Official BITMINE CoinCraft series 28nm ASIC miners thread

[zadehmehdi]

My lawyer told me they probably will go to JAIL ^^ because of tax fraud (Steuerhinterziehung)

They earn bitcoins and sell them and don´t pay any taxes. Thats fraud BIG STYLE friends.

So i made a notification to ESTV (swiss tax agency). -> sd@estv.admin.ch

the MORE PEOPLE tell them that Christian Anselmi and Giorgio Massarotto are tax frauders the FASTER THEY DO GUYS, they will check them ^^

Thank you @Alex27!

I filed a complaint at the email address provided.  I HIGHLY encourage everyone on this forum to do the same.  If they have not paid taxes on their earnings in any currency (cash or bitcoin) this is the probably the best way for us to get the government involved with this fraudulent company. 

ESTV (swiss tax agency) -> sd@estv.admin.ch

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[Alex27]

YEAH THAT`S THE CASE I THINK!!

Tax Agencies are the EVIL SPIRITS of our time. So let EVIL work for US FRIENDS ^^

FILE TAX FRAUD (STEUERHINTERZIEHUNG)

sd@estv.admin.ch

the MORE THE BETTER THE FASTER

[lemeper]

@Alex & zadehmehdi

I also sent them a message about the Tax Fraud in german .

Here's the text, feel free to us it to also send a complain (the more the better and the sooner they'll get what they deserve -> jail!)
Maybe they'll react faster if it's in german.

To: sd@estv.admin.ch

Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren

Ich möchte Sie dringlichst darauf Hinweisen, dass die Firm Bitmine AG, mit Firmensitz im Tessin, mit sehr hoher Wahrscheinlichkeit Steuerhinterziehung im grossen Stil begeht.

Diese Firma hat sich darauf spezialisiert mit sogenannten "Bitcoins" (eine Internetwährung) zu Handeln. Diese Bitcoins kaufen oder generieren Sie und verkaufen Sie weiter gegen Geld (reales Geld).
Diese Aktionen laufen alle 'hintendurch' und werden definitiv nicht dem Steueramt gemeldet, weder das Vermögen noch der Ertrag aus diesen Transaktionen!
Der Transfer von Bitcoins von einer Partei zu einer anderen ist ausserdem öffentlich einsehbar ,es wurden bereits mehrere Bitcoins im Wert von mehreren Hunderttausend Franken zu unbekannten Parteien "verschoben" von dieser Firma.

Die Firmeninhaber Christian Anselmi und Giorgio Massarotto sind schon von früher bekannt, nicht saubere Geschäfte gemacht zu haben.

Ich empfehle Ihnen sehr diese Firma genauer unter die Lupe zu nehmen.

Freundliche Grüsse

*Your Name*
 

ESTV (swiss tax agency) -> sd@estv.admin.ch

[Alex27]

Oh thats very good ^^ but maybe we shouldn´t spam them with same type Messages. Better everybody writes it on its own.

+ maybe the next guys should add MONEY LAUNDERING (GELDWÄSCHE)

because as you wrote they sent Money/BTC to other nations, other People, criminals, terrorists, Mafia, that could be the case and i think a case for swiss public atorney´s Office (Staatsanwaltschaft)

[zadehmehdi]

Hi Everyone,

This is Bitmine BTC address: https://blockchain.info/address/19ChCimAiz8Az8P1KdLeaiQ8ZZw12Vuw4r.  As you can see they are even cheating the system by double spending.  These people are criminals and hope that they go to jail ASAP.  Please make sure you share this anyone you know that is did or thinking about doing business with them.  Be warned now, this operation was setup as a scam from the beginning to steal money, don't pay any taxes, and try to avoid any kind recourse for these crimes.  It's really sad actually.  They are the scum and low-lives. 

https://i.imgur.com/My83de1.jpg

[jeycreative]

a lot of people are going to court, this is a good sign.
i will have some more news to give in March about my case. Hang on !!

