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February 27, 2014, 03:51:57 PM |
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Did you guys break the handle on your pump? What's happening day traders are whats happening free market is happening
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mikemikemike
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February 27, 2014, 04:10:47 PM |
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Did you guys break the handle on your pump? What's happening day traders are whats happening free market is happening this isn't as much a free market as a few serious players making allot of money very quickly playing the resistance and support levels
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February 27, 2014, 04:27:18 PM |
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Did you guys break the handle on your pump? What's happening day traders are whats happening free market is happening this isn't as much a free market as a few serious players making allot of money very quickly playing the resistance and support levels That is part of a free market innit?
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February 27, 2014, 04:27:28 PM |
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I guess the dumping of shares is related to the news about half of the shares not being sold... and the fear to a future bunch of IPO-price-shares, maybe?
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February 27, 2014, 04:27:48 PM |
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February 27, 2014, 04:33:57 PM |
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I understand all that about 5.000.000 shares unsold, and all the free market stuff... but, isn't the quarter ending, and a great first dividend coming soon to holders? Perhaps I'm missing something important, but....
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February 27, 2014, 04:36:35 PM |
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First dividend? There were profits?
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February 27, 2014, 04:37:26 PM |
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First dividend? There were profits? I'm not sure, and of course I assume that maybe not enough yet, but the opening was great, and it's just a matter of time... the point is that only the first dividend was going to give 0.0035btc per share to compensate early investors, am I right? I'm long with Neo Bee, and I wouldn't want lose the train, with those dividends and all the future expectations, selling now to daytrade... (just my thought)
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February 27, 2014, 04:41:01 PM Last edit: February 27, 2014, 05:02:30 PM by Fabrizio89 |
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I guess the dumping of shares is related to the news about half of the shares not being sold... and the fear to a future bunch of IPO-price-shares, maybe?
Danny said those shares will be different in a couple of ways, starting from the initial dividend. So no, I don't think that's the reason at all. People are just cashing out their profits. IPO was at 0.003, many shares were sold for much less on Havelock since someone got out because he was scared or tired or just needed the money. So we are talking about a 80% or more profit, which is great anyway short term. the point is that only the first dividend was going to give 0.0035btc per share to compensate early investors, am I right? No, there's no way to know how much the first dividend will be. The 0.0035 is what they promised to pay to investors before retaining any profit for themselves.
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February 27, 2014, 04:45:47 PM Last edit: February 27, 2014, 05:19:44 PM by Herp |
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I guess the dumping of shares is related to the news about half of the shares not being sold... and the fear to a future bunch of IPO-price-shares, maybe?
Danny said those shares will be different in a couple of ways, starting from the initial dividend. So no, I don't think that's the reason at all. People are just cashing out their profits. IPO was at 0.003, many shares were sold for much less on Havelock since someone got out because he was scared or tired or just needed the money. So we are talking about a 80% or more profit, which is great anyway short term. He also said those remaining shares might not be sold in another IPO. I wouldn't be surprised most of them are sold or promised already. Tuur Demester was there in Cyprus attending the opening. I wouldn't be surprised to hear he bought a fat chunk of these. The launch also bought fat exposure to Neo. Now Erik Vorhees starts talking about it so wouldn't surprise me at all to see these guys investing in Neo, including some VCs. Bottomline here is, there won't be a second offering for those remaining shares most likely. I think they will be sold privately. Sure some short term profits are good but that's not how you make real money. Bitcoin was up 32x in 2013. Those who sold for 2x gain got screwed, same as with any high growth company. 2x gain is peanuts versus potential upside here. People selling for 2x gain now will feel like cutting their balls off few months from now.
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February 27, 2014, 04:57:06 PM |
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First dividend? There were profits? I'm not sure, and of course I assume that maybe not enough yet, but the opening was great, and it's just a matter of time... the point is that only the first dividend was going to give 0.0035btc per share to compensate early investors, am I right? I'm long with Neo Bee, and I wouldn't want lose the train, with those dividends and all the future expectations, selling now to daytrade... (just my thought) Thus far, NeoBee had nothing but expenses. It will take plenty of luck and plenty of time to become profitable. Expecting divs anytime soon is unreasonable. @Herp: If the signals are right, flippers will buy back at a slight loss. No cause for self-mutilation.
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February 27, 2014, 05:07:51 PM |
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The count of outstanding shares sold is 5,050,672 of the 16,000,000 that make up LMB Holdings as a whole.*
*These numbers are subject to future audit and can only be officially confirmed by LMB Holdings.
9,600,000 - 5,050,672 = 4,549,328 unsold public shares. That's almost half of all public shares in the IPO offering. That's what happens when the website selling shares doesn't work leading up to the deadline of when you can buy shares. The question that should be asked is how many shares WOULD HAVE sold had the website been working properly. I know from a personal perspective, I was planning on purchasing 10K or so, but could not.
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February 27, 2014, 05:12:14 PM |
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First dividend? There were profits? I'm not sure, and of course I assume that maybe not enough yet, but the opening was great, and it's just a matter of time... the point is that only the first dividend was going to give 0.0035btc per share to compensate early investors, am I right? I'm long with Neo Bee, and I wouldn't want lose the train, with those dividends and all the future expectations, selling now to daytrade... (just my thought) I wouldn't expected a dividend until at least another quarter. And the way I understood it was all profits will be paid towards original IPVO divs until .0035 per share is paid.
