Hi, guys, I (NAKOWA) was beaten. Lost 5k BTC in two days (Still UP).

[integrity42]

Dooglus is putting the max bet back to 200BTC in a few hours... 

But nobody wants you to play there anymore because you are such a complainer and fraud. 

Go play at satoshidice 1.9% edge.

How much did you lose because of nakowa?

You forgot to click the ignore button.

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[horsea]

Dooglus is putting the max bet back to 200BTC in a few hours... 

But nobody wants you to play there anymore because you are such a complainer and fraud. 

Go play at satoshidice 1.9% edge.

How much did you lose because of nakowa?

You forgot to click the ignore button.

Will do! Sir!

[dooglus]

Doog still failed to prove he didn't change anything other than max profit.

I have offered to help you understand the proof twice now, but you fail to respond.

Which part are you having trouble understanding?  I'm quite patient and should be able to help you see how it works.

[Rampion]

what should Dooglus do to "unfix" you, so you can keep exploiting this yet unfixed flaw in J-D?

Were you me, what would you do?

I couldn't be you because I believe J-D is legit and sha256 has no known flaws, and finally I know the odds are against you, and unless you cheat you cannot *beat* the odds in the long run, you can just get lucky in the short/mid term.

But, let's say I'm you, and I believe there is a flaw in JD that allows me to "spot patterns" and thus beat the house in the long run. Let's say I know the exploit is still there, but Dooglus "fixed" me in some other way.

I would just ask Dooglus to "unfix" me, so I can prove everybody I can destroy the house. In this case "Nakowa" would have written a page in history.

So: how do we "unfix" you, Nakowa? Many investors might support your cause and ask Dooglus.

[integrity42]

Dooglus,  Nakowa is trolling you.  Don't feed the troll. 

Keep calm and carry on. 

[allover]

I'm saying: if Doog fixed the exploit I used, which he still didn't, (he just fixed me, directly) and let mathematics run the casino, I would go bankrupted if I play long enough.

If you don't tell me the real exploit, I can't fix it.

You have told me two different stories about how you win:

1) "the min and max are too far apart; that allows me to 'create variance'"

I fixed that by decreasing the gap between min and max.  For all players.

2) "WLWL is the most common sequence; exploit that 'fact'"

WLWL isn't the most common sequence, so there's nothing to fix.

Now you're telling me that the real exploit is neither of the two things you previously told me it was.

So, now you want me to tell you for nothing? After you being UNFAIR to me so many times?

1. Doog, you have the data, please check it, and tell them this is close to true:

No one could have that LUCK, used 700 bankroll (the maximum down I had), up to at most 16000.

2. Doog, please send me the log of JD's chat room of recent three days, so that I can "quote" you.

[allover]

what should Dooglus do to "unfix" you, so you can keep exploiting this yet unfixed flaw in J-D?

Were you me, what would you do?

I couldn't be you because I believe J-D is legit and sha256 has no known flaws, and finally I know the odds are against you, and unless you cheat you cannot *beat* the odds in the long run, you can just get lucky in the short/mid term.

But, let's say I'm you, and I believe there is a flaw in JD that allows me to "spot patterns" and thus beat the house in the long run. Let's say I know the exploit is still there, but Dooglus "fixed" me in some other way.

I would just ask Dooglus to "unfix" me, so I can prove everybody I can destroy the house. In this case "Nakowa" would have written a page in history.

So: how do we "unfix" you, Nakowa? Many investors might support your cause and ask Dooglus.

TO RAMPION:
I'm not quite good at thinking about unrealistic situations, and your unfix is not realistic. (Returning my last 2000BTC? I don't think you and JD investors are willing to do this.)

Doog still failed to prove he didn't change anything other than max profit.

I have offered to help you understand the proof twice now, but you fail to respond.

Which part are you having trouble understanding?  I'm quite patient and should be able to help you see how it works.

TO DOOGLUS:
I said in the previous post:

It's suspecious about lagging, not "provably fair". With the same algorithm, the game could simply ignore the previous winning result, and place another bet (win or lose, doesn't matter, equivalent to raise the house edge two folds higher), and give the player a tremendous hit, especially when betsize is large. Don't know whether I've made myself clear.

You didn't answer anything about this.

[Rampion]

I'm not quite good at thinking about unrealistic situations, and your unfix is not realistic. (Returning my last 2000BTC? I don't think you and JD investors are willing to do this.)

I never proposed that - it was Peter R who did. I just ask you how did Dooglus "fixed" you (without fixing the alleged exploit), so we can ask him to "unfix" you.

In the meanwhile, the bankroll skyrocketed to 45k - max profit will be soon at 0.5%, meaning you will be able to bet up to 225BTC using your usual 2x type of bet. Big enough for you to do your thing, Nako?

[integrity42]

Nakowa go away. You are a fraud.  Your accusations against dooglus are a joke.

Take your money and leave.  We changed the max bet because we don't want you to play at justdice anymore.

Now Dooglus is putting the max bet back to 200+BTC, but it is not for you.

Go play at SatoshiDice 1.9% edge.