I'll give you the contact of my Swiss Italian lawyer if we are successful.

[thomas_s]

Hi Everyone,

This is Bitmine BTC address: https://blockchain.info/address/19ChCimAiz8Az8P1KdLeaiQ8ZZw12Vuw4r.  As you can see they are even cheating the system by double spending.  These people are criminals and hope that they go to jail ASAP.  Please make sure you share this anyone you know that is did or thinking about doing business with them.  Be warned now, this operation was setup as a scam from the beginning to steal money, don't pay any taxes, and try to avoid any kind recourse for these crimes.  It's really sad actually.  They are the scum and low-lives. 

Actually that note for double spend is because of newly generated coins, blockchain.info will put that warning for anyone getting direct payouts from mining (like p2pool payouts).

[zadehmehdi]

@thomas_s

Oh I didn't know that.  Thank you for telling me this.  But look how much they have received and the final balance now.  They are trying to spend the bitcoins, probably converting it to cash, and running without paying any taxes.  This should be the major issue here.  These scumbags are like Mark Karpeles of Mt. Gox and so many individuals like myself have lost their money believing the crap they keep saying.  They should go to jail for these crimes.

[thomas_s]

@thomas_s

Oh I didn't know that.  Thank you for telling me this.  But look how much they have received and the final balance now.  They are trying to spend the bitcoins, probably converting it to cash, and running without paying any taxes.  This should be the major issue here.  These scumbags are like Mark Karpeles of Mt. Gox and so many individuals like myself have lost their money believing the crap they keep saying.  They should go to jail for these crimes.

I have an order with them, not saying anything but the reason for the double spend warning.

Also if I'm not mistaken I think that address was the address they also send refunds from, the payout id xxx is what refund id they sent. (This could be wrong but I believe they or someone posted it somewhere).

Mine to address then send refund (is how its supposed to go).

[Tinua]

@thomas_s

Oh I didn't know that.  Thank you for telling me this.  But look how much they have received and the final balance now.  They are trying to spend the bitcoins, probably converting it to cash, and running without paying any taxes.  This should be the major issue here.  These scumbags are like Mark Karpeles of Mt. Gox and so many individuals like myself have lost their money believing the crap they keep saying.  They should go to jail for these crimes.

I have an order with them, not saying anything but the reason for the double spend warning.

Also if I'm not mistaken I think that address was the address they also send refunds from, the payout id xxx is what refund id they sent. (This could be wrong but I believe they or someone posted it somewhere).

Mine to address then send refund (is how its supposed to go).

You're right.
I get (got) my payouts from this adress (with payout id).

[jseppeli]

@thomas_s

Oh I didn't know that.  Thank you for telling me this.  But look how much they have received and the final balance now.  They are trying to spend the bitcoins, probably converting it to cash, and running without paying any taxes.  This should be the major issue here.  These scumbags are like Mark Karpeles of Mt. Gox and so many individuals like myself have lost their money believing the crap they keep saying.  They should go to jail for these crimes.

I have an order with them, not saying anything but the reason for the double spend warning.

Also if I'm not mistaken I think that address was the address they also send refunds from, the payout id xxx is what refund id they sent. (This could be wrong but I believe they or someone posted it somewhere).

Mine to address then send refund (is how its supposed to go).

You're right.
I get (got) my payouts from this adress (with payout id).

They also pay the cloudmining customers from that account.
Or actually paid until they stopped the cloud because of too low bitcoin value.

[zadehmehdi]

The main issues here are 1) they haven't paid their taxes that is required 2) the cloud mining is still operational even they use the excuse that bitcoin prices are too low to payout 3) this was coordinated plan to steal people's money when they knew it was impossible to deliver.  They are still making money from bitcoins they mine and aren't paying back they owe their customers.  These people are true scum and hopefully it will catch up to them sooner than later. 

