Hi, guys, I (NAKOWA) was beaten. Lost 5k BTC in two days (Still UP).

[towtoad]

1. Creating dozens of accounts won't help me, and I've already done that. You just missed the point.
2. I AM WEALTHY, before I won 11k from JD.
3. There's no REVENGE. I don't hate Doog or JD. I'm still considering whether I should invest JD, since JD now is a very effective whale-hunter.

The site is back like you were never there. Already positive profit, and 200+BTC max profit.

Everybody trusts dooglus, so nobody is paying attention to your fraud accusations about him.

Maybe you should admit you are wrong and apologize?

Dooglus apologized, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303852.0.

Let's put an end on this.

[broolstoryco]

1. Creating dozens of accounts won't help me, and I've already done that. You just missed the point.
2. I AM WEALTHY, before I won 11k from JD.
3. There's no REVENGE. I don't hate Doog or JD. I'm still considering whether I should invest JD, since JD now is a very effective whale-hunter.

The site is back like you were never there. Already positive profit, and 200+BTC max profit.

Everybody trusts dooglus, so nobody is paying attention to your fraud accusations about him.

Maybe you should admit you are wrong and apologize?

Dooglus apologized, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303852.0.

Let's put an end on this.

come to JD and roll a few times, just to show there arent any hard feelings

[marcovaldo]

JD profit is now up Mouahahahah

[broolstoryco]

JD profit is now up Mouahahahah

so much for his 'exploit'

[mechs]

don't poke the bear

[broolstoryco]

don't poke the bear

i would love it if he came back

[marcovaldo]

He might be able to take all the profit

[Rampion]

He might be able to take all the profit

Yeah well, the "profit" is only for the guys who just invested, older investors certainly aren't at a profit.
So they took the risks and aren't going to see most of the profits because the investment is now much higher.
Great.

Well, I guess this is the origin of the "investors turmoil" when max profit was taken to 1/4 Kelly. Those of us who never had any doubt about "math working", and also about Nakowa coming back over and over, didn't divest, so we were hit by the big losses while we waited for math and gamblers psychology to their thing. When max profit was taken down to 0,25%, the only way to *try* to recoup quickly that losses was to multiply by four our original investment.

I did so and it worked well, but anyhow it sucks because we were forced to either a) commit four-fold the amounts of coins we were investing in the first place, or b) to stick with huge losses for long.

[RationalSpeculator]

He might be able to take all the profit

Yeah well, the "profit" is only for the guys who just invested, older investors certainly aren't at a profit.
So they took the risks and aren't going to see most of the profits because the investment is now much higher.
Great.

If you divest when it's up a few k, and invest when it's down a few k, you will have higher returns than the average and make up your loss. This because when it is up a few k there are more investors and less to earn, whereas when it is down a few k there are less investors and hence more returns on your capital. Basically do the inverse of what the greedy/scared investor does.

[Sterling]

If you divest when it's up a few k, and invest when it's down a few k, you will have higher returns than the average and make up your loss. This because when it is up a few k there are more investors and less to earn, whereas when it is down a few k there are less investors and hence more returns on your capital. Basically do the inverse of what the greedy/scared investor does.

That's illogical.

When the site is down, and there are fewer investors, you get higher returns and losses.

[RationalSpeculator]

If you divest when it's up a few k, and invest when it's down a few k, you will have higher returns than the average and make up your loss. This because when it is up a few k there are more investors and less to earn, whereas when it is down a few k there are less investors and hence more returns on your capital. Basically do the inverse of what the greedy/scared investor does.

That's illogical.

When the site is down, and there are fewer investors, you get higher returns and losses.

Sure losses are higher too when there is less invested capital and you have a higher percentage of bankroll.

But since on average house edge makes 1%, it makes on average profit.

And when house has made a loss, I think the turnover of gambling goes mostly up due to gamblers getting courageous, while the amount of investors goes mostly down due to them getting scared, so an investment gets more bang for it's buck so to speak. You get a larger % of the bankroll and there is more turnover on it. So on average you make more money then.

I'm not talking about the investor's fallacy, indeed chances for house to go up or down are the same when house is in profit or at loss.

Am I making sense or does it look still illogical to you?

[Sterling]

you will have higher returns than the average and make up your loss.

This is the part I don't get. It doesn't matter when you invest, whether the profit is up or down, or what kind of bets are being made, your chance of winning/losing remain the same (minus the 1% edge).

[RationalSpeculator]

you will have higher returns than the average and make up your loss.

This is the part I don't get. It doesn't matter when you invest, whether the profit is up or down, or what kind of bets are being made, your chance of winning/losing remain the same (minus the 1% edge).

You are right, that part is not true.

It's not because you will have higher returns than the average investor that you will make up your loss.

[bitcoin44me]

I don't see your point.
You say that because current profit (-3k) is low, it should increase in the future?

[madonnino]

what a story, incredible 

[98problems]

what a story, incredible 

you dug a 2 year old thread just to say that its impressive story? seriously? whats the point?

[AltcoinRambo]

I think this is actually appropriate for the occasion!

[micky123]

what a story, incredible 

you dug a 2 year old thread just to say that its impressive story? seriously? whats the point?

Lol i was wondering where this thread came from! Well... looks like post padding to me to build up post count for his signature campaign . Don't Mods have to lock threads and archive them if they are more than a year old and no bumps or activity?

[madonnino]

what a story, incredible 

you dug a 2 year old thread just to say that its impressive story? seriously? whats the point?

the point is: remember gamblers, you can have a super bankroll, and lost all

if u don't like this we can cancel the post, and stop

[GrandmaJean]

what a story, incredible 

you dug a 2 year old thread just to say that its impressive story? seriously? whats the point?

the point is: remember gamblers, you can have a super bankroll, and lost all

if u don't like this we can cancel the post, and stop

if we will remember gamblers that loose much money people will stop gambling and there wont be any gambling sites