[opusdigitus]

You once claimed to be emotionless in the trollbox.  For having no emotions, you are one whiny little bitch. 

[mechs]

Either Nakowa is:
1. Trolling
2. Playing dumb
3. Truly dumb
4. There is a language barrier

I honestly do not know which one it is

[integrity42]

Seems like 1 through 4.

Either way, I hope he doesn't come back when max bet is back to 230BTC in a few hours.

[mechs]

Seems like 1 through 4.

Either way, I hope he doesn't come back when max bet is back to 230BTC in a few hours.

English definitely does not seem to be his native language based on his grammar.  He will come back when he seems someone else win big and then think he can do better. I actually am concerned with investment way up and the max bet approaching 250, he can cause a lot of damage with variance on his side again.

[Rampion]

Seems like 1 through 4.

Either way, I hope he doesn't come back when max bet is back to 230BTC in a few hours.

Are you trying to use reverse psychology? Its too obvious to be true

[integrity42]

No.

If he's going to call doog a cheater, he should not play at just-dice. very simple.  hes a fraud.

[mechs]

Seems like 1 through 4.

Either way, I hope he doesn't come back when max bet is back to 230BTC in a few hours.

Are you trying to use reverse psychology? Its too obvious to be true

There is no need, he will eventually play again.  Just a matter of when.

[integrity42]

No.

He's not allowed to play again.  Are you reading this Nakowa?  Stay away from just-dice. we raised the limit to 230BTC for other whales. not for you.

[CBitz]

I do have a stetegy, but not the kind with gambler's fallacy. JD's game has an exploit, by which I could easily create large variation. I've talked about that before, but no body believes me. And then, I proved by actions, won again and again, reaped the whole profit, until I was beaten by Doog changing rules. Believe it or not, if I was not UNFAIRLY trapped, I might well win more.

However, most people here tend to believe they truly are masters of Mathematics, with biased wishful thinking. No one could have that LUCK, used 700 bankroll (the maximum down I had), up to at most 16000. That's not luck, that's only because JD has something wrong. I'm reluctant to elaborate what's the exploit. I have no obligation to do so.



On the one hand: I agree the game has an exploit he has found, and I find it odd that there are so many intelligent people on here just continuously saying it's luck. It would have been luck if he won once or twice, but he showed he could win continuously over an extended period of time.

On the other hand: He should be reluctant to elaborate on the exploit since he's part of a competing business and that favors him, but that fact also makes you wonder why he still isn't playing. Reducing the max bet doesn't change strategy or eliminate the exploit ... it just causes it to take more time to bleed the house dry. Regardless if your mad the rules were changed, most people would still be playing if they could basically print money.

[integrity42]

I do have a stetegy, but not the kind with gambler's fallacy. JD's game has an exploit, by which I could easily create large variation. I've talked about that before, but no body believes me. And then, I proved by actions, won again and again, reaped the whole profit, until I was beaten by Doog changing rules. Believe it or not, if I was not UNFAIRLY trapped, I might well win more.

However, most people here tend to believe they truly are masters of Mathematics, with biased wishful thinking. No one could have that LUCK, used 700 bankroll (the maximum down I had), up to at most 16000. That's not luck, that's only because JD has something wrong. I'm reluctant to elaborate what's the exploit. I have no obligation to do so.



On the one hand: I agree the game has an exploit he has found, and I find it odd that there are so many intelligent people on here just continuously saying it's luck. It would have been luck if he won once or twice, but he showed he could win continuously over an extended period of time.

On the other hand: He should be reluctant to elaborate on the exploit since he's part of a competing business and that favors him, but that fact also makes you wonder why he still isn't playing. Reducing the max bet doesn't change strategy or eliminate the exploit ... it just causes it to take more time to bleed the house dry. Regardless if your mad the rules were changed, most people would still be playing if they could basically print money.

The investment on the site is back at 45,000BTC... dooglus is raising the max profit to 230BTC in a few hours.

Nobody cares about your useless posts.  Since you started posting, just-dice investment went from 30,000BTC to 45,000BTC.... Just-dice won back 5,500BTC and is now positive.  Obviously nobody believes you and they trust dooglus. 

Meanwhile your plan to lie about dooglus just to promote your own site (letsdice) is failing.  Everyone is playing at just-dice. Nobody is playing at letsdice, nobody plays at any of the other dice sites.  Your attempt to tell people that dooglus is a cheater is a scam and you are fraud.

Nobody cares about your useless posts. Take your money and go away and never play on just-dice again. You are a fraud.

[wachtwoord]

However, most people here tend to believe they truly are masters of Mathematics, with biased wishful thinking. No one could have that LUCK, used 700 bankroll (the maximum down I had), up to at most 16000. That's not luck, that's only because JD has something wrong. I'm reluctant to elaborate what's the exploit. I have no obligation to do so.

Someone showed the probability was a little over 2%. That's 1 in 50. Improbable things do happen. The happen quite frequently, it's called the law of large numbers

But I honestly hope Dooglus puts everything back and you play on. I have been known to be wrong on occasion.