they can. Once the hardware becomes near obsolete, they might ship some of it the customers. We know, they own a large mining farm, that's where the hardware goes first.

It's a large scale rocket, I'm sure they broke every law, and regulation in the book by now.

It is time, to make it public, and rise our voices. I think it might be a right time to talk to District Attorneys.

What really is an organized crime? Give me a definition.
You realize BFL have shipped the mini rigs up to the June 2013 to  Nov 2013 orders?

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/


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Friday, November 22, 2013 Shipping Update
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BFL_Jody
, 11-23-2013 at 11:44 AM

    Jalapenos 5 gh/s: May 30, 2013

    Little Singles 25 gh/s and 30 Upgrades: July 3, 2013

    Single 50 gh/s and 60 Upgrades: June 19, 2013 pay date

    MiniRigs: All June 2012-November 2013 MiniRig orders complete.


So they have prioritized the large hash rate orders.

It's like you've forgotten that they were 8 months late and WAY off specifications when the BFL ASIC's started shipping.
All while knowingly giving false advertisements <- illegal
And "all sales final" on something that is actually an investment order for vapourware that doesnt pay dividends or shares untill the object is created? That's not legal, an Order is not a Sale, no physical product ever changed hands, therefore there was no sale, not to mention that every 30days, you need to get permission to keep the Pre-order funds from the buyer, if you are unable to make contact after that time period, you must return/refund the money!, it's part of the FTC laws!

Fuck sakes! Stop defending such a crooked company!

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January 12, 2014, 06:40:56 AM
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here is a video i found, donno if it was posted on the fourms yet


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd-GbG2WmW0

shows the monarch ( lolsure )

and a new hardware based wallet


It shows 480 btc on it, wonder if that real, i remember seeing someone on the forums who sued them and won, and now in-process of finding there assets, mabye help?

Those boards they show are no further along in design/production as the ones they showed when they first announced the board. There are no traces on those boards, they are just pieces of green fiberglass with non-working components glued to them. Pretty slick. They can make it look like they have a "prototype", when in fact it could simply be a bunch of random electronic components that have nothing to do with bitcoin mining cards.





If you are about to buy this DO NOT.
If you bought knowing the history of BFL you deserve to lose heavily on that investment.

April / May now is more likely on these if not Q3 or Q4 given how the last pre-orders went. Insanity.

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January 12, 2014, 05:11:10 PM
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Why would anyone buy from BFL when KNC is delivering and delivering superior product and on time.

This is madness.


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January 12, 2014, 05:53:31 PM
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here is a video i found, donno if it was posted on the fourms yet


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd-GbG2WmW0

shows the monarch ( lolsure )

and a new hardware based wallet


It shows 480 btc on it, wonder if that real, i remember seeing someone on the forums who sued them and won, and now in-process of finding there assets, mabye help?

Those boards they show are no further along in design/production as the ones they showed when they first announced the board. There are no traces on those boards, they are just pieces of green fiberglass with non-working components glued to them. Pretty slick. They can make it look like they have a "prototype", when in fact it could simply be a bunch of random electronic components that have nothing to do with bitcoin mining cards.





If you are about to buy this DO NOT.
If you bought knowing the history of BFL you deserve to lose heavily on that investment.

April / May now is more likely on these if not Q3 or Q4 given how the last pre-orders went. Insanity.
I'd ask you if you wanted to put your mney where your mouth is, but you've already welched once and are likely to do so again.

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January 12, 2014, 09:49:16 PM
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I'll just leave this here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412586.0

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January 12, 2014, 11:21:12 PM
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they will not delivery on time.. they are fucking bastards!

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January 13, 2014, 12:07:02 AM
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Some shots of the cards with different cooling options.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd-GbG2WmW0
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January 13, 2014, 12:24:01 AM
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they will not delivery on time.. they are fucking bastards!



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January 13, 2014, 12:34:35 AM
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BFL BULLSHIT FUCKING LABS NO WAY THEY WILL DO ANYTHING THEY SAY.. I GOT MY JALLY ON JAN 10th I BOUGHT IT JULY 1st FUCK THEM. FINISHED SHIPPING IN DECEMBER MY ASS

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