Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s

[bobsag3]

What is the difference between Prospero X-1 and Minion? Minion is just the chip?

Yup.

[eXme]

your miners CE and if you ship to the Germany are you going to ship it with U energy adaptor?

[jochemin]

I live in Spain and I'm going to buy 1 próspero X-3. It's possible an invoice with lower price to pay less customs?

[FlappySocks]

I live in Spain and I'm going to buy 1 próspero X-3. It's possible an invoice with lower price to pay less customs?

Absolutely NOT!  Last thing we need is problems at customs.

[MANofthePEOPLE]

FYI: bitfury boards are now in stock.

https://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/40ghash-16x-bitfury-hashing-board.html

Doh I didn't add a Controller board to my order (required).

Matt, can you add that to my order please.  #3228
Thanks.

The bitfury is needed for the x-3? This is why I'm hoping it will sell out so I can sell my pre-order, I have no idea what I'm doing lol 

[FlappySocks]

The bitfury is needed for the x-3?

Nope. This is something different.

[MANofthePEOPLE]

FYI: bitfury boards are now in stock.

https://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/40ghash-16x-bitfury-hashing-board.html

Doh I didn't add a Controller board to my order (required).

Matt, can you add that to my order please.  #3228
Thanks.

The bitfury is needed for the x-3? This is why I'm hoping it will sell out so I can sell my pre-order, I have no idea what I'm doing lol 

did you pre-order an X-3?  Are orders able to be transferred? Not sure if anything has been put out about transferring order or not?

I did, yes. Not sure about the transfer. There is a cross-box whether to ship to the same adress or not on the site. I sent a PM to Matt and Bob asking about it. Bob said it might be possible but Matt haven't responded yet.

[Carlton Banks]

It would be interesting to hear if the recent PBOC rumours/FUD has affected the direct wires to Black Arrow? Obviously, bitcoin network to the rescue if there's any effect, but would that not still cause problems at Black Arrow's end? I doubt that their development and manufacturing costs are conducted in USD, so this is an interesting test of the actual impact of all of this (my expectation is that this will prove it all to be FUD, it makes little sense that Chinese state would have changed it's mind on bitcoin/cryptocurrency so abruptly after it spent alot of effort cultivating it with the Chinese public, it seems like it will be written off as a misunderstanding)

[jerem2398]

Blackarrow did not want to reveal the founders of the company, which I suppose is understandable. Bobsag when you went over there did you get to meet the whole team? Just curious cause generally when I spend a large amount on a purchase I like to have an Idea of at least one person who is associated or involved in the group.

[bobsag3]

Blackarrow did not want to reveal the founders of the company, which I suppose is understandable. Bobsag when you went over there did you get to meet the whole team? Just curious cause generally when I spend a large amount on a purchase I like to have an Idea of at least one person who is associated or involved in the group.

Yup met the whole team. Pretty much the only thing they asked me not to post about was any paperwork laying around, and any direct faces.

[jerem2398]

Blackarrow did not want to reveal the founders of the company, which I suppose is understandable. Bobsag when you went over there did you get to meet the whole team? Just curious cause generally when I spend a large amount on a purchase I like to have an Idea of at least one person who is associated or involved in the group.

Yup met the whole team. Pretty much the only thing they asked me not to post about was any paperwork laying around, and any direct faces.

Oh cool! Glad to know.

[bobsag3]

Blackarrow did not want to reveal the founders of the company, which I suppose is understandable. Bobsag when you went over there did you get to meet the whole team? Just curious cause generally when I spend a large amount on a purchase I like to have an Idea of at least one person who is associated or involved in the group.

Yup met the whole team. Pretty much the only thing they asked me not to post about was any paperwork laying around, and any direct faces.

Oh cool! Glad to know.

I need to get a nice gallery page on my site, so everyone can see the pictures better

[sticky]

It would be interesting to hear if the recent PBOC rumours/FUD has affected the direct wires to Black Arrow? Obviously, bitcoin network to the rescue if there's any effect, but would that not still cause problems at Black Arrow's end? I doubt that their development and manufacturing costs are conducted in USD, so this is an interesting test of the actual impact of all of this (my expectation is that this will prove it all to be FUD, it makes little sense that Chinese state would have changed it's mind on bitcoin/cryptocurrency so abruptly after it spent alot of effort cultivating it with the Chinese public, it seems like it will be written off as a misunderstanding)

Whats PBOC/FUD? What are the rumors?

[bobsag3]

It would be interesting to hear if the recent PBOC rumours/FUD has affected the direct wires to Black Arrow? Obviously, bitcoin network to the rescue if there's any effect, but would that not still cause problems at Black Arrow's end? I doubt that their development and manufacturing costs are conducted in USD, so this is an interesting test of the actual impact of all of this (my expectation is that this will prove it all to be FUD, it makes little sense that Chinese state would have changed it's mind on bitcoin/cryptocurrency so abruptly after it spent alot of effort cultivating it with the Chinese public, it seems like it will be written off as a misunderstanding)

Whats PBOC/FUD? What are the rumors?