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Herp
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February 27, 2014, 05:14:00 PM |
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First dividend? There were profits? I'm not sure, and of course I assume that maybe not enough yet, but the opening was great, and it's just a matter of time... the point is that only the first dividend was going to give 0.0035btc per share to compensate early investors, am I right? I'm long with Neo Bee, and I wouldn't want lose the train, with those dividends and all the future expectations, selling now to daytrade... (just my thought) Thus far, NeoBee had nothing but expenses. It will take plenty of luck and plenty of time to become profitable. Expecting divs anytime soon is unreasonable. @Herp: If the signals are right, flippers will buy back at a slight loss. No cause for self-mutilation. The reception was much better than expected with plenty of merchants signing up to use Neo pos devices, many not even interested in converting the earnings to euros. As a bonus, due to a partnership, Neo effectively has dozens of locations throughout Cyprus allowing people to buy and sell Bitcoin. SoEasy Stores are kiosks (mini markets, convenience stores). They are the largest chain on the island with 40 stores and they will enable Neo wallet holders to buy bitcoins and sell them via a Bee terminal at every SoEasy location. This agreement essentially means that we now have 40 additional locations across the island where people can access our services and Bitcoin.
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February 27, 2014, 05:16:02 PM |
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I'm not going to dare to profit take at this point. I have a feeling I'd be buying back in at a loss later. Way to early. I believe with a little time this current share price will be a story we tell about how cheap they were back then lol. And I'm quite happy to wait for divs to return more than my original investment.
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February 27, 2014, 05:16:31 PM |
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I guess the dumping of shares is related to the news about half of the shares not being sold... and the fear to a future bunch of IPO-price-shares, maybe?
Danny said those shares will be different in a couple of ways, starting from the initial dividend. So no, I don't think that's the reason at all. People are just cashing out their profits. IPO was at 0.003, many shares were sold for much less on Havelock since someone got out because he was scared or tired or just needed the money. So we are talking about a 80% or more profit, which is great anyway short term. He also said those remaining shares might not be sold in another IPO. I wouldn't be surprised most of them are sold or promised already. Tuur Demester was there in Cyprus attending the opening. I wouldn't be surprised to hear he bought a fat chunk of these. The launch also bought fat exposure to Neo. Now Erik Vorhees starts talking about so wouldn't surprise me at all to see these guys investing in Neo, including some VCs. Bottomline here is, there won't be a second offering for those remaining shares most likely. I think they will be sold privately. Sure some short term profits are good but that's not how you make real money. Bitcoin was up 32x in 2013. Those who sold for 2x gain got screwed, same as with any high grow company. 2x gain is peanuts versus potential upside here. People selling for 2x gain now will feel like cutting their balls off few months from now. I agree, I am in for the long haul too, when I heard Danny on Lets talk bitcoin last year I knew this company was very legit and had potential to be a huge winner. I feel pulling out now would be like pulling on AM when it was 0.2. Also I just saw that Andreas Antonopoulos tweeted that he is technical advisor to Neo & Bee.
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February 27, 2014, 05:20:19 PM |
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Also I just saw that Andreas Antonopoulos tweeted that he is technical advisor to Neo & Bee.
That's very big news, IMO. I, for one, have not been impressed by the public-facing web tech of N&B. Having some big names like Antonopoulos attached to the behind-the-scenes tech adds some credibility.
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February 27, 2014, 05:22:29 PM |
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... Thus far, NeoBee had nothing but expenses. It will take plenty of luck and plenty of time to become profitable. Expecting divs anytime soon is unreasonable.
@Herp: If the signals are right, flippers will buy back at a slight loss. No cause for self-mutilation.
The reception was much better than expected with plenty of merchants signing up to use Neo pos devices, many not even interested in converting the earnings to euros. As a bonus, due to a partnership, Neo effectively has dozens of locations throughout Cyprus allowing people to buy and sell Bitcoin. ... Which part of my post do you disagree with, if any?
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February 27, 2014, 05:24:09 PM |
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... Thus far, NeoBee had nothing but expenses. It will take plenty of luck and plenty of time to become profitable. Expecting divs anytime soon is unreasonable.
@Herp: If the signals are right, flippers will buy back at a slight loss. No cause for self-mutilation.
The reception was much better than expected with plenty of merchants signing up to use Neo pos devices, many not even interested in converting the earnings to euros. As a bonus, due to a partnership, Neo effectively has dozens of locations throughout Cyprus allowing people to buy and sell Bitcoin. ... Which part of my post do you disagree with, if any? slight loss
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February 27, 2014, 05:26:34 PM |
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Also I just saw that Andreas Antonopoulos tweeted that he is technical advisor to Neo & Bee.
That's very big news, IMO. I, for one, have not been impressed by the public-facing web tech of N&B. Having some big names like Antonopoulos attached to the behind-the-scenes tech adds some credibility. Wow. This is great news! https://twitter.com/aantonop/status/439074263002128384
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