Official BITMINE CoinCraft series 28nm ASIC miners thread

[Blisk]

read my post before I explained what exactly they do, on time or prepayed it is the same.

[tranquille]

You can't name a single hardware provider that hasn't been accused of being both.

KNC
There - I named one.

Do I really need to go dig up scam accusation quotes for you?

Did or did they not deliver in time? or at least manufacture in time and only had slight delays during shipout.
Have you been a customer of them?

Just because of some trolls posting garbage on the interwebs ....

And that was exactly my point.  This community has an abundance of trolls that make it unpleasant to post anything even slightly negative.  So it doesn't surprise me when companies go quiet while they sort out an appropriate response and presentation.

The point with bitmine is that such accusations never truly happened; until they made customers aware of a delay that was not reported in time!

[Daveb0]

The reason manufacturers are hesitant to report on errors and delays is due to the... unique personality of this community.  Everything is accused of being a scam or a conspiracy, regardless  of the levels of transparency and previous track record.  You can't name a single hardware provider that hasn't been accused of being both.  It can be argued that this is because we've never had an honest manufacturer, but somehow hardware is getting made and shipped so I have to doubt the accuracy of that assumption.

There will always be some users calling any given company scam and/or acusing them of mining with customers devices before selling them.
You can't really do something about this.

However you could care about the 95% of other customers who would truly appreciate more frequent and transparent communication.

[Cheshyr]

The point with bitmine is that such accusations never truly happened; until they made customers aware of a delay that was not reported in time!

That's fair.  I still don't see how reporting a delay late translates to scam or conspiracy, but I do agree that people have a right to be miffed.  Good thing they purchased parts under the CPP.

[Blisk]

The reason manufacturers are hesitant to report on errors and delays is due to the... unique personality of this community.  Everything is accused of being a scam or a conspiracy, regardless  of the levels of transparency and previous track record.  You can't name a single hardware provider that hasn't been accused of being both.  It can be argued that this is because we've never had an honest manufacturer, but somehow hardware is getting made and shipped so I have to doubt the accuracy of that assumption.

There will always be some users calling any given company scam and/or acusing them of mining with customers devices before selling them.
You can't really do something about this.

However you could care about the 95% of other customers who would truly appreciate more frequent and transparent communication.

Thank why hashrate of network rise so much month or maybe more than they really sends machines to you?
Network hashrate raise in delay timeframe!

And we all know people don't use PCs anymore for minig.

[tranquille]

The reason manufacturers are hesitant to report on errors and delays is due to the... unique personality of this community.  Everything is accused of being a scam or a conspiracy, regardless  of the levels of transparency and previous track record.  You can't name a single hardware provider that hasn't been accused of being both.  It can be argued that this is because we've never had an honest manufacturer, but somehow hardware is getting made and shipped so I have to doubt the accuracy of that assumption.

There will always be some users calling any given company scam and/or acusing them of mining with customers devices before selling them.
You can't really do something about this.

However you could care about the 95% of other customers who would truly appreciate more frequent and transparent communication.

That´s exactly what I thought and also asked them (bitmine) to improve several times.

Their bold statements of becoming the "best btc miner manufacturers" and rather "over-delivering" was simply unaccomplished unfortunately.

[Cheshyr]

However you could care about the 95% of other customers who would truly appreciate more frequent and transparent communication.

Ok, that's a fair point too.  It's difficult to tell sometimes, since this forum does get a bit enthusiatic (read: overbearing) when it comes requesting information updates.  I would like to hear something from BitMine as well, frankly.  I have some outstanding bits that I hope made it out before CNY.  It's just strange to me that people think aggressively pummeling their official thread is somehow going to encourage them to respond sooner.

[lossminer]

we are at a point where people should consider a class suit.

I mean there is no evidence that they ever planed delivering anything.
Somebody losing over 150 000$ due to the late delivery without any evidence at all that its just delayed. A lawyer should get into it and look if it's a clear fraud or just a delayed delivery resulting by many problems.