Actually the issues with their bank, as far as I understand, are from too many wires, nothing else. Weird problem to have...

[dracore]

Still waiting for minersource team and transferwise to sort out how to send/receive payment after a week...whoever recommended transferwise had not used them to do a wire transfer as for some reason they cannot use a wire transfer number but only aba electronic transfer numbers, do not bother using them until miner-source confirm they can receive payment from them....

Transferwise basically told us we would have to "try" a payment to see if it would even work. Their CS towards us was very unprofessional, if not outright insulting. They refused to provide a copy of their terms, stating "this email is more than enough legal proof if you need".

I'll speak to them again on the phone tomorrow and if they can't do a wire transfer then will ask them to re-fund me in full, can't have that amount of money sitting with them if they can't even do what they advertise! 

Can you explain what is happening here?  You did a wire transfer to minersource, but they are not able to confirm the transfer or something?

Curious because I have an order with them but I have yet to wire anything yet.....  hearing about potential wiring problems (but i'm not exactly sure of details)

[bobsag3]

Still waiting for minersource team and transferwise to sort out how to send/receive payment after a week...whoever recommended transferwise had not used them to do a wire transfer as for some reason they cannot use a wire transfer number but only aba electronic transfer numbers, do not bother using them until miner-source confirm they can receive payment from them....

Transferwise basically told us we would have to "try" a payment to see if it would even work. Their CS towards us was very unprofessional, if not outright insulting. They refused to provide a copy of their terms, stating "this email is more than enough legal proof if you need".

I'll speak to them again on the phone tomorrow and if they can't do a wire transfer then will ask them to re-fund me in full, can't have that amount of money sitting with them if they can't even do what they advertise! 

Can you explain what is happening here?  You did a wire transfer to minersource, but they are not able to confirm the transfer or something?

Curious because I have an order with them but I have yet to wire anything yet.....  hearing about potential wiring problems (but i'm not exactly sure of details)

No problems... just don't use transferwise.

[takagari]

Well what a pickle, it seems for the cost of this unit, it would mine roughly 12 coins before becoming usless. and at today's coin alue you could buy 12 coins for the same price...

I'm thinking either we need a new spike in BTC or miner's need to come down in price. All my investor's just pulled pin opting to buy BTC instead. as I couldnt promise more than 12 coins per machine return

[zurg]

Well, looks like I am pulling out from my 2nd X3.
1st one was 4.9 BTC, 2nd one would be 11.6 BTC
All because BA cannot answer their tickets in timely manner.

Now, why would I go further into becoming a Reseller if BA will hang me and my customers out to dry with any issues???
Last BA reply: 2 weeks 3 days.


From AR form:
"We have developed an Authorized Reseller program that will provide you and your customers with superior service and technical support second to none."

"Second to none" is that like based on TerraHash's and BFL's support?


Sorry, just very frustrated at this point.

Just out of curiosity, was it that hard to incorporate BitPay into the website?

[Cheshyr]

Still waiting for minersource team and transferwise to sort out how to send/receive payment after a week...whoever recommended transferwise had not used them to do a wire transfer as for some reason they cannot use a wire transfer number but only aba electronic transfer numbers, do not bother using them until miner-source confirm they can receive payment from them....

Transferwise basically told us we would have to "try" a payment to see if it would even work. Their CS towards us was very unprofessional, if not outright insulting. They refused to provide a copy of their terms, stating "this email is more than enough legal proof if you need".

I'll speak to them again on the phone tomorrow and if they can't do a wire transfer then will ask them to re-fund me in full, can't have that amount of money sitting with them if they can't even do what they advertise! 

Can you explain what is happening here?  You did a wire transfer to minersource, but they are not able to confirm the transfer or something?

Curious because I have an order with them but I have yet to wire anything yet.....  hearing about potential wiring problems (but i'm not exactly sure of details)

Amusingly enough, bank wires still have a manual component to them at many banks.  In some cases, accounts are limited to certain number of wires a day, or a month.  If an account suddenly starts receiving numerous large wires, that could trigger fraud alerts as well...  Lots of ways things could get bogged down in bureaucracy. 

[takagari]

Well what a pickle, it seems for the cost of this unit, it would mine roughly 12 coins before becoming usless. and at today's coin alue you could buy 12 coins for the same price...

I'm thinking either we need a new spike in BTC or miner's need to come down in price. All my investor's just pulled pin opting to buy BTC instead. as I couldnt promise more than 12 coins per machine return

Well there hasnt been any word on whether orders can be transferred, but if confirmed they can be, and if anyone wants out and just wants their btc back I will pay them their btc that they put in for X-1's only at this time?

If anyone is getting cold feet that is...

Eh, not cold feet. But math.
Calculator's project only a return of 12ish bitcoins. At the current rate your spending 10 on the machine. So your investing waiting and hoping to making maybe 2 coins.

My investor's backed out. so instead of 3 machine's coming here. I'll likely bu a few X-1's and be done with it. Not worth the risk over 2 coins for most people!