[jseppeli]

2) the cloud mining is still operational even they use the excuse that bitcoin prices are too low to payout

Do you have any proof on this?
I truly believe that they have shut down their hardware. Their hardware is not energy efficient enough to have running with low bitcoin value and it would be just stupidity to keep a big 1,7PHs farm running on negative income for long.

[samsonn25]

And they will use that excuse again for the  next  2 weeks  if btc price doesnt rise and the  next  diff  jump rises again?

[zadehmehdi]

2) the cloud mining is still operational even they use the excuse that bitcoin prices are too low to payout

Do you have any proof on this?
I truly believe that they have shut down their hardware. Their hardware is not energy efficient enough to have running with low bitcoin value and it would be just stupidity to keep a big 1,7PHs farm running on negative income for long.

@jseppeli  

Are you an advocate for them?  I mean seriously these people have had excuses after excuses not to deliver.  They don't respond to emails and phone calls.  I have tried them at least 20 times both ways all during "business hours"  They have stolen money, not paid taxes, and most likely have left the country.  It's already apparent that they have left the country cause their mining operation is in Iceland.  This way can avoid the Swiss govt. when they come after them for tax evasion.  These people are criminals so if you want to advocate for them, then go right ahead.  Oh by the way if they truly shutdown their mining operation why is so many bitcoin transactions going to their bitcoin address still?  That's kind of interesting...isn't it?

[jseppeli]

2) the cloud mining is still operational even they use the excuse that bitcoin prices are too low to payout

Do you have any proof on this?
I truly believe that they have shut down their hardware. Their hardware is not energy efficient enough to have running with low bitcoin value and it would be just stupidity to keep a big 1,7PHs farm running on negative income for long.

@jseppeli  

Are you an advocate for them?  I mean seriously these people have had excuses after excuses not to deliver.  They don't respond to emails and phone calls.  I have tried them at least 20 times both ways all during "business hours"  They have stolen money, not paid taxes, and most likely have left the country.  It's already apparent that they have left the country cause their mining operation is in Iceland.  This way can avoid the Swiss govt. when they come after them for tax evasion.  These people are criminals so if you want to advocate for them, then go right ahead.  Oh by the way if they truly shutdown their mining operation why is so many bitcoin transactions going to their bitcoin address still?  That's kind of interesting...isn't it?

No I'm not an advocate for the.
They suspended their cloud 15.1 and after that there has been only 2 incoming transactions which both are most likely transactions for emptying their ghash account. And then they cashed out almost everything from thei wallet aswell.
For them it would be just plain stupidity to keep mining and cause more costs than they have incomes for.
I'm not any ways on their side but still I believe in that their cloud is for real suspended. Usually when they had their cloud active there was also for some reason some small hashes once in awhile on their eligius account. Now there has been no hash there since 15.1.

Now I'm with excitement waiting for that my cloud-contract ends. I'm quite sure they'll try to charge me for the costs during the time it has been suspended. I have all mails archived so they have to sue me if they try to get the money. Surely I'll dig out all the mails they've sent from early December 2013 and show them in court. Hopefully they'll lose bigtime then
What goes to that they have their cloud in Iceland. The electricity is cheaper there than in Switzerland and when they started their cloud in Iceland that meant that there was more money into their pockets when the maintenance fees for running the cloud was lower.

[samsonn25]

You do know it  is easy  to  point any miners or mining equipment  to a new wallet. Even an 8 year  old can do that.

[bitmine_scam]

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bitmine-Scam/819000581491052

They are scammers. If you want expect to recover your money, you need to open an action in Switzerland.

[defcon23]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=486808.msg10476099#msg10476099
any news 

[beerminer]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=486808.msg10476099#msg10476099
any news 

what do you expect? You should consider to activate a lawyer since this is the only chance to get some of your money back.. perhaps.

personally i think, everything is lost. btw. Mr. Massarotto wasnt here since last november.

this is a god damn shame.