I agree, it is time to act

[tranquille]

we are at a point where people should consider a class suit.

I mean there is no evidence that they ever planed delivering anything.
Somebody losing over 150 000$ due to the late delivery without any evidence at all that its just delayed. A lawyer should get into it and look if it's a clear fraud or just a delayed delivery resulting by many problems.

I think they did and do want to deliver; BUT - opportunity makes thieves.

I myself have seen it with Avalon (it was shown that they did mine in a huge manner as some fat wallets were clearly associated with them).

The more time passes without hearing clear statements from bitmine the more likely it is for me that they are not acting in a honest manner.

I for myself am definitely not satisfied by the mere explanation of a 3 week delay of chips by the manufacturer plus some vague problems with their multi-layered pcbs.

[tvskit]

BITMINE,
where is my CoinCraft Desk 1 TH/s? I paid 56BTC for CoinCraft Desk 1 TH/s. Bring back my 56BTC. How the question shipping to Russia and on the territory of Russia? WTF???    

All I propose!!! In all forums in all languages BITMINE declare a SCAM. There is a suspicion that they're in cahoots with 50BTC. They are silent and does not answer questions. While not return the money or equipment(+100% minimum) to consider them SCAM.

We are waiting for an official answer to every user!

[Cheshyr]

Sigh.  Here we go again.  Good luck guys.  Let me know when it's over.

[websmith]

All I propose!!! In all forums in all languages BITMINE declare a SCAM. ....

We are waiting for an official answer to every user!

and what? Will you get your asic using such way? What is the goal?

[tvskit]

All I propose!!! In all forums in all languages BITMINE declare a SCAM. ....

We are waiting for an official answer to every user!

and what? Will you get your asic using such way? What is the goal?

       
alert other users of orders BITMINE

[Gator-hex]

All I propose!!! In all forums in all languages BITMINE declare a SCAM. ....

We are waiting for an official answer to every user!

and what? Will you get your asic using such way? What is the goal?

       
alert other users of orders BITMINE

Scammers don't usually give you their name and address
http://who.is/whois/bitmine.ch
or put their face up on Youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQY3Y8shBY8

The chips have been received and tested by a third party.
They ran at a little over 30GH rather than 40GH.
If there is a 25% shortfall they should just get units out and give 25% store credit off the next purchase in my opinion.
Turning a problem into a way to drive more sales.

[tvskit]

Usually normal companies meet its customers!!! To my letter of reply waiting for a month already. Is this normal? Where the answers to questions? THERE ARE MANY QUESTIONS!!!

A oни зaбили нa нac X...Й
(пepeвeдитe этo ктo нибyдь пpaвильнo)
(translate that someone correctly)

[georgem]

The chips have been received and tested by a third party.
They ran at a little over 30GH rather than 40GH.
If there is a 25% shortfall they should just get units out and give 25% store credit off the next purchase in my opinion.
Turning a problem into a way to drive more sales.

Sounds very reasonable to me. Let's see what they say.

If turbo mode is not at all possible, some form of discount has to be given, or the order is null and void.

[Cheshyr]

Nominal is 25GHs.  40GHs was never guaranteed for all chips.  That said, we've seen greater than 30GHs on engineering sample chips.  Production grade chips generally perform better.

[georgem]

Nominal is 25GHs.  40GHs was never guaranteed for all chips.  That said, we've seen greater than 30GHs on engineering sample chips.  Production grade chips generally perform better.

Their advertizing is for a +50% turbomode. Look it up, still what they write in the specifications.

[RetroGamer]

I hate the song but it fits so good, RetroGamer, sorry for that!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNnqjbojqjE

Shall I send you my documents folder Newbie?

[georgem]

Shall I send you my documents folder Newbie?

Wow, that's the fiercest threat I heard in my whole life. Please don't!! You'll devastate him!